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UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:11 AM Jul 2021

A judge told a Capitol riot suspect to get rid of his guns. The feds say he bought 34 more.

Source: Insider via Yahoo

Federal prosecutors say an ex-cop and Capitol riot suspect violated his pre-trial release conditions by buying 34 guns, and possessing a loaded M4 carbine and partially assembled pipe bomb at his home, according to court documents.

Thomas Robertson, ex-officer of the Rocky Mount Police Department in Virginia, is one of the 545 people that have been arrested and charged in connection to the January 6 insurrection so far. The Washington Post was first to report the latest court filing.

Robertson, who faces four federal charges, was released from jail in January. A judge agreed to release him pending trial, but one of the conditions was that he "refrain from possessing a firearm, destructive device, or other dangerous weapon," court documents said.

But just four days after Robertson's release, authorities discovered eight firearms, including a Hawken Rifle and Smith and Wesson, at his Virginia residence, according to a motion to revoke Robertson's release order.

… snip …

The FBI also searched Robertson's home and "not only found evidence that Robertson had amassed an arsenal of 34 firearms through a local [Federal Firearms License] in Roanoke, but agents also found a loaded M4 rifle, ammunition, and a partially assembled pipe bomb in Robertson's home."

Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/judge-told-capitol-riot-suspect-035333674.html

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A judge told a Capitol riot suspect to get rid of his guns. The feds say he bought 34 more. (Original Post) UpInArms Jul 2021 OP
hope hes in jail right now . AllaN01Bear Jul 2021 #1
Where do these freaks get their money for all these guns? pwb Jul 2021 #2
No Kidding Lemon Lyman Jul 2021 #5
My best guess he was buying and reselling them. Scruffy1 Jul 2021 #15
I saw a report he hadn't picked them up from a dealer.... getagrip_already Jul 2021 #20
That's what I was thinking. Even at 400 bucks each, that's over 13K Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #18
Was he regaled on his own reconnaissance? Dream Girl Jul 2021 #3
Insurrectionists sure are an angry lot bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #4
Obviously does not think the law applies to him Mysterian Jul 2021 #6
Just Lock His Sorry Ass Up....and then give him the bill.....seriously turbinetree Jul 2021 #7
" discovered eight firearms, including a Hawken Rifle " oneshooter Jul 2021 #8
It's not a clip twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #9
And a Hawken has neither. marble falls Jul 2021 #10
Thanks. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #27
A muzzle loader is a firearm Mysterian Jul 2021 #11
It's quite lethal none the less. comradebillyboy Jul 2021 #12
Verily, I say to thee, the dumb and stupid, will be with you, even until the end of the world irisblue Jul 2021 #13
No OldBaldy1701E Jul 2021 #34
re: m4 rifle AllaN01Bear Jul 2021 #14
these types llashram Jul 2021 #16
I agree. Blue_true Jul 2021 #24
Come September Tomconroy Jul 2021 #17
I don't want the 'fear' of god in them OldBaldy1701E Jul 2021 #35
He can only shoot one at a time bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #19
When I see those people with piles of guns, my thoughts are like yours. Blue_true Jul 2021 #25
Usually that kind of stockpiling YMB Jul 2021 #29
The guy could possibly be collecting SOME of the guns, the muzzle-loader Blue_true Jul 2021 #30
An AR could also fall into that camp. YMB Jul 2021 #33
34 firearms is a powerful lot of compensation. malthaussen Jul 2021 #21
Sure of 1 Thing: This Idiot was sure he was going to get away with it, & no consequences ever! Stuart G Jul 2021 #22
They don't call'em ,,,, Cryptoad Jul 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Jul 2021 #26
When do we start prosecuting these fools quakerboy Jul 2021 #28
We could use him to fight the brush fires in California. Flash953 Jul 2021 #31
You would recognize seeing him in this photo, pointing at the other officer flipping a finger: Judi Lynn Jul 2021 #32
Wonder if the pipe bombs match? Kid Berwyn Jul 2021 #36

pwb

(11,246 posts)
2. Where do these freaks get their money for all these guns?
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:20 AM
Jul 2021

Spending disposable income on guns is beyond average Americans. Maybe he took out a loan for them.

Scruffy1

(3,252 posts)
15. My best guess he was buying and reselling them.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jul 2021

According to the article he purchased 34 guns and the search found eight. If this is the case he might be up for illegal gun sales.

getagrip_already

(14,618 posts)
20. I saw a report he hadn't picked them up from a dealer....
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:26 PM
Jul 2021

The dealer was holding them. He bought them through gun web sites and had them shipped to a licensed dealer. He could have picked any up at any time though.

That's the fallacy of these orders. You can't have them in your posession, but you still have ready access to them.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
3. Was he regaled on his own reconnaissance?
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:22 AM
Jul 2021

Nice going. They give these assholes every benefit of the doubt. If a 14 year old black kid jumps the subway turnstiles they’re sent to River Islands to await trial. Hey judes, just pretend all these insurrectionist guys are black!

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
7. Just Lock His Sorry Ass Up....and then give him the bill.....seriously
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:43 AM
Jul 2021

the dumb fucker doesn't realize that at his former job, he swore to defend and protect the Constitution and all applicable state and federal laws....and when a judge said you can't have guns, well rule number 1 while under indictment listen to said judge....

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
8. " discovered eight firearms, including a Hawken Rifle "
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:55 AM
Jul 2021

A "Hawken rifle" is a muzzle loader. Not even considered a firearm by Federal law.

irisblue

(32,929 posts)
13. Verily, I say to thee, the dumb and stupid, will be with you, even until the end of the world
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:10 AM
Jul 2021

Book of irisblue, chapter 5, verse 7
He thought the FBI would not be up in his business?

OldBaldy1701E

(5,088 posts)
34. No
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 07:45 AM
Jul 2021

He thought he was in the 'right'. (Brainwashed nonetheless). He thought that Emperor Trump would praise him and all the other 'patriots', and they would become heroes.

Basically, he proved that he cannot think...

AllaN01Bear

(17,987 posts)
14. re: m4 rifle
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:34 AM
Jul 2021

As a civilian, you may not legally own an M4 anywhere in the US, unless you are a licensed machine gun dealer. Only those fully automatic firearms that were already registered with the BATFE by May 1986 CAN be transferred (legally) to a private citizen. And the M4 was not created until AFTER May 1986 (1994). looked at the price of the m4 carbine and they aint cheep. 36 guns , yeah i hope they revolked his release priveleges .

llashram

(6,265 posts)
16. these types
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:52 AM
Jul 2021

mean business and in spite of the numbers they have, they will learn the easy way or the hard way, millions of US mean business also. The Confederacy, white nationalist paradise is a DEAD FANTASY!!! Never happen. And that's the fact.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. I agree.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:12 PM
Jul 2021

Those people seem to live under the delusion that the rest of society is just going to lay down if they become really violent. They are total fools and have no clue of what civil war looks and feels like. To them, they can start a civil war and them continue to go out for their fast food. Foolish assholes.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
17. Come September
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:59 AM
Jul 2021

They need to start trials for these people. A lot of trials. Put the fear of God into them.
They're probably going to need more judges.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. When I see those people with piles of guns, my thoughts are like yours.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:17 PM
Jul 2021

They can only shoot one gun at a time and be accurate, so are they planning to raise an army for the rest of the guns? What happens when they run out of ammo? What happens when adversaries come after them with lethal stuff that a gun can’t deal with?

 

YMB

(63 posts)
29. Usually that kind of stockpiling
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 06:22 PM
Jul 2021

Is for arming others and used as replacements such as being told to turn in or having your weapons confiscated while having a dozen more barried somewhere that they can turn to after wards. I'm sure ammo goes along with that especially when you have that kind of money to spend on that amount of guns. AR's and AK's tend to fair pretty well against police forces which tend to be the strong arm of oppressive governments against their own people. Assuming of course that that hypothetical is why they bought that many guns. Or maybe he's just a collector.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
30. The guy could possibly be collecting SOME of the guns, the muzzle-loader
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 07:17 PM
Jul 2021

fall into that category.

I am generally very concerned about people that stockpile guns to “stand” against police, even in cases where police departments are sorely in need of reform. Honestly, anyone who thinks that he or she can succeed in such effort outside of outright civil war is a fool, the person is quickly going to get outgunned and highly likely killed.

 

YMB

(63 posts)
33. An AR could also fall into that camp.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 01:56 AM
Jul 2021

It just depends on what those other firearms are. 25 of them being AR's and AK's sends a bigger red flag than maybe 2 or 3. They mention an "m4", but nothing else of which I tend to question the validity of that in most cases(though he is an ex-cop so maybe a little more likely). I'd be more worried about the partially assembled pipe bomb which shows greater intention than the arsenal.

If you ever talked to those types that have that level of disdain for cops it's not about "surviving" but rather taking as many of those involved with the system with them as possible. There really isn't much dilution of overthrowing the system and riding off into the sunset. At most they want a conflict to send a message and get people questioning the system of which there has been a greater influx of that these past few years. To a lot of them it's about their rights being violated which they feel are worth dying over.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
22. Sure of 1 Thing: This Idiot was sure he was going to get away with it, & no consequences ever!
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:42 PM
Jul 2021

Now this idiot has consequences that he never thought about...

Response to UpInArms (Original post)

quakerboy

(13,916 posts)
28. When do we start prosecuting these fools
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:12 PM
Jul 2021

for terrorism?

We can apply it to pipeline protestors. Why not actual terrorists?

Flash953

(85 posts)
31. We could use him to fight the brush fires in California.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 07:35 PM
Jul 2021

So far the fire season hasnt been that bad but we could use more cheap labor.

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
32. You would recognize seeing him in this photo, pointing at the other officer flipping a finger:
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 08:33 PM
Jul 2021


Just two public servants.
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