U.S. to Advise Boosters for Most Americans 8 Months After Vaccination
Source: New York Times
WASHINGTON The Biden administration has decided that most Americans should get a coronavirus booster shot eight months after they completed their initial vaccination, and could begin offering the extra shots as early as mid-September, according to two administration officials familiar with the discussions. Officials are planning to announce the administrations decision as early as this week.
Their goal is to let Americans know now that they will need additional protection against the Delta variant that is causing surging caseloads across the nation. The first boosters are likely to go to nursing home residents and health care workers, followed by other older people who were near the front of the line when vaccinations began late last year. Officials envision giving people the same vaccine they originally received.
Among other worrisome signals, Biden administration officials are particularly concerned about data from Israel suggesting that the Pfizer-BioNTechs protection against severe disease has fallen significantly for elderly people who were vaccinated in January or February. Some administration officials have viewed Israel as a kind of template for the United States because it started vaccinating its population sooner. Israel has almost exclusively used the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, and it has a nationalized health care system that allows it to systematically track patients.
The latest data from Israel, posted on the governments website on Monday, shows what some experts describe as continued erosion of the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine over time both against mild or asymptomatic Covid-19 infections in general and against severe disease among the elderly.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/16/us/vaccination-booster-shots.html
The main papers were breaking with this tonight and include WaPo as well.
SunSeeker
(51,554 posts)sheshe2
(83,758 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,470 posts)Sooner rather than later. I heard that diabetics might be made part of the immunocomprised list.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Other brands will likely need booster.
imaginary girl
(861 posts)Wonder if you'll have to get the same? Not sure why you wouldn't be able to switch. It was all I could get at the time, and I was grateful for it, but was kind of hoping for something else to supplement! Any other J and J ers feel the same?
zuul
(14,624 posts)Other countries are mixing vaccines. My daughter got AZ in Berlin, then got Pfizer for her second dose.
napi21
(45,806 posts)Sounds like the different brands of vacs are being treated alike.
GPV
(72,377 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)all that's being discussed is the "other two".
I got J&J because it was the first one I could get, and because it's the same type of proven vaccine used for other diseases. Also, it was said that type of vaccine protection builds over time.
So I'm satisfied that I got that, and if either a booster-type J&J or 1 or 2 shot mRNA is recommended, I'll get that as well.
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)and their concern was that because the number of Janssen (J&J) recipients has been much lower and its approval came a couple months after the other two, they still need to gather more data to confirm the efficacy after 6 months given it's only been about 6 months since the approval itself happened. So it actually might not be needed just yet for the earliest recipients of it.
The earliest Pfizer/Moderna recipients got it last December, so they are 8-months post-vaccination. Plus Janssen's is not based on mRNA but adenovirus tech, so they want to determine the best route to go with a booster in that case - another Janssen or a booster with a different vaccine.
I think they are trying to not introduce too many variables into the decisions because that will only confuse things when it comes to any adverse events that might crop up.
There are studies going on to assess the impact of a booster for Janssen recipients including this one that I just found - https://uknow.uky.edu/research/uk-selected-site-covid-19-vaccine-booster-study (apparently to look at giving another shot of it as the booster, but trying to determine how much of it to give as a booster dose vs just doing a regular dose to boost).
Alternately, a current study is ongoing on mix/match where Janssen folks would get a full Moderna dose as a booster - https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-clinical-trial-evaluating-mixed-covid-19-vaccine-schedules-begins (and I saw some facilities participating were the University of Washington - http://www.uwvteu.org/2021/07/12/mix-n-match-booster-covid-19-vaccine-clinical-trial/ and University of Maryland - https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/mixandmatch/ as examples)
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Obviously, who knows what to actually believe right now with everything in flux.
I got the J&J because it is a major undertaking for me to do shots, and one was better than two. Im a little miffed about having to face this again, but I will do what my doctor recommends when the time comes.
I just dont get the exuberance over having to take boosters. I mean, yes, we all want to live. But what if another variant surfaces that even the boosters dont cover? I dont relish having to think of getting jabbed all the time. I have a phobia about it and I am NOT alone.
I wish the nasal vaccines would be given consideration and I wish more effort was being put into a treatment.
SKKY
(11,807 posts)...If you were given the J&J, you're likely to receive one of the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer or Moderna) as a booster.
brooklynite
(94,553 posts)Deminpenn
(15,286 posts)space everyone out. Smart to do it that way instead of by age group or occupation, etc.
brer cat
(24,565 posts)I got my Moderna in Jan/Feb and I am elderly.
EarthFirst
(2,900 posts)Which in my mind; may create a larger burden on the UrgentCare and primary doctor facilities in our area.
Im hoping that I do not have to return to my original vaccination site. There was an enormous reporting error made on their behalf to the state; which resulted in over 1K of us not able to use the digital vaccination passport offered by NYS.
At any rate; Im a ready and willing participant who is approaching six months...
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)For a booster shot program.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)in those countries, most of which tend to have many in remote/rural areas, is the biggest challenge.
You can't just ship cases of vaccine that have ultra-low freezer requirements, to a country that is ill-equipped to handle further distribution of it to areas beyond the urban centers. And although once diluted, the 2 primary ones from here were approved for 30 day storage at refrigerator temps, it still requires a stable level infrastructure to get it to the most vulnerable (including deploying mobile vax centers as is being done with new Ebola vaccine in some countries).
This is what the Biden Administration has shipped as of 8/3/21. I had posted about it here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2780565
As part of COVAX (global inititive to pool/ship vaccines) the U.S. has sent 110 million doses to other countries.
From here (issued Tuesday) - https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/08/03/fact-sheet-president-biden-announces-major-milestone-in-administrations-global-vaccination-efforts-more-than-100-million-u-s-covid-19-vaccine-doses-donated-and-shipped-abroad/
August 03, 2021
Statements and Releases
Building off of last weeks announcement of additional actions that we are taking to stop the spread of the Delta variant and get more people vaccinated in the United States, President Biden will give an update on another critical piece of his strategy to end the COVID-19 pandemic: stopping the spread of the virus abroad. As one part of our strategy to do that, the President has promised that the United States will be an arsenal of vaccines for the world and is acting with the same urgency to combat the virus abroad as here at home. Today, the President will announce that the U.S. has now donated and shipped more than 110 million doses of its COVID-19 vaccines to more than 60 countries a major milestone that cements the United States as the global leader in COVID-19 vaccine donations. According to the United Nations, this is more than the donations of all other countries combined and reflects the generosity of the American spirit.
In June, the President committed to donate at least 80 million vaccines from the U.S. supply to countries throughout the world, and he promised to continue to share as we are able. Todays announcement is a fulfillment of his promise and a significant down payment on hundreds of millions of more doses that the U.S. will deliver in the coming weeks. The United States has been able to share these doses because of the aggressive action the President took when he came into office to secure enough vaccines for all Americans. The majority of these vaccines made in the United States were shipped through COVAX. The United States has also worked in close partnership with key regional partners, including the African Union and the Caribbean Community (CARICOM).
These more than 110 million doses that are already saving lives around the world are just the beginning of the Administrations efforts to provide vaccines to the world. Starting at the end of this month, the Administration will begin shipping a half a billion Pfizer doses that the United States has pledged to purchase and donate to 100 low- income countries in need.
Biden Administrations Approach to Sharing U.S. Vaccines: Our goals are to increase global COVID-19 vaccination coverage, prepare for surges and prioritize healthcare workers and other vulnerable populations based on public health data and acknowledged best practice, and help our neighbors and other countries in need. Importantly, the United States has not and will not use its vaccines to secure favors from other countries. Our aim is to save lives.
The Administration looks at a variety of factors, including COVID-19 case rates, death rates, and hospitalizations; current vaccination rates; responses to surges; and a countrys ability to receive vaccines and put shots into arms.
We will continue to work with COVAX, regional partners such as the African Union and CARICOM, and other partners to ensure these vaccines are delivered in a way that is equitable and follows the science and public health data. This is a unique moment in history, and it requires American leadership, science and ingenuity, perseverance, and we are demonstrating that we can deliver results for people around the world.
To date, the U.S. has donated COVID-19 vaccines as follows:
Afghanistan 3,300,000 | Malaysia 1,000,000
Argentina 3,500,000 | Mali 151,000
Bangladesh 5,500,000 | Mauritania 302,000
Benin 302,000 | Mexico 4,049,000
Bhutan 500,000 | Moldova 301,000
Bolivia 1,008,000 | Morocco 302,000
Brazil 3,000,000 | Mozambique 302,000
Burkina Faso 302,000 | Nepal 1,534,000
Cambodia 1,058,000 | Niger 316,000
Cameroon 303,000 | Nigeria 4,000,000
Canada 2,500,000 | Pakistan 5,500,000
CAR 302,000 | Panama 503,000
Colombia 6,000,000 | Paraguay 2,000,000
Costa Rica 500,000 | Peru 2,000,000
Djibouti 151,000 | Philippines 6,239,000
Ecuador 2,000,000 | PNG 302,000
El Salvador 3,000,000 | ROK 1,012,000
Eswatini 302,000 | Senegal 302,000
Ethiopia 1,664,000 | Somalia 302,000
Fiji 150,000 | South Africa 5,660,000
Gambia 302,000 | Sri Lanka 1,500,000
Georgia 503,000 | Sudan 604,000
Guatemala 4,500,000 | Taiwan 2,500,000
Guinea Bissau 302,000 | Tajikistan 1,500,000
Haiti 500,000 | Tanzania 1,058,000
Honduras 3,000,000 | Thailand 1,500,000
Indonesia 8,000,000 | Tunisia 1,000,000
Jordan 503,000 | Ukraine 2,000,000
Laos 1,000,000 | Uruguay 500,000
Lesotho 302,000 | Uzbekistan 3,000,000
Liberia 302,000 | Vietnam 5,000,000
Madagascar 302,000 | Zambia 302,000
Malawi 302,000 | Total 111,701,000
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US Has Shipped 110 Million COVID-19 Vaccine Doses to 65 Countries
By Steve Herman
August 03, 2021 09:57 PM
WHITE HOUSE - Calling it a major milestone, U.S. President Joe Biden announced on Tuesday that the country has shipped more than 110 million doses of coronavirus vaccine to 65 nations that are among the hardest hit in the world.
"This is more than the donations of all 24 countries that donate any vaccine to other countries, including China and Russia," Biden said during remarks in the White House East Room. The president emphasized that Washington is making no demands for its donations of doses. "And there's no favoritism and no strings attached. We're doing this to save lives to end this pandemic," Biden said.
In response to a question from VOA on whether other high-income countries should follow the lead of the United States, the president replied: "I think those countries that have been able to cover their population and have the ability to provide either dollars and/or vaccines for the 100 or so net-poor nations that need help should do so."
Biden added that some Group of 7 countries, which made such pledges at their recent summit in England, have followed through. "We've kept the commitment that we would do what we said, which is more than all the rest of the countries combined this far," the president noted.
https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/us-has-shipped-110-million-covid-19-vaccine-doses-65-countries
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)And I'll probably be wearing a mask in public until I die. There are just too many willing idiots that will keep this thing going and mutating. (The actuary tables indicate that I have fewer than 15 years remaining--if I'm lucky--and this deadly virus isn't going to go away in that time period.)
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)initially as a flu shot to be administered along with one of the current COVID-19 vaccines. But some like Moderna, are working on a mRNA-based flu shot, so eventually there could be an all-mRNA flu/COVID combo annual vaccine.
It took awhile for the 1918 flu to become endemic and even today, over a century later, it is still circulating and showing up mixed in at a tiny percentage, with other flu variants.
twodogsbarking
(9,749 posts)about five years ago. People commented erroneously about the 1918 flu and denied
much of what we know as fact. Interestingly enough they also said a modern day
epidemic wouldn't last because science is better now. Sounded reasonable at the time.
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)but the people are worse.
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)Was glad to see I'm in the already vaxxed database. Due to some early quirks I had my doubts.
Do they want my passport too?