New York mother, son arrested in theft of Pelosi's laptop
Source: Associated Press
ANCHORAGE, Alaska A New York mother and son have been charged with theft in aiding the disappearance of House Speaker Nancy Pelosis laptop during the Jan. 6 insurrection after the FBI initially raided a home 4,500 miles away in Alaska, looking for the computer.
The FBI on Friday arrested Maryann Mooney-Rondon, 55, and her son, Rafael Rondon, 23, of Watertown, New York, in connection with the stolen laptop, according to court documents. Both also face other charges related to the riot at the Capitol.
Rafael Rondon also faces possession of an unregistered sawed-off shotgun charge
Both appeared in federal court Friday in Syracuse, New York, and released pending further proceedings, according to a statement from the U.S. Attorneys Office for the Northern District of New York.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/new-york-mother-son-arrested-in-theft-of-pelosis-laptop/2021/10/04/543f6dd6-2556-11ec-8739-5cb6aba30a30_story.html
Justice matters.
(6,929 posts)SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)Looks like a felony from here.
Pobeka
(4,999 posts)Response to Pobeka (Reply #2)
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The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Strikes me a bit strange....
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)Wonder if there are dads/husbands in these homes. Seems not, or they are never mentioned. Moms subject to delusions of underground maga-worshippers.
ShazzieB
(16,396 posts)Dad was pastor of an evangelical church, and Sonny Boy was assistant pastor or something of that sort.
I'm trying to remember what state they were from, but that particular memory is refusing to be retrieved at the moment. It'll probably surface about 20 minutes after I post this.
thenelm1
(854 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,058 posts)Male children not able to separate emotionally from mother?
Partners is crime.
Would be interesting to compare them to any adult male child/ male parent duos at the insurrection.
Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)The MAGA crowd was a stew of mental illness, mania and dysfunction.
Jim__
(14,076 posts)Link to tweet
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Traildogbob
(8,739 posts)thenelm1
(854 posts)Traildogbob
(8,739 posts)Parenthood without planning.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Well, for a fucking asshole insurrectionist, you know.
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)Jim__
(14,076 posts)Apparently he is also charged with stealing that.
Escape hoods:
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,985 posts)marble falls
(57,083 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)They should have just crossed over to Russia; they'd be at home there.
marble falls
(57,083 posts)I was in Anchorage last month and we went blueberry picking pretty close to her home.
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)That's a laptop belonging to the Speaker of the House. And I thought the original charge last Feb was for a young woman from PA who tried to sell it to Russia. Or am I misremembering againsky?
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... I am also. I think they are two separate incidents. The laptops were in a conference room for general use, so they were not Pelosi's personal laptop. There are probably no serious national security implications.
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)Or they are minor or they are not willing to admit to them. But the crime still reveals intent of some kind.
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)especially since they focused on the PA thief. From what was originally reported was that a conference room laptop had been taken (and I'm going to assume all it had was probably basic Powerpoint software on it plus anything needed to network it like some telecon software like WebEx or Adobe Connect, Zoom, etc).
The Pelosi laptop theft is new to me. They showed pics of that guy with his feet up on the desk in the Speaker's office with a computer monitor and keyboard and then I think there was a pic of him holding up a piece of her mail both inside and outside of the Capitol.
I know they have other offices in there and I think CSPAN even did a ditty on how they work it in the Capitol (vs those Congressional Office buildings) and I expect Pelosi has a different office where her staff might be vs the Speaker's Office. So it would be interesting to confirm where this other laptop actually was - the Speaker's Office or Pelosi's own regular office.
getagrip_already
(14,750 posts)Useless to anyone except pelosi and privileged admins until the keys are shredded, which would happen quickly after it being lost.
These require an electronic key to be inserted along with pw to unlock it. The key is embedded in their id's, which open locked doors and enable them to move around the campus; they are unlikely to be left behind.
The data would be inaccessible.
Intent could be anything, but it is grand theft at a minimum and probably a violation of patriot act sections if it contained sensitive info.
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)and yes, my agency's laptops were encrypted and access was generally limited to PIV card access through card readers that were built into the laptop... HOWEVER the contracted support personnel could access the laptop remotely if trouble-shooting was needed and with it being on the network, the IT staff routinely ran batched computer software updates across the organization (in a phased fashion) on that network.
I expect different agencies or at least all governmental entities might be using different encryption schemes/software (would probably need to be something HSPD-12 compliant because as far as I know, there is no single "Big Brother/federal government encryption software" that is the only thing that every single government computer has installed, so you have all sorts of products out there).
However that is generally the Executive Branch. One would think what Congress does would be similar but who knows how serious they are with that? They only started requiring magnetometer screening for members of the House (and only members of the House by a Rule that the GOP is still bitching about) after the January 6th insurrection, whereas most Executive Branch agencies either require magnetometer screening and PIV card use (whether through a card reader and/or showing to a contract guard) to gain access to facilities.
I know to get into my my office area, I had to use a PIV card and had a separate access card to actually get into the building itself from outside (it was a multi-agency building).
Theft of any government property - whether it is a pile of files on someone's desk or a laptop or a GOV is a serious offense in any case.
getagrip_already
(14,750 posts)Shortly after the theft was discovered. Remote access requires the device to be onlline from a privileged account with the encryption keys.
It can easily be disabled.
Anyone except Pelosi would have to connect back to gov servers to log in, which would be disabled even to an admin. And after a couple of failed attempts offline, neither could she. If the device came online for any reason, it would be remotely detected and locked.
I really doubt ma barker and her spawn could break into it. Even russia or china would have a hard time.
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)if they were doing "overnight" patches, was that we would log off with the machine still on. And the machines were not tied to a specific PIV - i.e., they allowed for windoze to establish the local user accounts so a login by staff to a different machine could happen.
I am not sure what special Administrator accounts were set up to be added to the images that were put on the machines (and I think the encryption stuff was done through modifications to the BIOS). But once new machines were all set up and distributed (and the IT staff did actually connect to our HQ through a special Admin account during the imaging and setup), they could be accessed remotely - apparently through connection to whatever special account was configured on the machine.
Nowhere did I say that someone actually succeeded in "breaking in" to that laptop (considering it's the first time I even heard about a "2nd laptop" ) but absent a true "hardened" laptop (and we had a few staff in our agency with them), they are not impenetrable - but obviously would be for amateurs like these two. As it is, my agency would routinely freak when someone on the road lost a laptop when a GOV was broken into.
There was an earlier issue with the original "conference room laptop" where that thief had supposedly attempted to sell it (not that there was anything on it as I noted) - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/capitol-rioter-plotted-sell-stolen-pelosi-laptop-russian-intelligence-n1254583
My issue was more with the fact that given the casual nature of our Legislative Branch when compared to the Executive Branch agencies - particularly with their offices - there is a bit of danger there more than elsewhere. You would hope that they had similar safeguards in place. But again, as we have seen with the casual nature of physical security at the Capitol with respect to members and their staff, one wonders... and obviously they are not going to come right out and reveal any exploitable loopholes. They would work on any and all corrective actions that might be needed behind the scenes.
I also just found this where Clyburn's iPad was stolen too - https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/01/08/clyburns-ipad-laptop-from-pelosis-office-items-stolen-destroyed-in-capitol-attack/?sh=5ba79a195963
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)I have to insert my access card and enter a PIN to unencrypt it before I can get to the menu where I have to enter a PIN to get to the main menu.
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)(I used to have to take some DOD courses where they had people login with PIV or CAC in fact, my agency used DFAS for payroll too)
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)I think you've mentioned before, but what agency were you with?
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)On a COVID task force. Interesting to see how civilian agencies are different from DoD.
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)I can imagine with the COVID-19 stuff. DOD is so logistics-oriented that the contract process is pretty expansive and dwarfs that in the civilian agencies.
I know that when HHS still had a bunch of agencies in Parklawn, the whole "3rd floor Conference level" hallway had a wall mural/display of the history of the 1918 pandemic. I guess one of these days, something like that will be replaced with the history of this current pandemic.
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)And his love of jet charters for business travel is in today's edition. Infuriating. He flew from Dulles to Philly....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/10/06/tom-price-hhs-charter-jets/
By Dan Diamond and Carol D. Leonnig
Today at 6:00 a.m. EDT
In April 2017, officials at the Department of Health and Human Services grappled with an urgent request: how to get Tom Price from D.C. to a conference at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Laguna Niguel, Calif., after bad weather delayed the secretarys planned flight aboard Delta Air Lines.
Secretary needs to go to LA today, and leave by 3 p.m., one travel specialist wrote in an April 6, 2017, email obtained by The Washington Post through a Freedom of Information Act request. The travel aide was seeking a colleague with access to a government purchasing card. Do you have someone who can PCard a charter aircraft on short notice?
Officials quickly secured a $29,000 charter flight which also had to be scuttled, as tornadoes plagued the D.C. region. But the days events left a scar on Prices top aides, who vowed that the Trump Cabinet official would never again wait on a commercial airlines schedule, and foreshadowed a five-month travel sprint in which the health department spent $456,000 in taxpayer money on Prices charter flights across the United States.
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)(you'll see most of my LBN OPs are from there or from the NYT)
I'll have to read that. I remember hearing all the news reports when that was happening with Price, prompting his departure (I had retired 2 weeks after the 2017 inauguration before he came in ).
But you might also recall what happened with Ben Carson and "furniture-gate" - https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/03/01/did-hud-really-need-spend-31-000-taxpayer-money-dining-furniture-ben-carson/384204002/
In our office, the procurement folks who ordered furniture had specific dollar limits and catalogs for a few GSA-approved places to get it from (often Staples ). Even with that, I know I had an old modular desk/bookcase unit and had to make due with it because there was never any money to replace it. I was just glad that the drawers weren't broken and at least had keys, and the mechanism for the sash that pulled down over the bookcase still worked.
I know every year we had to take "Ethics" training and the fear of every deity under the sun was put on us about procurements, "gifts", use of government credit cards and GOVs, and anything that could be considered "unethical", with all sorts of 5CFR citations to underscore it.
The previous administration truly believed that the federal government was nothing more than a "private business" and they acted as if it were one... and sadly in many cases, got away with it.
Tumbulu
(6,278 posts)I am so disheartened by the way the system is ignoring the monstrosity of the players large and small in this insurrection. And attempted coup.
What am I missing? How can our realities be so very different?
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts).... probably out on bail, though the article doesn't say that. According to the article, they seem to have helped someone else steal the laptop; they didn't run off with it themselves.
gab13by13
(21,337 posts)just gave a harsher sentence to an insurrectionist than our DOJ prosecutors asked for. The judge even commented that an assault on our democracy deserves more than being locked up at home.
No wonder people question our DOJ.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)No snap on the wrist. Give them 25 years.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)These dupes will suffer real consequences and Trump will die on a golden toilet.
hibbing
(10,098 posts)COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)What a family event that turns out to have been!!!
Now charge them with felonies and don't plead them down. Let them lose their precious right to bear arms, along with their right to vote and to ever work for the Government.