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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,304 posts)
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:38 PM Aug 2021

Pentagon Spokesperson John Kirby Says There Are Thousands of Americans Still in Afghanistan

Source: Newsweek

There are thousands of Americans still trapped in Afghanistan amid the Taliban takeover of Kabul, a Pentagon spokesperson said Tuesday.

John Kirby, the press secretary for the Department of Defense, told CNN's New Day host John Berman that there could be anywhere from 5,000 to 10,000 U.S. citizens near Afghanistan's capital.

"We think there are certainly thousands of Americans," Kirby said. "We don't have an exact count."

Kirby noted that the State Department is advising U.S. citizens there on how to get to the airport and begin processing for flights out of the country.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pentagon-spokesperson-john-kirby-says-there-are-thousands-of-americans-still-in-afghanistan/ar-AANq9xY

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Pentagon Spokesperson John Kirby Says There Are Thousands of Americans Still in Afghanistan (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2021 OP
Um...how? Why? Why and how? Wingus Dingus Aug 2021 #1
ditto onetexan Aug 2021 #11
Aid workers, students/education groups, missionaries, the occasional tourist. haele Aug 2021 #17
And I hear US has gotten control of the airport and is on it. Point? LizBeth Aug 2021 #2
Getting To The Airport COL Mustard Aug 2021 #6
We will see what else they come up with as problems arise. What happens in crisis. LizBeth Aug 2021 #7
Um... greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #3
Will the Taliban start slaughtering a retreating/surrendering US army and US civilians? Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #4
American forces did not surrender to anybody. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #8
The US military is retreating from a war they didn't win. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #12
3000 troops kept the taliban at bay for quite some time. oldsoftie Aug 2021 #14
Bush sent us there based on lies. rockfordfile Aug 2021 #15
And thus begins the fog of war... BlueIdaho Aug 2021 #5
Some more info IronLionZion Aug 2021 #9
they prefer to be called 'Afghani' now PerceptionManagement Aug 2021 #10
Biden has made known US withdrawal for several months now, so if there are any Americans onetexan Aug 2021 #13
Agreed Sherman A1 Aug 2021 #16
The Administration shouldn't have been telling them the Afghan government was capable madville Aug 2021 #19
Perhaps Sherman A1 Aug 2021 #22
So they shouldn't have believed President Biden a month ago when he was saying madville Aug 2021 #18
Did you? Polybius Aug 2021 #21
There's at least one DU member who claims to live there Polybius Aug 2021 #20

haele

(12,684 posts)
17. Aid workers, students/education groups, missionaries, the occasional tourist.
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 03:45 PM
Aug 2021

There are plenty of US NGOs that operate across the world that have members who were caught flat-footed by the Afghan government's collapse. Some might not yet have heard about the overall Taliban take-over even now, depending on what region they are in and what they were doing.

Haele

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
7. We will see what else they come up with as problems arise. What happens in crisis.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 01:35 PM
Aug 2021

Not that chaos won't happen but what is done to address and solve the issues.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
3. Um...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:49 PM
Aug 2021

"There are thousands of Americans still trapped in Afghanistan, ... a Pentagon spokesperson said Tuesday."

Did he say they were trapped? Didn't catch that part in his statement.

Irish_Dem

(47,529 posts)
4. Will the Taliban start slaughtering a retreating/surrendering US army and US civilians?
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 01:05 PM
Aug 2021

Seems like a poor political strategy. They won the war, now they need to think like politicians, not soldiers.
Do they want to be a rogue, secretive, international pariah like North Korea? Or enter the world community to some extent? It is their choice.

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
8. American forces did not surrender to anybody.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 02:01 PM
Aug 2021

They engaged in a planned withdrawal because 20 years in that country is enough. And why continue to fight and lose American lives when the Afghans themselves had no will to fight? However, the speed of the Taliban takeover was not anticipated. And as far as slaughtering goes, no American troops will be slaughtered. They are fully armed and capable of defending themselves.

Irish_Dem

(47,529 posts)
12. The US military is retreating from a war they didn't win.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 03:57 PM
Aug 2021

Pure and simple, just like Viet Nam.

I grew up in the military. I know a retreat when I see one.

The Americans there are now outnumbered. Anything could happen.

oldsoftie

(12,635 posts)
14. 3000 troops kept the taliban at bay for quite some time.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 04:23 PM
Aug 2021

Yes, anything could happen. And if it DOES, then all bets should be OFF

rockfordfile

(8,708 posts)
15. Bush sent us there based on lies.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 05:01 PM
Aug 2021

The troops did what they were told to do. A lot of respect to our troops.
The only thing similar to Nam is that it was based on lies and finally we're getting out. This was warned before going into Afghanistan.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
5. And thus begins the fog of war...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 01:21 PM
Aug 2021

I for one am going to be looking for multiple sources before I buy anything the military is saying. Same goes for the usual suspects who have the military’s back.

IronLionZion

(45,570 posts)
9. Some more info
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 02:06 PM
Aug 2021
Some are residents, journalists or aid workers who may not want to leave. Most are scrambling to escape. Some are dual nationals or children of Americans who may not have the proper passport or visas, but the State Department has not told them how to fix their paperwork.

The State Department and the Defense Department basically have two options: negotiate safe passage for American citizens with the Taliban, if possible, or send the U.S. military out into the city to bring Americans back to the airport before the Taliban gangs find them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/08/16/biden-must-rescue-thousands-us-citizens-trapped-afghanistan/

onetexan

(13,071 posts)
13. Biden has made known US withdrawal for several months now, so if there are any Americans
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 04:07 PM
Aug 2021

who chose to take their time, sorry to say this but it's on them if they now can't make way to the airport. I don't believe there are but until the reporting can be more accurate i take it w a grain of salt.

madville

(7,412 posts)
19. The Administration shouldn't have been telling them the Afghan government was capable
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 10:01 PM
Aug 2021

of holding back the Taliban. It gave everyone a false sense of security or at least that there would be more time.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
22. Perhaps
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 02:35 AM
Aug 2021

But, there still is the whole thing about the calendar. I find it difficult to believe that folks on the ground in the area didn’t have a good idea of what was coming.

madville

(7,412 posts)
18. So they shouldn't have believed President Biden a month ago when he was saying
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 09:57 PM
Aug 2021

That the Afghan government and military were fully capable of defending the country against the Taliban?

Polybius

(15,510 posts)
20. There's at least one DU member who claims to live there
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 10:13 PM
Aug 2021

I'll try to find the post, but he posted this around 3 days ago.

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