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Omaha Steve

(99,630 posts)
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 10:00 AM Jul 2021

Fox says MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell has decided to 'pause' his pillow ads amid election crusade

Source: CNN

By Brian Stelter,

New York (CNN Business)Mike Lindell's pillows have been propping up Fox News for years. But now the relationship is on "pause."

Here's the context for the Thursday evening announcement: Lindell, the CEO of MyPillow, has had beef with Fox for months. He brought it up with The Atlantic's Anne Applebaum when she interviewed him for a profile titled "The MyPillow Guy Really Could Destroy Democracy."

Applebaum said Lindell "told me that if it weren't for attacks by 'the left' — by which he means Politico, the Daily Beast, and, presumably, me — his message would never get out, because Fox News ignores him."

In addition to selling pillows, Lindell also moonlights as a talking head at far-right outlets. He has been consumed by an illogical attempt to prove that his pal Donald Trump won the 2020 election that he actually lost.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/media/mike-lindell-fox-news-mypillow-ads/index.html

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Fox says MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell has decided to 'pause' his pillow ads amid election crusade (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jul 2021 OP
Another genius business decision. JohnnyRingo Jul 2021 #1
Someone thank him. I'm sick of seeing his lying ugly mug anyway. overleft Jul 2021 #2
Clearly, throwing marketing dollars at these awful products is NOT producing results. NCDem47 Jul 2021 #3
When a business is in trouble WA-03 Democrat Jul 2021 #4
He runs a butt ton of ads in Fox prime time. underpants Jul 2021 #8
The guy forgot the lesson of "holes" WA-03 Democrat Jul 2021 #9
Yep. Like all things attached to Trump. underpants Jul 2021 #10
Cost of goods on a crappy pillow WA-03 Democrat Jul 2021 #11
Sorry But, No ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #24
I saw a tweet yesterday that analyzed Tooker's advertisers tishaLA Jul 2021 #29
Probably talking to Newsmax. AngryOldDem Jul 2021 #5
Trump wouldn't even talk to him after the election. 33taw Jul 2021 #6
Although the two have appeared together on stage since then. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2021 #22
So wall to wall "Fruits and Veggie" supplement ads? underpants Jul 2021 #7
I hope he's running out of money Mysterian Jul 2021 #12
Preferably a crumbling bridge! n/t aggiesal Jul 2021 #17
In addition to selling pillows, Lindell also moonlights as a talking head at far-right outlets. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #13
tucker lost his main advertiser LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #14
Does he have any advertisements left? Is Cash 4 Gold still a thing? Initech Jul 2021 #15
The sooner crazy pillow man goes away the better! Initech Jul 2021 #16
If I had enough money, I'd buy as many Fox stations as I could and it would be 24/7 yoga/ meditation Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #18
Pausing them because he's losing money would be my guess. But blame it on FOX Mikey,I don't care Bengus81 Jul 2021 #19
His pillows need to be put to sleep Gregory Peccary Jul 2021 #20
Translation True Blue American Jul 2021 #21
In Other Words... ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #23
Americans are sleeping much better during the new presidency IronLionZion Jul 2021 #25
His ads of late are telling PSPS Jul 2021 #26
there should be a public pain in the ass clause ????? monkeyman1 Jul 2021 #27
Yikes! Mike Nelson Jul 2021 #28
Two weeks until Reinstatement Day, Mikey-boy. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2021 #30

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
1. Another genius business decision.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 10:08 AM
Jul 2021

I'd like to see a graph of "My Pillow" sales beginning in 2012 and see if I can tell when he started opening his mouth.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
3. Clearly, throwing marketing dollars at these awful products is NOT producing results.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 10:10 AM
Jul 2021

Why spend then? The word is out. THEY. ARE. CRAPPY. Business has dried up.

Plus, raging asshole who has totally polticized his product and sent it to the dust bin.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,050 posts)
4. When a business is in trouble
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 10:11 AM
Jul 2021

Marketing expenses and every expense goes under a microscope. The ads are not bring in sales. The ads are not the problem. The business and the owner are one in the same nut. It’s toxic.

underpants

(182,802 posts)
8. He runs a butt ton of ads in Fox prime time.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 10:32 AM
Jul 2021

I’ve heard some on talk radio recently too. All with steep discounts. The $70 pillow he made a fortune on are now $30 with the specific discount code.

I don’t understand purposefully limiting yourself to only one market , shutting out at least 1/2.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,050 posts)
9. The guy forgot the lesson of "holes"
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 10:40 AM
Jul 2021

When you find yourself digging one and then realize it, you stop digging and get out. Mike brought in the backhoe and screamed “100 feet deeper!”

The business is broken beyond repair. He should sell what is left so he can dedicate himself full time to hitting rock bottom.

underpants

(182,802 posts)
10. Yep. Like all things attached to Trump.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 10:46 AM
Jul 2021

If it doesn’t happen otherwise at some point he’ll set you adrift just to enjoy watching you float away.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,050 posts)
11. Cost of goods on a crappy pillow
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 10:48 AM
Jul 2021

Is $5 rounding up. There should be enough for a profit margin. They should do direct sales only and erase everything Mike. The retail side imploded already but that is one less big hand to grease so lowering the price makes sense. I suspect he is funding his personal “Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride” from the business. Nothing is sticking for him and he keeps doubling down. More than one screw loose but I am not a Doctor

ProfessorGAC

(65,034 posts)
24. Sorry But, No
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 02:00 PM
Jul 2021

It costs them way more than $5 a pillow to make them.
They've sold 46 million pillows in the last 10 years. Their high is 6 million.
Before human overhead payments, their cost to produce is nearly $60 million.
That's $10 a pillow before compensation, SG&A, debt service and debt capital repayment.
Their best pretax margins on $150 million in revenue was 20.4%.
So, overall it cost at least $20 to make, market & ship.

And, that $70 cost was nearly always a BOGOF, so it's 2 pillows for seventy buck.
Now, they're dumping inventory, selling them for $30 for 2. Since they lost major retailers & the brand is toxic, the sales volume has plummeted. The safety stock threshold for inventory went way down.
They're shedding inventory to reduce carrying costs & abate some cash flow hemorrhage.

I've done a deep dive on their financials (which as a privately held company, is tough) because I didn't believe his claims about his net worth.
My numbers prove he's nowhere close to as wealthy as he claims (meaning he lies).

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
29. I saw a tweet yesterday that analyzed Tooker's advertisers
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 03:53 PM
Jul 2021

and Mr Pillow accounts for more than 40% of his ad buys. I'm sure they can fill in some of that with reverse mortgage and catheter ads at reduced ad rates, but it has to be a huge loss to white nationalist broadcasting.

underpants

(182,802 posts)
7. So wall to wall "Fruits and Veggie" supplement ads?
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 10:29 AM
Jul 2021

My daughter loves watching Tucker with me. We laugh and rag on him for whatever we watch. They have tons of commercials for a fruits and veggies supplement. She cracks up about that too “WOW fruits and vegetables huh? Who knew?” I was going to buy some for her as a joke for her birthday and then I saw I couldn’t get them at a retail store and it is $99 per two bottle package. Monthly subscriptions are $70 and until this year there was no way to manage your account. No sign in. You had to call their customer service.

twodogsbarking

(9,749 posts)
13. In addition to selling pillows, Lindell also moonlights as a talking head at far-right outlets.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 10:52 AM
Jul 2021

That is priceless.

ProfessorGAC

(65,034 posts)
23. In Other Words...
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 01:48 PM
Jul 2021

...he can't afford them anymore, even though a minute of advertising on hannity is cheap.

PSPS

(13,595 posts)
26. His ads of late are telling
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 02:29 PM
Jul 2021

His ad buys now seem to be mostly in low-priced slots, maybe even pre-emptable slots. So he's short on cash. Another bad indicator is that the ads have been modified to show him complaining how "they are trying to cancel me" and goes on to breathlessly offer his products "directly from me" for a "never seen before discount" price that is about 1/3 of what they were priced before.

The first of these ("they are trying to cancel me" ) could be dismissed as just demographic marketing (i.e., the MAGA demo,) but the 2/3 off what the price was just a month or two before is indicative of a company very short on cash and circling the drain.

None of this would be happening to him and his company if he had, you know, stuck to selling his products instead of trying to become a political figure. He really went off the deep end.

Mike Nelson

(9,955 posts)
28. Yikes!
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 03:44 PM
Jul 2021

... that's a big chunk of ad dollars FOX loses in prime time! He one of their biggest advertisers. They won't get Coca-Cola or many other companies to pick up the ad time... guess they will have to double up on Tom Sellick!

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