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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,427 posts)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 07:40 AM Jul 2021

Wreckage from TWA Flight 800 to be destroyed 25 years after crash

Source: Washington Post

Transportation

Wreckage from TWA Flight 800 to be destroyed 25 years after crash

The jetliner was decommissioned this month and will be destroyed by the end of the year. The crash left 230 people dead.

For more than 20 years, the National Transportation Safety Board has kept a portion of the rebuilt Boeing 747 at its training center in Ashburn. This year it will destroy the plane. (John McDonnell/The Washington Post)



By Lori Aratani
Today at 6:00 a.m. EDT

For nearly 20 years, a haunting relic of one of the worst aviation disasters in U.S. history has been tucked away in a cavernous warehouse in Northern Virginia.

The fuselage of the Boeing 747, painstakingly reassembled from nearly 1,600 pieces plucked from the depths of the Atlantic Ocean, is a macabre jigsaw puzzle of wires and burned, twisted metal. But it is all that remains of Trans World Airline Flight 800, the Paris-bound jetliner that crashed shortly after takeoff from New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport 25 years ago Saturday killing all 230 people onboard.

The crash made headlines for years, the tragedy of the loss compounded by suspicions the plane may have been the target of a terrorist attack. Ultimately, after a four-year investigation, the National Transportation Safety Board concluded the cause was an explosion in the plane’s center fuel tank, the result of a flammable mix of fuel and air ignited by a spark. (1)

[Missile ruled out in TWA 800 crash] (2)

The NTSB is set to close another chapter in the story of TWA 800. The downed jetliner, one of a handful recovered and reconstructed, was decommissioned this month and will be destroyed by the end of the year.

Since 2003, when the wreckage was moved from New York to the agency’s training center in Ashburn, it has been used to help first responders and transportation safety investigators. But advances in technology for investigating crashes — coupled with the end of the lease on the hangar-like space where the 93-foot-long, 60,000-pound reconstructed hulk is housed — led the NTSB to conclude it is no longer practical to maintain.

{snip}

By Lori Aratani
Lori Aratani writes about transportation issues, including how people get around -- or don't. Her beat includes airlines and airports, as well as the agencies that oversee them. Twitter https://twitter.com/loriara

(1) https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2000/08/23/missile-ruled-out-in-twa-crash/4e50dd35-525c-49e7-8233-ab7566b55c23/

(2) https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2000/08/23/missile-ruled-out-in-twa-crash/4e50dd35-525c-49e7-8233-ab7566b55c23/

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2021/07/16/twa-flight-800-crash-anniversary/



I guess it's not the sort of thing you'd want in a museum.

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Wreckage from TWA Flight 800 to be destroyed 25 years after crash


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Wreckage from TWA Flight 800 to be destroyed 25 years after crash (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 OP
USA Today link here. Says NTSB used it for training, but lease is up. apnu Jul 2021 #1
Why not recycle it? Throck Jul 2021 #2
See my link above. apnu Jul 2021 #4
It crashed July 17. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #3
If you think that's an odd coincidence, get a load of this: Polybius Jul 2021 #25
I knew there was another one but had forgotten exactly what it was. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #26
Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #5
Are you sure you're in the right forum, "FRiend" ? Tarc Jul 2021 #6
Gotcha! Worried2020 Jul 2021 #7
I think it's one of the few things that is monument worthy. CSA personality cult figures aren't ... marble falls Jul 2021 #8
Oh please, do tell me about the mascot names being changed obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #9
Did anyone else find it odd... appmanga Jul 2021 #10
I had a neighbor BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #11
I Wish RobinA Jul 2021 #12
They did...frayed wires causing a short over central fuel tank EX500rider Jul 2021 #18
I'm just going to say that the NTSB's official hypothesis for the explosion... LudwigPastorius Jul 2021 #13
The flaw in the missile theory hack89 Jul 2021 #14
It could have been a one in a million shot from a shoulder launched missile Polybius Jul 2021 #16
Three problems with that hack89 Jul 2021 #17
Takes a much bigger missile to cause a immediate inflight breakup, esp of a 747 EX500rider Jul 2021 #19
having been on an airplane that once lost cabin pressure imavoter Jul 2021 #23
Brian Williams was on air the night of the disaster. BigmanPigman Jul 2021 #15
Brings back shitty memories PlanetBev Jul 2021 #20
a high school friend was on that plane... RicROC Jul 2021 #21
Jazz saxophonist Wayne Shorter's wife and niece were on that flight. LudwigPastorius Jul 2021 #22
Video: TWA Flight 800 wreckage teaches lessons 25 years after tragedy - ABC News Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #24

apnu

(8,756 posts)
1. USA Today link here. Says NTSB used it for training, but lease is up.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 07:46 AM
Jul 2021
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/07/07/twa-flight-800-crash-anniversary-wreckage-video-photos/7890463002/

The NTSB’s lease on the warehouse and its adjoining classrooms is expiring. So the fuselage, which had been used as a training tool for NTSB aviation crash investigators, had to go, too.

Relatives of victims are currently being told they can take a final peek in the coming weeks at the jetliner’s remains. But so far only a handful have requested a final goodbye.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
4. See my link above.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 08:13 AM
Jul 2021

NTSB used it for training. But their lease is up and they have nowhere to take it.

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
25. If you think that's an odd coincidence, get a load of this:
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jul 2021

Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17) was a scheduled passenger flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur that was shot down on 17 July 2014 while flying over eastern Ukraine. All 283 passengers and 15 crew were killed.

Shot down exactly 18 years after Flight 800.

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
6. Are you sure you're in the right forum, "FRiend" ?
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 08:25 AM
Jul 2021

Yes, we topple statues erected by the Daughters of the Confederacy less than a century ago, as they attempted to prop up the racist "Lost Cause" narrative.

Yes, we demand sports teams stop using racist names, the majority of which derive from Native American stereotypes.

And so on.

This is a plane that crashed. Tragic, but not monument-worthy.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
8. I think it's one of the few things that is monument worthy. CSA personality cult figures aren't ...
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 08:36 AM
Jul 2021

... of even worthy of being boat anchors.

appmanga

(571 posts)
10. Did anyone else find it odd...
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 10:44 AM
Jul 2021

...this aircraft was just "decommissioned"? I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I wouldn't have expected that term to be associated with this aircraft.

BumRushDaShow

(128,911 posts)
11. I had a neighbor
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 12:18 PM
Jul 2021

who literally lived 1 block from us, and who was on that flight. Me and my sisters used to play with his kids when we were younger.

I didn't realize they still had the reconstructed fuselage in storage but I can see how the end of the lease for the space would prompt what would be a hard decision. But then the tweet does mention others that the NTSB still have for training so...

LudwigPastorius

(9,139 posts)
13. I'm just going to say that the NTSB's official hypothesis for the explosion...
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jul 2021

seemed weird to me, given that big airliners had been flying around with near-empty center tanks for almost 40 years with no other similar mid-air explosion ever occurring.

The multiple witnesses who saw something streaking up from the water before the explosion also give me pause.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
14. The flaw in the missile theory
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 02:07 PM
Jul 2021

is that only the US Navy has the capability to shoot down an aircraft that high. And there were no navy ships in the area. And if it was a US Navy ship, how do you keep 350 sailors quiet?

Besides, if it was hit by a missile, why is there no evidence of a warhead detonation?

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
16. It could have been a one in a million shot from a shoulder launched missile
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 02:58 PM
Jul 2021

As someone who never believes any conspiracies, this one has always intrigued me.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
17. Three problems with that
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 03:24 PM
Jul 2021

First, it is well beyond the range of a Stinger. Secondly, a MANPAD is such a small missile with such a small rocket motor that it would not have been visible at that height and distance. Remember that the motor burns out quickly and it would be coasting for most of the flight - there would not have been a visible streak of light. And finally, they are heat seeking with very small warheads. At best it would have destroyed one engine- a 747 can fly fine with 2, much less 3.

EX500rider

(10,842 posts)
19. Takes a much bigger missile to cause a immediate inflight breakup, esp of a 747
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 05:33 PM
Jul 2021

MANPADS (ie Man-portable air-defense systems or shoulder launched missiles) are heat seeking and would have gone for one of the engines and knocked one of them out but a inflight break up would be extremely unlikely, especially right away with no time for a Mayday.
Plus 15,000ft is beyond the slant range for manpads.
Looking thru the wikki on civilian planes shot down by manpads, looks like a Tupolev Tu-154 is the biggest that was caused to crash but it was on approach and had survivors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-portable_air-defense_system

imavoter

(646 posts)
23. having been on an airplane that once lost cabin pressure
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 12:00 AM
Jul 2021

it is easy for me to believe that a spark and fumes caused the crash.

Shit happens. At least I'm here to tell about it.
I feel for the families.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
15. Brian Williams was on air the night of the disaster.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 02:36 PM
Jul 2021

It is the 25th anniversary of MSNBC and back then the graphic dept was not up and going so they used a regular map from a guy's car to show where the explosion occurred.

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
20. Brings back shitty memories
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 05:52 PM
Jul 2021

I was working at a synagogue in Los Angeles at that time. An entire family named Silverman who were members were killed. Gene, Etta, Candace and Jamie. It haunted me for a long time. Always reminds me how unpredictable life is.

RicROC

(1,204 posts)
21. a high school friend was on that plane...
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:02 PM
Jul 2021

along with most of her family. Only the father and a brother not on board remain from that family. Not too long ago I saw their names on gravestones at the local cemetery.

LudwigPastorius

(9,139 posts)
22. Jazz saxophonist Wayne Shorter's wife and niece were on that flight.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 11:13 PM
Jul 2021

They were going to Italy to meet up with him while he was on tour.

Here's a cover version of a song he wrote for her.

Rhiannon12866

(205,315 posts)
24. Video: TWA Flight 800 wreckage teaches lessons 25 years after tragedy - ABC News
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 06:13 AM
Jul 2021


ABC News’ Gio Benitez reports on the 25th anniversary of the explosion of TWA Flight 800, and takes a look at the way investigators have utilized the wreckage as a training tool for two decades.


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