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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 09:45 PM Aug 2021

Forest Service maxed out as wildfires break across US West

Source: AP

By EUGENE GARCIA and DAISY NGUYEN

WESTWOOD, Calif. (AP) — The U.S. Forest Service said Friday it’s operating in crisis mode, fully deploying firefighters and maxing out its support system as wildfires continue to break out across the U.S. West, threatening thousands of homes and entire towns.

The roughly 21,000 federal firefighters working on the ground is more than double the number of firefighters sent to contain forest fires at this time a year ago, and the agency is facing “critical resources limitations,” said Anthony Scardina, a deputy forester for the agency’s Pacific Southwest region.

An estimated 6,170 firefighters alone are battling the Dixie Fire in Northern California, the largest of 100 large fires burning in 14 states, with dozens more burning in western Canada.

The fire began a month ago and has destroyed more than 1,000 homes, businesses and other structures, much of it in the small town of Greenville in the northern Sierra Nevada.



After walking down a gravel road to do recon on a fire cresting into the trees, a wildland firefighter grimaces as he walks back to his crew on Thursday, Aug. 12, 2021, at the Bedrock Fire north of Lenore, Idaho. Lenore is about 30 miles east of Lewiston, Idaho. (Pete Caster/Lewiston Tribune via AP)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/fires-environment-and-nature-california-montana-wildfires-56e8fc9bf52dca140255335cd2b6dc04

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Forest Service maxed out as wildfires break across US West (Original Post) Omaha Steve Aug 2021 OP
Should have raked the forest like Dotard recommended. keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #1
and this is the new normal... bahboo Aug 2021 #2
I wonder how long we can stay ... the previous couple was in this house 30 years... Hekate Aug 2021 #3
Four years ago already. Didn't realize. Hortensis Aug 2021 #5
I remember when I moved to the Central Coast in 1979 the rule of thumb was about 30 years... Hekate Aug 2021 #6
Hate to mention it, my friend.... dixiegrrrrl Aug 2021 #7
I miss those beautiful yellow sweeps just thinking about it, but Hortensis Aug 2021 #8
The 666koch666 tax not fooled Aug 2021 #4

keithbvadu2

(36,804 posts)
1. Should have raked the forest like Dotard recommended.
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 09:56 PM
Aug 2021

Should have raked the forest like Dotard recommended.

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
3. I wonder how long we can stay ... the previous couple was in this house 30 years...
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 11:07 PM
Aug 2021

I was hoping we could do the same, as I love it so, but the same year we moved in 4 years ago a major regional fire roared up the coast and came within a hair’s breadth of our neighborhood — Ever since then it has seemed so impermanent.

Everybody, stay safe out there. The Goddess is coming, and is She pissed.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Four years ago already. Didn't realize.
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:47 AM
Aug 2021

Each fire in a general area takes out some of the fuel load that had built up. At least I like to think of it that way. And many areas won't burn.

Here in the east climate crisis wildfires will be coming. According to scientists they've started, but not nearly enough for people to realize what these woods combined with drought and heat will mean.

Stay cool

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
6. I remember when I moved to the Central Coast in 1979 the rule of thumb was about 30 years...
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 12:56 PM
Aug 2021

… for the fuel load to build back up. It seemed a reasonable risk to rebuild in some of those areas. Not any more, to me at least.

There’s been so little rain that the hills around my neighborhood and along the coast barely got a blush of green in season, and are deep brown. No great swathes of wild mustard appeared. The evergreen Live Oaks endure. Greenery is for close in to one’s home, as are flowers. Drip irrigation is popular — Californians are largely a drought-adapted folk by now, but there’s only so much you can squeeze farmers.

Ah well. It’s here now. I think our great fork in the road will prove to be 2000, when Dubya was installed as president and Gore was denied.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
7. Hate to mention it, my friend....
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 05:51 PM
Aug 2021


We were priced out of Cal. retirement in 2005. now in rural Aabama.

every place we had looked at in Cal. as a possible retirement place, including Lake county, has been hit by fire.

The other thing I looked at was water. So have been following that more recently.

How is the current water issue going to be affecting where you are. do you think??

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. I miss those beautiful yellow sweeps just thinking about it, but
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 06:17 PM
Aug 2021

otoh, that means it won't be adding to the fire hazard as it usually does.

We've heard about the drought continuing into this year, of course. We left SoCal in 2000 and had had severe drought with water restrictions for 7 of the previous 9 years. I was a nutso gardener then but continued by, as you say, adapting.

Here in NoGA, the rains were decent this year and last, but we're seeing far fewer birds and insects. It took forever for a butterfly to show up at the butterfly bush outside our kitchen, and some weeks later it finally very belatedly looks more normal; I saw 6 at once yesterday, this year's record. Next week I'll participate in GA's annual pollinator census. Very easy. For each entry you select a plant with pollinator activity and count the different insect species visiting it for 15 minutes.

Just thinking about 2000. Without that, including the precedent of a presidency settled by judicial decision, and with a tied senate and bare house majority like now, there would have been perhaps 8 more Democratic years of stabilizing investment in our nation, people and climate. No invasion of Iraq, no increase of ruthless RW authoritarianism during the Bush administration that changed our notions of what it is to be Americans, no great recession of 2008 that set RW populism on fire and set the stage...

I'd rather think about bugs.

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