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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,985 posts)
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:39 PM Aug 2021

Progressives led by AOC call for Biden to replace Fed Chair Powell

Source: CNN

Progressive Democrats, including New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, are calling on President Joe Biden to give the Federal Reserve a sweeping makeover by replacing Jerome Powell as chairman.

"We urge President Biden to reimagine a Federal Reserve focused on eliminating climate risk and advancing racial and economic justice," the lawmakers said in a statement Tuesday morning.

In addition to Ocasio-Cortez, the statement was issued Reps. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, Mondaire Jones of New York and Chuy Garcia of Illinois, all members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

Powell, a Republican and former investment banker, was nominated to lead the powerful Federal Reserve by former President Donald Trump in 2017, who later sharply criticized his handpicked chairman. Powell's term as chair expires in February, and the White House has not said whether he will be reappointed.



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Progressives led by AOC call for Biden to replace Fed Chair Powell (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2021 OP
Along with Dejoy!! deizo Aug 2021 #1
Can't zipplewrath Aug 2021 #5
yes he can with cause! deizo Aug 2021 #14
I suggest you go back and re-read the cases you've cited. onenote Sep 2021 #31
The cases were about presidential power over exertive agencies deizo Sep 2021 #33
Ironically, it is the conservatives wing of the Court that wants the executive onenote Sep 2021 #41
Can quakerboy Sep 2021 #36
DeJoy is still head of the USPS because one Senator blocked four of Obama's appointments... George II Aug 2021 #6
My take on Powell and reappointment bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #2
No one will buy that. former9thward Sep 2021 #34
Um... lonely bird Aug 2021 #3
A few questions to those calling for Biden to replace Powell: George II Aug 2021 #4
Okay, some "answers" zipplewrath Aug 2021 #8
IOW, if those are their intentions, they want a new Chairman but can't specifically say why. George II Aug 2021 #11
Yes, they can zipplewrath Aug 2021 #13
Here is their statement. My previous comment stands. They want a new Chairman, but are unspecific.. George II Aug 2021 #15
Unspecific on purpose zipplewrath Aug 2021 #16
I am confused here. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #17
They will when they're "reimagined"! George II Aug 2021 #22
Nancy needs to have a meeting in her office for a civics lesson... NurseJackie Aug 2021 #24
Imagine that. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #26
Hmmmm, imagine that? George II Aug 2021 #28
The Fed does monetary policy, not industrial policy jmbar2 Aug 2021 #7
And now you understand "re-imagine" zipplewrath Aug 2021 #9
I need me some Temptations! George II Aug 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Sep 2021 #38
Exactly. You're more specific about why what they're implying (vaguely) can't or shouldn't be done. George II Aug 2021 #12
Thank you. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #18
it's a fairly big job stopdiggin Aug 2021 #27
I'm not sure that the members calling for this understand what the Fed does. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2021 #10
Actually zipplewrath Aug 2021 #19
Okay. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #29
That's hysterical. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #39
Powell's record of pursuing policies that lower inflation is admirable tirebiter Aug 2021 #20
so, you're saying - a functioning economy stopdiggin Aug 2021 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author tirebiter Aug 2021 #21
They can't be serious! Beastly Boy Aug 2021 #30
+100000000 betsuni Sep 2021 #32
Good post. brer cat Sep 2021 #37
Someone needs to inform Rep AOC of reality. Not that it ever matters. oldsoftie Sep 2021 #43
OMG! Some here want to retain the Trump puppet Sewa Sep 2021 #35
I think you're confused on which party generally supports easy monetary policy mathematic Sep 2021 #40
Powell was originally appointed to the Fed Board of Governors by Barack Obama in 2011. n/t Calista241 Sep 2021 #42
This is when you just smile and nod madville Sep 2021 #44
I don't see the President making a change in this case. roamer65 Sep 2021 #45
I'm not sure why EVERY person placed by tfg hasn't been removed. FlyingPiggy Sep 2021 #46
 

deizo

(59 posts)
1. Along with Dejoy!!
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:52 PM
Aug 2021

Why is Dejoy still the head of usps? He has given President Biden more than enough cause to fire him just like he did with social security!

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
5. Can't
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:56 PM
Aug 2021

The board is the only entity that can, and they are still dominated by Trump appointees. It's close though. One more appointment by Biden and then Dejoy can be gone.

 

deizo

(59 posts)
14. yes he can with cause!
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:20 PM
Aug 2021

thanks to the supreme court COLLINS ET AL. v. YELLEN & Seila Law LLC v. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau


A democrat a think he name is Bloom he is trump appointee he is just registered as democrat that is why the board hasn't been able to get rid of him

onenote

(42,702 posts)
31. I suggest you go back and re-read the cases you've cited.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 12:42 AM
Sep 2021

Neither one involved an agency head who is appointed by a board of directors, not the President. In fact the Court made clear it was focusing only on the factual situation before it -- the power of the president to fire an agency headed by single person (not a commission) who is appointed by the President with Senate confirmation.

 

deizo

(59 posts)
33. The cases were about presidential power over exertive agencies
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 12:59 AM
Sep 2021

the sc. didn't answer ether way on what agencies the president can or can not unilaterally act but with those two cases I would say try it!

onenote

(42,702 posts)
41. Ironically, it is the conservatives wing of the Court that wants the executive
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 11:55 AM
Sep 2021

to have unfettered "at will" termination authority.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
36. Can
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:29 AM
Sep 2021

Board members can be fired.

If a president wanted to get rid of a corrupt person like dejoy.

Have we heard Biden say he wants dejoy out yet?

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. DeJoy is still head of the USPS because one Senator blocked four of Obama's appointments...
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:01 PM
Aug 2021

....to the Board in 2016, a few months before he left office.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
2. My take on Powell and reappointment
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:53 PM
Aug 2021

Powell is where he is because he serves banks' interests. He is an old time Fed Chair, more in line with Greenspan than Bernanke. I think he was a terrible choice for Fed Chair. It's not that I want the Fed to adopt a progressive agenda - they really don't have political policy tools to any extent at all - it's that they're serving banks, billionaires, and bubbles more than they're serving the financial system. They created these bubbles. Powell has been Bernanke on steroids. I think it reckless to feed housing and stock bubbles at the same time.

Yet we're stuck with Powell. I believe he will be reappointed because he owns the blame for the consequences of the Reckless Monetary Decade. If Biden replaces him, Biden will own it. Far easier to let the blame fall on Powell, and by implication, the man who appointed him the first time - TFG.

lonely bird

(1,685 posts)
3. Um...
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:53 PM
Aug 2021

No.

The ability to completely alter the entrenched institutions does not exist with the Fed. It takes congressional action as well as a massive PR campaign.

This concept is on a direct collision course with deeply held theomythology.

It is not that Powell needs to go. That is symptomatic. The cancer is far deeper.

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. A few questions to those calling for Biden to replace Powell:
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:55 PM
Aug 2021

1. Do they have someone in mind to replace Powell, or do they just want someone different?
2. Do they understand that it's not the function of the Federal Reserve to "eliminate climate risk"?
3. Do they understand that it's also not the function of the Federal Reserve to "advance racial justice"?
4. Is there anything specific that they'd like a new Chairman to do - specific, not vague concepts - with the Federal Reserve?
5. Finally, just what does "reimagine the Federal Reserve" actually mean?

Many on both sides of the aisle think that Powell has done a very good job under the circumstances during his term as Chairman under trump.

Generally when one calls for changes of leadership, they have something in mind other than just changing leadership. Just what are they looking for a new Chairman to do?

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
8. Okay, some "answers"
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:07 PM
Aug 2021
1. Do they have someone in mind to replace Powell, or do they just want someone different?


Yes and no. It's a bit of Washington inside the beltway politics. If a replacement is named, it becomes person A versus B. By calling for a replacement, it leaves the discussion as whether the current occupant is good enough.

2. Do they understand that it's not the function of the Federal Reserve to "eliminate climate risk"?


But they can have SOME role, however small.

3. Do they understand that it's also not the function of the Federal Reserve to "advance racial justice"?


Not sure I'd agree with that. They have been involved in the past in promulgating/tolerating racial injustice, so they can be involved in advancing the reverse. At the very least they should be on the lookout for things like redlining and addressing it in some way when they find it.

4. Finally, just what does "re-imagine the Federal Reserve" actually mean?


Well, roughly what you AREN'T doing. That is, to assume and assert that its current mission is all that it should/can do and in fact imagine what it could/should do.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
13. Yes, they can
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:14 PM
Aug 2021

They just don't want the discussion to be about possible replacements, just upon the results being achieved by the current incumbent.

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. Here is their statement. My previous comment stands. They want a new Chairman, but are unspecific..
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:20 PM
Aug 2021

...about why or what a new Chairman should do.

STATEMENT: Reps. AOC, Tlaib, Pressley, García & Jones Urge Biden to Replace Powell as Federal Reserve Chair

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley, Mondaire Jones and Jesús G. “Chuy” García are releasing a statement urging President Biden to appoint a new Federal Reserve Chair rather than reappoint Jerome Powell. The full statement follows.

“As news of the possible reappointment of Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell circulates, we urge President Biden to re-imagine a Federal Reserve focused on eliminating climate risk and advancing racial and economic justice. This consequential appointment has the potential to remake the composition of the Board of Governors. While the Federal Reserve has made positive changes to its approach to full employment reflected in the new monetary policy framework, our concerns with Chair Powell’s track record are two-fold. Under his leadership the Federal Reserve has taken very little action to mitigate the risk climate change poses to our financial system. To illustrate, the Federal Reserve received a D- rating for its approach to climate risk policies from Positive Money’s Global Central Bank Scorecard, placing it at the bottom of the G20 Central Banks. At a time when the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is warning of the potential catastrophic and irreversible damage inflicted by a changing climate, we need a leader at the helm that will take bold and decisive action to eliminate climate risk. Secondly, under Chair Powell the Federal Reserve has substantially weakened many of the reforms enacted in the wake of the Great Recession regulating the largest banks, including capital and liquidity requirements, stress tests, the Volcker Rule, and living will requirements. During the 2008-financial crisis, millions of Americans lost their homes and jobs, and many have failed to fully recover. Weakening financial regulations that were specifically created to prevent such a disaster from happening again, risks the livelihoods of Americans across the country. To move forward with a whole of government approach that eliminates climate risk while making our financial system safer, we need a Chair who is committed to these objectives. We urge the Biden Administration to use this opportunity to appoint a new Federal Reserve Chair.”

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zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
16. Unspecific on purpose
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:23 PM
Aug 2021

to keep the conversation about the goals, and not the person (since there isn't any single one).

jmbar2

(4,886 posts)
7. The Fed does monetary policy, not industrial policy
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:02 PM
Aug 2021

Fed key responsibilities
- Conducting the nation's monetary policy by influencing money and credit conditions in the economy in pursuit of full employment and stable prices.

- Supervising and regulating banks and other important financial institutions to ensure the safety and soundness of the nation's banking and financial system and to protect the credit rights of consumers.

- Maintaining the stability of the financial system and containing systemic risk that may arise in financial markets.

- Providing certain financial services to the U.S. government, U.S. financial institutions, and foreign official institutions, and playing a major role in operating and overseeing the nation's payments systems.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_12594.htm

AOC is undermining her credibility with statements like this.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
9. And now you understand "re-imagine"
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:08 PM
Aug 2021

Asserting that the fed CAN'T be something different than it currently is, is exactly the opposite of re-imagining.

Response to George II (Reply #23)

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. Exactly. You're more specific about why what they're implying (vaguely) can't or shouldn't be done.
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:13 PM
Aug 2021

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
27. it's a fairly big job
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 09:25 PM
Aug 2021

in and of itself.

And - there is ample reason for building in a certain amount of independence and distance ...

greatauntoftriplets

(175,735 posts)
10. I'm not sure that the members calling for this understand what the Fed does.
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:10 PM
Aug 2021

And who do they think should replace Powell?

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
19. Actually
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:25 PM
Aug 2021

They are suggesting that the fed should be doing something other than what they are currently doing.

tirebiter

(2,536 posts)
20. Powell's record of pursuing policies that lower inflation is admirable
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:35 PM
Aug 2021

Inflation kills socialism. Janet Yellman, a Keynesian economist, needs Fed policies that hold down inflation. Programs that deal with climate change need inflation minimized.

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
25. so, you're saying - a functioning economy
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 09:17 PM
Aug 2021

actually has a place in furthering social justice goals .. ?

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but, but ... that is so .. pedestrian!

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Beastly Boy

(9,342 posts)
30. They can't be serious!
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:33 PM
Aug 2021

If their statement has been reported accurately, I am totally blown away over how misinformed it is.

Biden cannot "reimagine" the Fed. He is prohibited by law from doing so. Likewise, the Fed cannot "reimagine" their mission, which is written, in great detail, into law. The Fed is being regularly audited to make sure no "reimagining" takes place. Only Congress can make changes in laws that govern the Fed. Are the aforementioned lawmakers aware that it is THEIR job, and not Biden's,to "reimagine" the Fed? Doesn't appear so!

Furthermore, if hell freezes over and the progressives led by AOC manage to muster enough support among their colleagues to change the law and mandate the Fed to move in the desired direction without creating conflicts with the Fed's previously defined missions, Biden can only remove the Fed Chair for "good cause". It is also against the law for Biden to reimagine away the limits of his powers.

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
43. Someone needs to inform Rep AOC of reality. Not that it ever matters.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:52 PM
Sep 2021

Remember when Trump had to be told he couldnt just replace the Chairman?
SHE should remember

Sewa

(1,255 posts)
35. OMG! Some here want to retain the Trump puppet
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 02:15 AM
Sep 2021

as Fed Chairman. Biden should have politely asked him to step down a few months ago.

Powell has been terrible, caving in to Trump not to raise interest rates. When the economy was clearly overheating.

Any Fed Chairman that would surrender their independence over a tweet isn’t fit to hold the position.

Show this man the door ASAP

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
40. I think you're confused on which party generally supports easy monetary policy
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 09:48 AM
Sep 2021

So I'll tell you: it's ours.

Keeping rates low in order to get full employment at the risk of more inflation is what Yellen's done, it's what's Powell's done, and it's 100% what the progressive critics of Powell want done too.

madville

(7,410 posts)
44. This is when you just smile and nod
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 04:28 PM
Sep 2021

and say "That's nice". If our monetary policy and such was left up to that group we'd be like Venezuela within a few years.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
45. I don't see the President making a change in this case.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 04:40 PM
Sep 2021

I think he will re-nominate Powell, if he has the support of Secretary Yellen.

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