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Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:04 AM

McConnell says no Republicans will vote to raise debt ceiling

Source: CNN

Republicans will not vote to increase the debt ceiling, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said in a new interview, putting additional political pressure on Democrats in the coming weeks.

"I can't imagine there will be a single Republican voting to raise the debt ceiling after what we've been experiencing," McConnell said in an interview with Punchbowl News published Wednesday.

Democrats could include the debt ceiling increase in their budget reconciliation bill currently being debated, multiple sources tell CNN. But the more likely scenario is that Democrats could tie the debt ceiling to a must-pass funding bill at the end of September, which would force Republicans to decide if they'd want to vote to default and shut down the government at the same time. The Treasury Department has several methods available to delay the effects of the debt ceiling limit until the fall, as the fiscal year ends on September 30.

If Democrats did include the debt ceiling increase in reconciliation, lawmakers would need to choose what the new borrowing limit should be in the legislation given the special budget rules.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/21/politics/mitch-mcconnell-debt-ceiling-republicans-democrats-reconciliation/index.html



Figures.

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Reply McConnell says no Republicans will vote to raise debt ceiling (Original post)
Zorro Jul 21 OP
Midnight Writer Jul 21 #1
EndlessWire Jul 21 #8
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 21 #36
rickyhall Jul 21 #40
sinkingfeeling Jul 21 #2
roamer65 Jul 21 #3
BlueIdaho Jul 21 #4
lsewpershad Jul 21 #5
Bleacher Creature Jul 21 #6
FBaggins Jul 21 #12
BumRushDaShow Jul 21 #18
FBaggins Jul 21 #19
BumRushDaShow Jul 21 #23
FBaggins Jul 21 #20
Salviati Jul 21 #46
FBaggins Jul 21 #51
Bernardo de La Paz Jul 21 #7
sakabatou Jul 21 #9
RussBLib Jul 21 #13
elleng Jul 21 #10
elleng Jul 21 #11
FSogol Jul 21 #14
BumRushDaShow Jul 21 #15
Calista241 Jul 21 #16
BootinUp Jul 21 #17
OneCrazyDiamond Jul 21 #25
FakeNoose Jul 21 #21
Traildogbob Jul 21 #22
Johnny2X2X Jul 21 #24
IronLionZion Jul 21 #26
cstanleytech Jul 21 #27
Evolve Dammit Jul 21 #28
jmowreader Jul 21 #31
Evolve Dammit Jul 21 #32
Evolve Dammit Jul 21 #33
DanieRains Jul 21 #29
iemanja Jul 21 #30
Politicub Jul 21 #34
AllaN01Bear Jul 21 #35
pwb Jul 21 #37
turbinetree Jul 21 #38
mpcamb Jul 21 #42
turbinetree Jul 21 #45
mpcamb Jul 21 #52
turbinetree Jul 21 #54
rdking647 Jul 21 #39
GB_RN Jul 21 #43
turbinetree Jul 21 #47
Historic NY Jul 21 #41
GB_RN Jul 21 #44
Flash953 Jul 21 #53
samsingh Jul 21 #48
JohnSJ Jul 21 #49
truthisfreedom Jul 21 #50

Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:16 AM

1. "after what we've been experiencing"? They have their feelings hurt so they'll shut it all down.

Nothing like using your political power to settle your petty grievances.

Just like Rand referring criminal charges against Fauci for sassing him.

These Republicans are all about power and nothing about service to the people and to the country.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:08 PM

8. You got that right.

I am so disappointed in our Government. You hire them to solve problems over a spectrum, and all you get is this utter crap, which they think is acceptable and desirable behavior. All we hear is about how the Repubs plan to disrupt everything until they can grab power again and subject us all to their own fascist agenda. Shame on all of them! Except for Dems, although I just don't get what's his name, and the other one.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 03:25 PM

36. Here's what the GQP has been experiencing: (1) Loss of the Senate, and (2) loss of the presidency.

There's also a select committee set up to investigate, among other things, whether some of their congressional members and their party's Dear Leader were directly or indirectly involved in the insurrection on 1/6. Just a guess, but I'll bet that's something else Moscow Mitch would just as soon not experience.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:05 PM

40. The Pussy Party

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:16 AM

2. Here we go again with this nonsense. GQP hates America.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:23 AM

3. Get rid of it.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:27 AM

4. Cant wait to watch him eat his hat... again.

This is all part of the Republican shit show. Until they get rid of the debt limit - they will be forced to vote to raise it over and over again.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:51 AM

5. And all (majority ) of repukes

like brainless puppets will follow his voice.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:54 AM

6. Use the infrastructure bill to kill this requirement once and for all.

The only thing it does is give Republicans a hostage to take periodically. It serves no other purpose.

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:17 PM

12. They can't

Reconciliation can tell the budget committees to increase the debt ceiling by a specific amount or can suspend it for a given period of time (still questioned IIRC)... but a different change (like getting rid of the ceiling entirely) would require a different bill (which could be filibustered).

Besides... that would play into their hands from a PR perspective.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #12)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:47 PM

18. There are other types of reconcilliation

including one specifically dealing with the debt.

Senate Voting Rules and Budget Reconciliation Explained (Part 1)

January 25, 2021 Kelly Whitener

(snip)

Reconciliation bills however are not an open-ended, easy way to maneuver around the Senate’s filibuster rules. The Senate can consider three basic subjects of reconciliation – spending, revenues, and the federal debt limit – in a single bill or multiple bills, but it can consider each of these in only one bill per year (unless Congress passes a second budget resolution).

https://ccf.georgetown.edu/2021/01/25/senate-voting-rules-and-budget-reconciliation-explained/


This year, the "American Rescue Plan" utilized the "spending" option as far as I'm aware. They want to pass an Infrastructure bill (which would obviously also be a "spending" one) but that won't be able to be done using that type until after the end of this FY (post-September 30). However the other 2 options should be there, assuming neither of the others were already rolled into the American Rescue Plan one.

An example of use of one of the types was back in 2017, when the tax cuts for the rich was passed using a "revenue" one for reconciliation.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #18)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:51 PM

19. That's the option that I was talking about

The debt limit is a separate category of reconciliation (though for obvious reasons they usually go together)... but the rules limit that change to stating what the new limit is... which wouldn't include "we no longer have a limit"

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #19)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:04 PM

23. I don't think they are ever going to try to get rid of the limit

at any time in the future. There would need to be an almost entirely new Congress around to even attempt to broach that...

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #12)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:30 PM

46. Simple.

Have the reconciliation bill raise the debt limit to TREE(3) dollars. That is an incomprehensibly huge, but finite, number. Problem solved.

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Response to Salviati (Reply #46)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 06:39 PM

51. Which causes its own problems

The ads write themselves.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:58 AM

7. After they voted to raise it for tRump. So hypocritical. . . . nt

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:10 PM

9. Isn't that the Repuke mantra these days? Create a problem so others have to fix it?

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:21 PM

13. that has been going on for far too long

Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Trump. The worst of the worst.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:16 PM

10. 'after what we've been experiencing.'

like catastrophic pandemic.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:24 PM

14. GOP: Grand Obstruction Party

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:27 PM

15. And right on queue - the old playbook has been pulled out of storage and dusted off.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:31 PM

16. This is just a shot across the bow.

Primarily at Manchin and other Dems to get them to restrict the size of the reconciliation bill.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:37 PM

17. That gambit will fail again. Nt

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #17)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:10 PM

25. IKR.

When has this ever worked for them?

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:53 PM

21. So typical - now all of a sudden they care about the national debt again

But, but but! ... Nary a word was said the entire time Chump was cleaning out the US Treasury for himself and his friends.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:56 PM

22. Of course

While they SCREAM partisanship for Pelosi denying GYM Jordon investigating himself, they will follow the Turtle to zero GQP doing any of the job.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:06 PM

24. Reconciliation Bill

The Reps are already killing the bipartisan infrastructure deal, Dems will have to go it alone, I say throw everything in that bill, including "funding" for voter rights assurance.

Put it all in there, might as well. Manchin can be convinced, he will be a yes.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:11 PM

26. What are they experiencing?

Lots of new jobs, an improving economy, high approval rating for our president, pandemic ending for vaccinated regions. Yeah, that sounds pretty awful to an awful person like Mitch.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:16 PM

27. Dems should pull in a few Republican Senators in private

that are up for election in 2022 and warn that them their state will be gutted like a fish on receiving more federal monies than their state contributed in taxes if they choose to go along with Mitch on this.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:33 PM

28. If it benefited the rich, they'd raise it in a heartbeat.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #28)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:48 PM

31. The real worry is it does benefit the rich

The rich own most of the debt, and they also own the companies the money is spent at.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #31)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:09 PM

32. fair point. As Carlin said; "The real owners; They own this fucking place."

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:33 PM

29. Tax The 1% A One Time $20 Trillion Dollar Flat Tax

That should do for a while.

They will still be insanely rich, and we can have the money to switch to green energy and create jobs.

Win Win!

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:39 PM

30. Interesting how Republicans suddenly become concerned about the debt

only when a Democratic President is in office. Hypocrites.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:54 PM

34. Shades of the Obama era and the awful sequester

I’m not a bit surprised that the republicans are invoking the debt ceiling as a form of leverage. We are half-assed as a party about the Democratic majority leverage by keeping the filibuster in place.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:59 PM

35. this is the way its been for the last 50 years folks . what else is new? nothing.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 03:31 PM

37. Pukes are not heavy independent thinkers.

Not one .

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 03:34 PM

38. They can give 1.5 trillion tax cut without batting an eye, but when it comes to putting people to

work to make a living..........its fuck you don't let the door hit you in the ass...FUCK Moscow Mitch and there fucking horse they ride on...:and there supply side fucking economics which is a fucking failure...grr:

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #38)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:19 PM

42. trump ran up the national debt by 7 TRILLION in 4 years. Why so tightfisted, Mitch?

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Response to mpcamb (Reply #42)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:26 PM

45. Yepper spot on...

he is such a ass....

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #45)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 08:46 PM

52. McConnell or trump? ...I mean, com'on take your pick!

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Response to mpcamb (Reply #52)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:52 PM

54. Mctrump

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 03:48 PM

39. while they are at it use reconcilliation to remove the debt ceiling entirely

its stupid to have it at all

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Response to rdking647 (Reply #39)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:19 PM

43. I Agree

Playing chicken with the nation's credit every year or two, especially with guys like Raphael "Ted" sCruz-ball (R-Batshit Crazy), who is noted for playing that game and trying to hold the country hostage, is extra stupid. No other country in the world has a "debt ceiling. It's (long past) time to eliminate ours.

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Response to rdking647 (Reply #39)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:33 PM

47. Yepper spot on.....

tired of the right wing crap all the time.....they can bankrupt the system and then they whine while giving out trillions in tax cuts, and to top it all off they have the lobbyists telling them how to create a tax loop holes so they don't have to pay a tax....and off shore the money....and leave everyone else holding the bag and using the infrastructure being put in place and laughing all the way to the bank and not paying a dime, but using the air force, roads ect......not happening anymore, hell we are still paying for those jerks Cheney and Bush's debacle in the middle east....we at one time had a balance budget....people forget this....

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:16 PM

41. Schumer should keep the lights on until they do...

no summer vacation and time to regroup. Speak softly and carry a Louisville slugger.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #41)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:20 PM

44. Carry It Right Upside Moscow Mitch's Head?

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #41)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 08:54 PM

53. what a hippocrite

No one leaves until dems decision is shoved up the Turtle's butt.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:36 PM

48. unless it's for tax cuts for the ultra rich

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 05:25 PM

49. That didn't work out well for them the last time they did that manuever

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 06:20 PM

50. Exactly what we respect from Moscow Mitch

And the do-nothing repukes.

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