Shontel Brown, who stuck close to Biden, wins Democratic primary for House seat in Ohio, AP projects

[George II]

Source: Associated Press

CLEVELAND — Shontel Brown, whose campaign highlighted her loyalty to President Joe Biden, won a special election primary Tuesday in Ohio’s 11th Congressional District, a race that commanded national attention while dividing national Democrats along ideological lines.

Brown, whose victory was projected by The Associated Press, defeated Nina Turner, a former state senator known nationally for her work on Sen. Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaigns.

"Don’t leave this place sad,” Turner, who conceded shortly after 10 p.m. ET, told supporters gathered at a bowling alley in Maple Heights. “Don’t leave this place depressed. I want you to leave this celebration more resolute, because we still have more work to do.”

For months, the race had been Turner’s to lose, given her broader fundraising base and early lead in polling. Brown, a Cuyahoga County Council member who also chairs the county’s Democratic Party, caught up in the final weeks as outside groups helped her close the money gap and both candidates invited national surrogates to campaign in the district.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/shontel-brown-defeats-nina-turner-ohio-11th-congressional-district-n1275878

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Yes, this is from the holy grail of race calls, Associated Press!

For some reason, with all the news outlets in the United States, only ONE is acceptable, Associated Press.

[Budi]

1. CONGRATS, REP SHONTEL BROWN 💙

She will proudly represent President Biden, VP Harris, Speaker Pelosi & our dedicated Congressional Democrats.

Thank you Ohio-11 💙

[live love laugh]

2. Nice. She's going to have to contend with red state dirty tricks. Wishing her the very best.nt

[George II]

3. Thankfully Ohio is becoming somewhat "purple" and the District is 70-80% blue.

[live love laugh]

4. +1

[Wuddles440]

32. Sorry..

but your optimism and enthusiasm (although appreciated) is not grounded in actual reality. Ohio is not "becoming somewhat purple" and is rather becoming more of a solid "red" state. I've been a resident (trying desperately to escape) of Ohio for over 24 years and have witnessed the GQP expanding their stranglehold over it year after year. Despite voters approving rules in 2015 and 2018 for drawing electoral maps that would be more fair and transparent, the GQP has chose to ignore the will of the people and proceed with creating districts that maintain their dominance and absolute control. Outside of the major metro areas, all of the remaining state is bright red and is represented by some of the most hyper-partisan, extremist in the GQP universe. Voters in these areas have been conditioned to ignore the massive, epic corruption that routinely occurs, accept legislation that is contrary to their economic interests, and cast their votes purely on "God, Guns, and Gays." In most districts in Ohio, all you need is a "R" behind your name to get elected. With all due respect to DU Floridians, there's a reason that Ohio has been dubbed the "Florida of the Midwest."

[True Blue American]

34. I will wait for the

Redistricting process with a committee instead of Republicans picking and choosing.

Most cities in Ohio are blue. Cincinnati has a Democratic Mayor. So does Dayton. Both are running to replace DeWine. Republicans have become so corrupt it is oozing all over.

I do know all the counties along the Ohio River put Obama in office. A Republican area for over 100 years. Ohio put him over the top in electoral votes. I know, jumped clear out of my Lazy Boy to cheer!

The rural areas remain Republican.

[Wuddles440]

39. Find some place...

comfortable, because your wait may seem like eternity (which it may will be). The GQP has been and will continue resisting any redistricting that even would remotely threaten their absolute control and ability to act with total impunity. They consistently pass legislation that adversely impacts and is contemptuous of governance and residents in urban areas. This approach has been very effective as it causes those urban dwellers to become extremely frustrated with their local government/leaders and they then become apathetic to voting. In the suburbs, the GQP has been methodically gaining control of all levels of local government and has recently become more aggressive in in their campaign to dominate school boards. Their obsession with promoting regressive tax laws, which coddle business interests and penalize wage earners/pensioners, proceeds with unabated enthusiasm. I can go on, but you get the idea.

[True Blue American]

40. that dear Sir is why

Buckeyes voted over whelmingly for an unbiased committee to redistrict, rather than either Political party. John Boehner drew the horrible Gym Jordan District half way across Ohio. From Columbus colear up to Marion County.

The irony is Gym and the Freedumb Caucus pushed Boehner out.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

33. This is a gerrymandered district that went for 78.9% for Biden

Gerrymandering works by packing Democratic voters into a few districts. This is a "packed" district

[Budi]

5. Thanks for posting this very good news! A very happy day for our House Democrats

Now we can all move ahead & join President Biden in his mission to Build this country Back Better.

Much thanks to the best of Ohio-11.

[SheltieLover]

6. Congrats, Shontel!

[question everything]

7. And a loss to the leftists

[Budi]

8. And not one spoke up against Turner's juvenile labels delegated to our best

She had literally zero record to run on, against Brown, so gutter politics became her media messaging.

They should all be ashamed of the words she spoke, and the support they gave in support of it.
They all wear that stench for not demanding a higher level of self respect.

Biden is not a bowl of shit
Harris is not merely a seat filler
Clyburn is not stupid.

And those are just 3 of the cringeworthy words used to address our finest lifelong Democratic Party leaders.

It was awful & there's no excuse for any person of self respect to ignore her words.

I am so glad its over.

[Beakybird]

11. Here! Here!

[Skittles]

38. it's acually Hear! Hear!

and I heartily agree!

[Beakybird]

47. Hahahaha! Yup

[betsuni]

13. +1

[FarPoint]

16. I completely agree.....

My voiced concerns were not always well received during the Primaries either....attacked by Nina supporters.....such banter only reinforced my concerns...I am soooo relieved we have Shontel Brown as our candidate...Now, I'll take a relaxing breath.

[oldsoftie]

17. Clyburn once again being King/Queen maker. Smart man

Sorry Bernie, this election was reserved for Democrat endorsements

[True Blue American]

41. Pundits are saying the voters are choosing people who can get along

Not flame throwers. Nina lost me when she went over to Jill Stein.

https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-nina-turner-historic-support-green-party-candidate-1615653

[True Blue American]

42. Pundits are saying the voters are choosing people who can get along

Not flame throwers. Nina lost me when she went over to Jill Stein.

https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-nina-turner-historic-support-green-party-candidate-1615653

[True Blue American]

35. I am pleased.

Am a Democrat, not a left wing.

[Nixie]

9. K&R!

I’m still so excited about this!

[Marrah_Goodman]

10. Congrats to Ms Brown

I hope she does well in the election

[LetMyPeopleVote]

12. This makes me smile

Link to tweet

[EYESORE 9001]

14. Among the lessons of this campaign

lies a reminder that political polling is a dismal science. Correct me if I’m wrong, but polls showed Shontel Brown merely ‘closing the gap’ as of Election Day. Polls will continue to get touted incessantly, I’m sure, but I hope the final numbers in this race drive a stake through the heart of the notion that polling has any real value.

[oldsoftie]

15. Turner blames "money", but she raised FAR more than Brown

blame everyone else but yourself

[NurseJackie]

19. Yes she did raise more than Brown...

but she raised FAR more than Brown

Yes she did raise more than Brown... but to hear Nina's supporters describe it, Nina's money was "holy" and Brown's money was "evil".

blame everyone else but yourself

There was definitely a bit of a disconnect regarding her self-assessment of the campaign (and the horrible things she said.)

[oldsoftie]

29. OH! I didnt know about the "holy" money. I need some of that.

[True Blue American]

36. Turner created her history. The Jill Stein foray

Was not good.

[hlthe2b]

18. Nina conceded--color me shocked. I thought she'd pull a stunt from Trump playbook & contest

Last edited Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:22 AM - Edit history (1)

So, I do credit her with this one decent act (albeit little else).

On edit, seems that though she technically conceded, she'd started to launch a very Trump-like response, stopped only by aids when she sought to claim "corrupt $$ defeated her."

[NurseJackie]

20. Her concession speech wasn't gracious. It wasn't written in advance...

... it was last-minute and off-the-cuff. She's not very good when it comes to speaking extemporaneously.

[hlthe2b]

27. Thus my edited comment. I did not hear her, but only expressed surprise she conceded

at all...

[NurseJackie]

28. Yep. That was a surprise. Earlier there were rumblings of "rigged" coming from her campaign.

[PatSeg]

25. Seriously?

I suppose that sounds very Turner-like, casting blame and taking no responsibility at all.

[riversedge]

21. 'despite endorsements from Bernie Sanders, AOC, The Squad, Katie Porter, Pramila Jayapal, and others

In some ways it is a loss for these Progressives also.




@chris_notcapn
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BREAKING: Nina Turner has LOST the Democratic primary to Shontel Brown in #OH11 despite endorsements from Bernie Sanders, AOC, The Squad, Katie Porter, Pramila Jayapal, and others.

#GoodbyeSomebody

Link to tweet

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[PatSeg]

24. Yes, I think you're right

I wonder if any of them have any regrets right now. Their endorsements certainly affected my opinion of them to some degree, if for no other reason, the lack of reasonable judgment. The whole world could see what an out-of-control flame thrower Turner has been for years. What on earth did they believe Turner would have contributed to the Democratic party?

The good news is Brown won by 6 points after polls showed her behind for months. This is wonderful news and a great relief.

[True Blue American]

37. Pundits said

The people want the level head, get along with others type. They are sick of bomb throwers.

I agree!

[PatSeg]

43. Yes, historically the bomb throwers

rarely accomplished positive change. They just blew things up and left them for others to clean up, much like undisciplined teenagers. They tend to be good at recognizing the problems and what needs changing, but they don't have the temperament, discipline, patience, or expertise to make change happen. If they don't get all of what they want fast enough, they throw more bombs often alienating the people who initially agreed with them. In the end, they probably get no progressive change at all.

You know, I used to get so sick of hearing Obama's people saying over and over again, "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good", but over time, I could see they were right. Initially, Obamacare was a major disappointment and far from perfect, but it ended up being a big improvement over what we had before. As I get older, I realize that lasting change does tend to come incrementally and there will always be those who won't be happy about it.

And that brings us back to Nina Turner. I don't think she'll ever be satisfied, because she thrives on the problems, it is what fuels her.

[True Blue American]

44. Now you are talking!

That is what Biden said and McConnell actually said the same thing! Compromise means no one will get everything they want but like anything you have to start somewhere.

We need to fight to keep those who compromise in control. I am feeling more hopeful every day.

[PatSeg]

45. Yes and I do understand

those who have problems with compromise. There are times when the purist in me is resistant, but the pragmatist in me usually (not always) prevails. An "all or none" attitude is a huge loser. More often than not, you end up with the "none"! A much younger me would probably disagree.

[True Blue American]

46. Of course. We all were young

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Once. I am on a board where both sides are mad at me, but I stirred up the conversation.

We can all be hide bound demanding everything go our way. Life does not work that way. Reading posts where I want my 1950 life style back . The 1950’s were not the utopia people think.

It was a case of men coming home from war, working their heads off to create a thriving middle class, then letting it dribble away. While their families helped.

I noticed this week on the Senate floor how many women spoke on compromise.

[PatSeg]

48. Yes, selective memory

The 1950s were very good for some people. After the Great Depression and World War II, the stability and the financial opportunities were very appealing. Of course, the increased home ownership and college educations were largely due to government programs for veterans. Unfortunately, not everyone thrived and for those that did, it didn't always last.

It is interesting that the women in the Senate were more likely to be willing to compromise. As a mother, I can understand that. It is in our blood.

[True Blue American]

50. Amen!

[riversedge]

22. Best of luck to Shontel Brown in her new position.

[LiberalFighter]

23. Turner was a minor player at best.

[Skittles]

51. well she certainly is now

yes indeed

[mcar]

26. It's settled, then

Congratulations Shontel Brown!

[llashram]

30. good

[electric_blue68]

31. I probably agree more with Nina on policy than Shontel - but Nina's comments...

were Nasty, and I'd only heard the bowl comment!
Clyburn "stupid"?!
Kamala just a "place holder"?!

I wouldn't want that attitude rewarded with a win.
So, good! And Good Luck, Shontel! 👍

[Hortensis]

49. Sure, but also, what'd be the value of agreeing on policy if

Turner once again tried to defeat Democrats in 2022 and/or 2024, willing to toss all our policies under the Republican bus with us?

I agree OH-11 did good.