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BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 03:25 PM Oct 2021

FDA authorizes Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine for children 5 to 11

Source: Washington Post

Regulators on Friday authorized the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine for children 5 to 11 years old, a watershed moment celebrated by parents yearning for a return to normal life but viewed with ambivalence and outright skepticism by others worried about the potential risk of unknown side effects. The Food and Drug Administration’s emergency clearance is for a two-shot regimen administered three weeks apart.

The dose, 10 micrograms, is one-third that used for adolescents and adults. In a clinical trial of 5- to 11-year-olds, the vaccine was almost 91 percent effective at preventing covid-19, the illness caused by the virus, and did not cause any serious complications. The issue of safety, nevertheless, was a main focus of regulators and their advisers, partly because the vaccine has been linked to rare cases of cardiac side effects in another group — male adolescents and young men. The symptoms have tended to be mild and treatable, doctors say.

The FDA authorization is the latest step by the Biden administration to extend the reach of vaccines in hopes of taming a dangerous and vexing virus. The inoculation of adults, which began last December, recently entered a new phase, with booster shots for all three vaccines used in the United States available for many. About 28 million children are in the newly eligible group of 5- to 11-year-olds.But the process of getting vaccines cleared for younger school-age children has been fraught, with members of the FDA’s outside advisory committee expressing some angst and disagreements during a vociferous public debate this week.

In the end, the panel voted 17 to 0, with one abstention, to recommend the vaccine, agreeing with the FDA that the benefits outweighed the risks under most scenarios. The discussion about the shot is expected to resume Tuesday when the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, which advises the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is scheduled to meet to recommend how to use the vaccine. After CDC Director Rochelle Walensky signs off, probably on the same day, providers will be able to begin administering the vaccine.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/10/29/fda-approves-vaccine-for-kids/



What will be left now will be CDC's ACIP to discuss and vote on approval (they are scheduled November 2nd/3rd) and then the CDC Director sign-off, assuming the ACIP approves, and done.
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FDA authorizes Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine for children 5 to 11 (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2021 OP
Excellent! 👏👏👏👏 SheltieLover Oct 2021 #1
Hear, hear peppertree Oct 2021 #2
Magats down there too? SheltieLover Oct 2021 #4
Sure. They call them 'gorillas' down there. peppertree Oct 2021 #14
Poor kids SheltieLover Oct 2021 #15
And Cambridge Analytica peppertree Oct 2021 #16
Of course SheltieLover Oct 2021 #18
Great news. However, far too many parents will oppose it. olegramps Oct 2021 #17
Is this the vote that took place last Tuesday? rurallib Oct 2021 #3
Not sure. SheltieLover Oct 2021 #5
no, it was a vote on Pfizer rurallib Oct 2021 #6
Not sure then SheltieLover Oct 2021 #7
When they do the approval process BumRushDaShow Oct 2021 #8
Yes, thanks. So, when can we reasonably expect this vaccine to be fully blessed? rurallib Oct 2021 #9
I would think at most, by the end of next week BumRushDaShow Oct 2021 #10
thanks much rurallib Oct 2021 #11
You are welcome! BumRushDaShow Oct 2021 #13
Great news! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #12
That's really good news. Any word on when teens can get a booster? Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #19
I don't think they are considering under 18 for boosters BumRushDaShow Oct 2021 #20
Wow. Thanks so much Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #21
You are welcome! BumRushDaShow Oct 2021 #22
You're amazing. I hope you know that. I have two teens that got vaxxed in June. Wondering Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #23

peppertree

(21,635 posts)
2. Hear, hear
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 03:52 PM
Oct 2021

They've already given it to almost 2 million children aged 3 to 11 in Argentina (nearly one in three) - and not one serious adverse reaction has been reported.

And you know right-wing media down there has been looking high and low for any signs of "failure" (Faux News has nothing on them as far as viciousness).

peppertree

(21,635 posts)
14. Sure. They call them 'gorillas' down there.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:56 PM
Oct 2021

Mostly racist right-wingers upset that, like the U.S., Argentina isn't as "white" as it used to be.

And like our GOP, the 'gorilas' weren't known for being radicalized in the past - but are increasingly now.

But you're right: the important thing here is that children be protected - especially with a 54% child poverty rate.

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
3. Is this the vote that took place last Tuesday?
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 04:49 PM
Oct 2021

I can't get by the paywall, but I do remember that was 17 to 0 with 1 abstention.

Or is this different vote or group?

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
8. When they do the approval process
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:07 PM
Oct 2021

FIRST the vaccine committee (in this case, FDA's vaccine committee - "VRBPAC" ) discusses and votes to recommend approval or not - which is what they did last week. But then the FDA Commissioner (in this case, Acting Commissioner Janet Woodcock) can agree or disagree with the Committee's recommendation. She agreed - this is what this OP is about.

So now it goes to the CDC next week for a similar process - CDC's vaccine committee - "ACIP", which will do the same - discuss and vote to recommend (or not recommend), followed by the CDC Director agreeing or disagreeing and doing the final sign off if it is agreed upon.

Hope that makes sense!

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
9. Yes, thanks. So, when can we reasonably expect this vaccine to be fully blessed?
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:12 PM
Oct 2021

Would that be Tuesday? Or will there need to be yet some other approval after the CDC?

I got some 11 y/o skin in the game here.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
10. I would think at most, by the end of next week
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:22 PM
Oct 2021

Just looked at their draft agenda (they are meeting Tues. Nov. 2nd & Wed. Nov. 3rd) and they will be doing the COVID-19 vaccine discussion and I assume vote, during that Tuesday session.

So considering how quickly CDC Director Rochelle Walensky acted the last time (for the Moderna/Janssen (J&J) boosters), I wouldn't be surprised if she approved the pediatric vaccines by the next day - Wednesday (or even that Tuesday night).

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
13. You are welcome!
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:47 PM
Oct 2021


I got some grand-nieces/nephews as well as one of my youngest nephews, who are in that age group.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
20. I don't think they are considering under 18 for boosters
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 11:29 AM
Oct 2021

although earlier, one of the slides they put up last week showed Pfizer as a booster for 12 and up (however CDC eventually modified that guidance at some point) -



However on CDC's website (the latest as of Oct. 27, 2021) they have this - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/booster-shot.html


COVID-19 Vaccine Booster Shots
Updated Oct. 27, 2021

Some COVID-19 Vaccine Recipients Can Get Booster Shots

  • People 65 years and older, 50–64 years with underlying medical conditions, or 18 years and older who live in long-term care settings should receive a booster shot.
  • People 18 years and older should receive a booster shot at least 2 months after receiving their Johnson & Johnson/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine.


  • IF YOU RECEIVED
    Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna

    You are eligible for a booster if you are:


  • 65 years or older
  • Age 18+ who live in long-term care settings
  • Age 18+ who have underlying medical conditions
  • Age 18+ who work or live in high-risk settings


  • When to get a booster:
    At least 6 months after your second shot

    Which booster should you get?
    Any of the COVID-19 vaccines authorized in the United States



    IF YOU RECEIVED
    Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen

    You are eligible for a booster if you are:

  • 18 years or older


  • When to get a booster:
    At least 2 months after your shot

    Which booster should you get?
    Any of the COVID-19 vaccines authorized in the United States



    Choosing Your COVID-19 Booster Shot

    You may choose which COVID-19 vaccine you receive as a booster shot. Some people may have a preference for the vaccine type that they originally received, and others may prefer to get a different booster. CDC’s recommendations now allow for this type of mix and match dosing for booster shots.


    I think since they only recently started collecting data on the under 18 crowd, the jury is still out (I suppose barring a physician requesting it for a severely immuno-compromised adolescent for off-label use under strict medical care), and that is because they have a higher incidence of potentially experiencing a rare myocarditis reaction (which supposedly resolves for most who end up with that as an adverse event).

    BumRushDaShow

    (128,979 posts)
    22. You are welcome!
    Sat Oct 30, 2021, 12:55 PM
    Oct 2021


    I figure by the time they have enough data to eventually get around to submitting for the 6 months - 4 years old set, enough time may have passed to determine if a booster is actually going to be needed with the 5 and up group and if it is even tolerated.

    It's possible that since Pfizer has been using a smaller dosage of 10ug for the younger kids, they might end up considering using that amount as a booster for the adolescents 12-15, who are currently receiving a full 30ug dose for their initial 2-shots. I recall some discussion during one of the meetings about whether the smaller doses might be what is needed to mitigate issues with myocarditis in the younger individuals.

    Evolve Dammit

    (16,733 posts)
    23. You're amazing. I hope you know that. I have two teens that got vaxxed in June. Wondering
    Sat Oct 30, 2021, 02:10 PM
    Oct 2021

    when/if they need booster. Guess we have to wait, but hopefully CDC is on top of it. At least now we have adults in charge mostly...
    Thanks again

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