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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 04:02 PM Sep 2021

Andrew Yang's new 3rd party will be called 'The Forward Party,' according to his forthcoming book

Source: Business Insider

After coming up short in his presidential and New York City mayoral bids, Andrew Yang has settled on a name for his new third party.

"The Forward Party" is named in the final chapter of Yang's forthcoming book, "Forward: Notes on the Future of Our Democracy," a copy of which was obtained by Insider.

A source close to Yang and familiar with the plans confirmed the party's existence to Insider on Sept. 10, but the Yang confidante was unable to disclose the name.

Yang outlines six "key principles" behind his party, which will need to be registered state-by-state.
"Ranked-choice voting and open primaries."
"Fact-based governance."
"Human-centered capitalism."
"Effective and modern-day government."
"Universal Basic Income."
"Grace and Tolerance."



Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-yang-new-3rd-party-name-forward-party-book-2021-9
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Andrew Yang's new 3rd party will be called 'The Forward Party,' according to his forthcoming book (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2021 OP
It will be a flop. LiberalFighter Sep 2021 #1
New book? Is this "new party" a way to get attention to his book? Bev54 Sep 2021 #17
Gee that's original ColinC Sep 2021 #2
Should have called it the Stumble Drunk Party rpannier Sep 2021 #36
Guessing it will pull votes away from the Democrats? left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #3
Most likely Rebl2 Sep 2021 #11
I hope this goes nowhere. It can only divert Democratic votes. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2021 #4
Ranked choice voting is the key questionseverything Sep 2021 #5
Yes. The system is rigged against 3rd parties. Without something like ranked choice... PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #7
Or, untried candidates can harness ignorance and confusion Hortensis Sep 2021 #28
Keep the ego alive. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #6
Should have done like Liebermann rpannier Sep 2021 #37
Well, at least he'll be assured of their presidential nomination. calguy Sep 2021 #8
Open primaries, wouldn't it be kick if he lost the primaries for his party? marie999 Sep 2021 #12
send $$ nt msongs Sep 2021 #9
THIS ⬆️ $$$ Does he have his 501C4 PAC running? Budi Sep 2021 #10
I have lost all respect for this man. Mickju Sep 2021 #13
Same here. Owl Sep 2021 #35
The Ahn Cheol Soo of the United States rpannier Sep 2021 #38
Interesting SmittyWerben Sep 2021 #14
This means he no longer is a Democrat, just another loser JohnSJ Sep 2021 #15
Nader, Stein, Turner, Yang... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #16
Good one jackie JohnSJ Sep 2021 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Sep 2021 #18
You think... he is... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #25
Let the fundraising begin dlk Sep 2021 #19
This guy..... Sapient Donkey Sep 2021 #21
I have another name for it... Mawspam2 Sep 2021 #22
Oh, yes. Divide progressives into two parties. That always works. n/t pnwmom Sep 2021 #23
He will get Republican money Wolf Frankula Sep 2021 #24
Exactly. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #26
Isn't there already a large organized party he could work within to promote his ideas and concepts? NBachers Sep 2021 #27
Thumbs Way down ToxMarz Sep 2021 #29
Instant pariah OneCrazyDiamond Sep 2021 #30
He should call it the "crumbs for the peasants" party. Crowman2009 Sep 2021 #31
Instead of "Forward march!!!!" it'll be "Forward party!!!!!" Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 #32
Maybe he'll pull in the Rogan voters rpannier Sep 2021 #39
Ugh. ShazzieB Sep 2021 #33
"Ranked-choice voting and open primaries." --- NO! NurseJackie Sep 2021 #34
I may be wrong but... lonely bird Sep 2021 #40
Was the "Vanity Party" already taken? How out the "Ego Party" FSogol Sep 2021 #41
Seeing the Backside of the Forward Party LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #42

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
36. Should have called it the Stumble Drunk Party
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 09:29 AM
Sep 2021

Because that's probably about what it'll amount to

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
5. Ranked choice voting is the key
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 04:09 PM
Sep 2021

Then 3 rd parties can push their ideas into the main stream without being a “spoiler “ party

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
7. Yes. The system is rigged against 3rd parties. Without something like ranked choice...
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 04:23 PM
Sep 2021

there isn't any realistic hope for one.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Or, untried candidates can harness ignorance and confusion
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:33 PM
Sep 2021

of well meaning voters to use ranked choice to become a spoiler, perhaps even competitive!, by drawing off votes from Democrats, and to harness the hostile passions of LW authoritarians, RWers, and antgonistic populist ttypes to enable them flood into Democratic elections to defeat Democratic candidates.

Remember the horrible mistakes of 2016? They're still devastating our nation and could still kill our democracy, and with it purge progressivism from government. For possiby the rest of our lives. A RW police state full of poor, oppressed, exploited people, would be a very inadequate replacement for national healthcare and taxpayer-funded universal K-12 education. (Yes, that's in danger.)

Or just look at Kyrsten Sinema. She developed a public identity by starting in the Green (a third) Party, drawing a lot of people who'd vote for a bag of potpourri if it ran against Democrats, displayed some conservative but little known attitudes, and persuaded Democrats who didn't do their homework/were drawn to "outsider," nonestablishment candidates to reject Democrats with proven records to elect her. (To the county commission? No -- as one of their 2 U.S. SENATORS! ). Now she's taking money from Big Pharm and trying to keep us from adding medications with price controls to Medicare. This would NOT have happened if they'd elected a legislator with a proven record in office, instead of a deceiver. HUGE lesson.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
10. THIS ⬆️ $$$ Does he have his 501C4 PAC running?
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 04:36 PM
Sep 2021

501C4 IS the PAC of choice anymore. Everyone's got one & no one can peer inside.
501C4 is the notorious dark money PAC, btw.

SC decision opened the door to Citizen's United

SNIP

2020 Election Year Issues: 501(c)(4) Organizations and Dark Money
August 10, 2020
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP
Kenneth A. Gross Ki P. Hong Matthew Bobys Melissa L. Miles Charles M. Ricciardelli Tyler Rosen Theodore R. Grodek Shayla K. Parker

**********

With the 2020 election campaign in full swing despite the COVID-19 pandemic, companies are facing a variety of both typical and unique challenges regarding political law compliance. This is the third in a series of mailings discussing political law issues that take on greater importance during a presidential election year.

In the decade since the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision, politically active nonprofits organized under Section 501(c)(4) of the Internal Revenue Code (IRC) have played an ever-increasing role in politics. 501(c)(4) organizations may accept unlimited corporate and personal donations and engage in political activity, such as by making independent expenditures, doing so in most jurisdictions without disclosing their donors. These organizations are common and can be aligned with either party, certain interest groups and even government officials or candidates at the federal level and in many states. Although the lack of donor disclosure can make this organizational structure appealing to many donors, 501(c)(4)s also can present significant legal and compliance risk, as recently seen in the indictment of the speaker of the Ohio House of Representatives, certain of his associates and the 501(c)(4) organization they controlled.

Under the IRC, a 501(c)(4) is a nonprofit organization that must be primarily engaged in “social welfare” activities, and also may engage in political activity, as long as such political activity is not the organization’s primary activity.
However, the Internal Revenue Service has not clarified how to determine whether political activity is an organization’s primary activity, making it common for 501(c)(4) organizations to engage in significant political activity. As such, beyond the tax status, one must take a holistic approach when considering other laws that may apply to such organizations.
MORE..
2020 Election Year Issues: 501(c)(4) Organizations and Dark Money
August 10, 2020
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP


https://www.skadden.com/insights/publications/2020/08/2020-election-year-issues

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
38. The Ahn Cheol Soo of the United States
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 09:38 AM
Sep 2021

He (Ahn) started as a tech guy running an anti-virus software company (that bears his name -- Ahn Labs)
Ran for president as a liberal
Quit the Party and created his own centrist party
Then in 2017 ran for President as a right of center candidate
Then merged with a right-wing party to create a new party and moved further to the right
Quit that party and formed a new right-wing party

The only difference between Ahn and Yang that I can see, is that Ahn has actually won political office -- he has been in the National Assembly (congress)
He's run for President twice -- lost twice and may run again. Though his buddy relationship with the main opposition party (a right-wing party) may cause him to sit the 2022 election out.
I think he'll run -- his ego demands it

SmittyWerben

(823 posts)
14. Interesting
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 05:08 PM
Sep 2021

All that feely goody language but not one word on the real problem with our political system: the Electoral College. Most of his key principals are thwarted by an electoral system that rewards the minority with an inordinate amount of power. Lets champion 1 person 1 vote, free from obstruction and disenfranchisement. Lets make government work for all, not just some. And lets rebalance the relationship between the workers, management and ownership to what it was when this country had a strong middle class. "Fact-based governance, effective and modern-day government, grace and tolerance"...sounds like a junior high school student running for student council.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. Nader, Stein, Turner, Yang...
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 05:28 PM
Sep 2021

... looking for the grift and malcontent suckers who are willing to throw their money into the toilet... $3 and $27 at a time.

Response to JohnSJ (Reply #15)

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
21. This guy.....
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 07:06 PM
Sep 2021

I really did like him and was glad he made it to the debates, and I even wished him well during his NYC mayoral attempt, but I am not digging the route he is going now.

I suppose one thing is that if this becomes a thing it will take votes from both sides….or maybe it won’t. I don’t know. Blah.

ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
29. Thumbs Way down
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:50 PM
Sep 2021

We don't need a third party right now to divide our vote, the Repukes are begging for it. I am really starting to think Yang is more about himself than the ideas he espouses or what purpose does this serve NOW.

ShazzieB

(16,426 posts)
33. Ugh.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 02:30 AM
Sep 2021

And to think I used to like this guy.

He was never my choice for the Dem nomination, but I really did like him. This, though...no. Just no.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
34. "Ranked-choice voting and open primaries." --- NO!
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 07:43 AM
Sep 2021


He's a loser who can't work well with others. He's no better than Ralph Nader, Jill Stein, Nina Turner and any number of other sore-losers who refuse to be a part of the Democratic party... who stomp their little feet, kick sand, and vow to take their toys home and shout: "I'm better than you! I hate you! I'll never play with you again!"

He's just another malcontent who can't accept loss and who refuses to work within the system. He's throwing himself a pity-party because the voters rejected his ideas. He wants revenge. He wants to be a spoiler. He wants to be able to freely kneecap the Democratic nominee without having to moderate his language or demeanor. Brace yourselves for more vulgar "bowl-of-shit" types of comments and "Coastal Elite" types of insults.

He's not a Democrat? He's working AGAINST Democrats? --- FUCK HIM!!

lonely bird

(1,687 posts)
40. I may be wrong but...
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 09:48 AM
Sep 2021

A parliamentary form of government lends itself to multiple parties. Our alleged system especially with the explosive growth of dark money lends itself to two parties. A third party will not gain traction unless the entire system is changed.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
41. Was the "Vanity Party" already taken? How out the "Ego Party"
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:18 PM
Sep 2021

He's just a friendlier version of "only I can fix this"

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,321 posts)
42. Seeing the Backside of the Forward Party
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 09:55 PM
Aug 2022

I have never been impressed with Andrew Yang nor have I have never understood his appeal. He has no real platform or political accomplishments, The Forward Party appears to be a scam that really is only designed to help TFG



https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/forward-party-andrew-yang-trump/

haven’t written about the Forward Party, founded by the adrift Yang, who ran for president as a Democrat, ran for New York mayor as a Democrat, failed spectacularly at both, and then decided the problem wasn’t him or his politics or his communication skills—it was the Democratic Party.

He found two older, retired Republicans, former Florida representative David Jolly and former New Jersey governor Christine Todd Whitman, to give him bipartisan cover for what is essentially an attack on Democrats. Because the law of third-party dynamics is: The party the new group is closest to is the party that will suffer if the new group gathers mass. Obviously, that party is the Democrats.

Yang’s sympathetic Trump tweet reminds us that third-party dreams are usually the essence of bothsidesism. Both sides are too extreme; we alone can fix it. Yang’s attempt to vocalize what “millions of Americans” will see as “unjust persecution” is typical for a third-party leader.

Worse, though, is the fact that everyone who covers the far right is seeing growing threats of violence in response to the Mar-a-Lago raid. In his efforts to stay in power, the former president has obviously broken the law. But he and his minions clearly believe that he is above the law and that there is no legitimacy to whatever case the Justice Department might be assembling. There is informed speculation that the raid was to retrieve serious national security documents.

For Yang to even glancingly endorse the notion that the FBI might have unfairly targeted Trump is just one more log on the fire of violent white nationalist extremism. I’m sure he didn’t mean it that way. I’m pretty sure he didn’t know what he meant. The Forward Party is already in my rearview mirror.
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