Biden administration will start offering booster shots to all Americans on Sept. 20
Source: Washington Post
The Biden administration will begin offering coronavirus booster shots to all Americans on Sept. 20, top health officials announced Wednesday after concluding a third shot is needed to fight off waning immunity.
In a joint statement from top public health and medical experts, the administration confirmed they are developing plans to begin offering the booster shots after reviewing a wide array of data. The plan, which applies only to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, calls for all Americans to get a booster shot eight months after an individuals second dose. The officials said they expect a booster shot will be needed for people who received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, but they are still reviewing data and will announce plans at a later date.
The available data make very clear that protection against SARS-CoV-2 infection begins to decrease over time following the initial doses of vaccination, and in association with the dominance of the Delta variant, we are starting to see evidence of reduced protection against mild and moderate disease, the statement says.It continues: For that reason, we conclude that a booster shot will be needed to maximize vaccine-induced protection and prolong its durability.
The statement is signed by eight health officials, including Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; Vivek H. Murthy, the surgeon general, and Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/18/covid-delta-variant-live-updates/#link-XD3L2L2TM5DTJMTHIIU3YKZ7PA
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,439 posts)And good morning.
Irish_Dem
(47,047 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)since Fauci and others want to have people keep them "the same", although NIH is still looking at mixing and matching and med schools involved in it are still recruiting people - https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-clinical-trial-evaluating-mixed-covid-19-vaccine-schedules-begins
University of Washington - http://www.uwvteu.org/2021/07/12/mix-n-match-booster-covid-19-vaccine-clinical-trial/
University of Maryland - https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/mixandmatch/
This is parallel/follow-on to a study by Pfizer/AstraZeneca's mix/match trial that they reported results on recently - https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-06-28-mixed-oxfordpfizer-vaccine-schedules-generate-robust-immune-response-against-covid
Irish_Dem
(47,047 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)I think they were looking at the 8-months after the 2nd dose, which for me would be some time in December.
Irish_Dem
(47,047 posts)TxGuitar
(4,190 posts)onetexan
(13,041 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,047 posts)No idea what Bum or I said that was funny, but we do like to entertain, I confess.
onetexan
(13,041 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,047 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Gilbert Moore
(218 posts)My understanding is that it is the same and no changes to vax formulations.
Irish_Dem
(47,047 posts)That means we should have a good supply of the third shot.
Irish_Dem
(47,047 posts)I would have thought they would add something for the delta variant, but it looks that will not be the case.
Shanti Shanti Shanti
(12,047 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,158 posts)LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)IronLionZion
(45,440 posts)it was wild when it started last winter
BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)advertise walk-up COVID (and other) vaccinations. So I would think it would be a ton easier to do - even if you can walk-up and schedule when to come in later if they don't have any in stock at that time. It would then be a matter of their tracking and reporting it to the county/state (assuming those data systems distinguish "1st", "2nd", and what will now be "3rd" doses).
This is why they were telling people not to laminate their vaccine cards since there are 2 more lines on the front to add more doses (of that vaccine and/or anything else), along with 2 lines on the back of the card (that also has the line descriptions in Spanish).
marie999
(3,334 posts)all veterans, spouses, surviving spouses, and caregivers.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)The headline says they will be offering booster shots to all Americans on September 20. OK fine, but then in the body of the article it says that Americans will be offered "a booster shot eight months after an individuals second dose." So which is it? Will all Americans be eligible for a booster shot on Sept. 20 like the headline says, or will all Americans only be eligible eight months after their second shot? It can't be both. It has to be one or the other.
BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)and the FDA/CDC have not yet authorized boosters "for everyone" yet (just immuno-compromised).
So based on the presser that CDC/PHS/NIAID gave this morning, the "boosters for all Americans" is "a plan".
I.e., rather than "wait" until the authorizations come through and then try to come up with a plan, they have their plan in place now and as soon as the approval for "everyone" happens, then people who are 8 (or more) months past their 2nd dose, are eligible for the 3rd dose as a booster.
The example was (paraphrase) "if you received your 2nd dose February 1st, then your booster would be due on or after October 1st" and "if you received your 2nd dose March 15th, then your booster would be due on or after November 15th" and so on.
ETA - one of the press questions was asking about that date and they said obviously that is fluid based on when the approval for "all" actually happens, but best estimates are leading to around or just after that date.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)obviously is not true. Only Americans who had their second shot eight months before that date will be eligible on that date.
I guess I am a stickler for accurate headlines since a lot of busy people with not enough time to read the body of the article will only read the headline, then move on.
BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)I.e., it says "will start offering". But the key in the headline is "eligible" because ONLY people who have moderate to severely compromised immune systems are eligible immediately (right now, before that date).
On or after September 20, they are projecting that "everyone else" will be eligible, but the timing of when they actually get the 3rd dose will depend on when their 2nd dose was - and the 3rd will be 8 months later.
So anyone who got their 2nd shots from ~mid-January (if they were the earliest for a 1st in late December), then those people will be able to get a shot literally that day the "offer" opens up, and then it continues from then.
They also brought up Janssen (J&J)'s and mentioned that since it didn't become available for use until March, they still had a little time to come up with a strategy for them because the earliest J&J's were March (vs the earliest Pfizers in December), which would put the 6 month mark in September and 8 month mark in November, assuming they will go ahead with some kind of booster for that group.
When it comes to "headlines", I'm just glad that it actually fit DU's LBN headline field!
Shanti Shanti Shanti
(12,047 posts)8 months for general population is the main message I think
Immune compromised already eligible
ananda
(28,859 posts)Thank God!
I called CVS and they said it would be available
as an appointment or a walkin.
James48
(4,436 posts)If Pfizer and Moderna are making tweaks to the vaccines they produce, to account for the Delta variant?
I have not heard anyone say whether new formulas are being created- will later vaccines be exactly the same as earlier formulas, or are Pfizer and Moderna altering those try and keep up with changing strains?
LisaL
(44,973 posts)But the first booster is likely going to be just their regular vaccine.
BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)They can eventually request an EUA for their "modfied version" later but I think they are trying to get their originals "fully approved" without add-ons, although sometimes they are able to get an "amendment" to the approvals later for certain changes, depending on what the change is and how it might impact efficacy, adverse events, etc.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Don't care,DIE you asshats DIE!!
larwdem
(758 posts)maybe I will get 6 G on my phone now
k0rs
(72 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 19, 2021, 10:11 AM - Edit history (1)
I received my booster shot tonight! I stopped in a Walmart to ask if they had heard when they will begin to administer boosters. The pharmacist said next month unless I had a qualifying condition. I replied "I think that's me," as I take an immuno-suppressant drug. He asked me what I take and I told him. He said "Yep, you qualify, do want it now?" Do I want it now??!! Hell, yeah!
Turns out I was the very first booster shot that he gave! He wanted me to be sure to check back with him to let him know if I had any reactions. So far, so good, but it was only a couple of hours ago.
brer cat
(24,564 posts)I hope you don't have a bad reaction. Welcome to DU.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,320 posts)Did you get the Pfizer? I got the Moderna, but most people I know got the Pfizer. And welcome to DU, hope you're still feeling fine.
About 20 hours after my injection I began to feel tired and a little achy. Wife and I went out for Chinese last night and I really didn't have much of an appetite. I ate, just not as much as normal. The ice water and hot tea tasted good though. It's about 9 AM now, so roughly 36~37 hours after the injection. Everything pretty much back to normal. Working through morning coffee and looking forward to some breakfast. For the record it was a Moderna injection as were my first two in January and February. Thanks for the welcome and kind concern!
gopiscrap
(23,760 posts)dalton99a
(81,485 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)And the Committee unanimously voted to approve their offiicial statement for recommendation for the Pfizer vaccine for individuals 16 and older. They also started discussing the "booster" (in quotes because some think using the term "booster" for a 3rd vaccine shot is misleading) framework.
I posted this in another thread - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2793245
(I have it on a little convertible laptop that I have used to stream them in the past and when they were done, I would just stop the stream and just minimize that browser window... And interestingly, when they have their next meeting, the new stream suddenly auto-starts the stream in that browser window, so out of nowhere I'll suddenly start hearing people talking while the laptop is on the lockscreen and am like WTF? )
Anyway - the have a biggy going on right now that started at 10 am EDT (must be at least 50 people on it, including liason reps from HHS OPDIVs, the Vaccine-related Committee members, a pile of independent hospital/medical organization reps, a bunch of medical/pharmaceutical industry reps - all on this telecon) - https://www.ustream.tv/channel/VWBXKBR8af4
The agenda is to look at the data pre-post Pfizer full approval and apparently discuss the boosters.
One of the working group slide decks they presented at the beginning of the meeting included this slide (relevant to the OP) -
I think that slide says it all regarding the vaccines. It's not saying the people who are vaccinated aren't contracting it nor does it say that some are not being hospitalized, but it is stark about who IS being hospitalized to a very high degree.
The axis is X = time (since availability of the vaccine) and Y = rate of hospitalizations per 100,000.
That slide was (taken as a snapshot) from here - https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-08-30/01-COVID-Daley-508.pdf (PDF)
Link to all the slide decks that will be presented today - https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/slides-2021-08-30.html