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George II

(67,782 posts)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 10:51 AM Nov 2021

House Narrowly Passes Biden's Social Safety Net and Climate Bill

Source: NY Times

Nov. 19, 2021, 9:49 a.m. ET
WASHINGTON — The House on Friday narrowly passed the centerpiece of President Biden’s domestic agenda, approving $2 trillion in spending over the next decade to battle climate change, expand health care and reweave the nation’s social safety net, over the unanimous opposition of Republicans.

The bill’s passage, 220 to 213, came after weeks of cajoling, arm-twisting and legislative legerdemain by Democrats. It was capped off by an exhausting, circuitous and record-breaking speech of more than eight hours by the House Republican leader, Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, that pushed a planned Thursday vote past midnight, then delayed it to Friday morning — but did nothing to dent Democratic unity.

Groggy lawmakers reassembled at 8 a.m., three hours after Mr. McCarthy finally abandoned the floor, to begin the final series of votes to send one of the most consequential pieces of legislation in half a century to the Senate.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi opened the final push with what she called “a courtesy to” her colleagues: “I will be brief.” She then put the House’s actions in lofty terms.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/19/us/politics/house-passes-reconciliation-bill.html



Of course the NY Times has to put a negative spin on the vote by adding "narrowly"!
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House Narrowly Passes Biden's Social Safety Net and Climate Bill (Original Post) George II Nov 2021 OP
effing NYT . ... Lovie777 Nov 2021 #1
+1 llmart Nov 2021 #4
Same here Karma13612 Nov 2021 #15
NPR refers to Jan 6 as "the riot". Enough said. NT SayItLoud Nov 2021 #47
Yup....nt Karma13612 Nov 2021 #52
same here. Used to listen to NPR all the time. Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #17
Fox did not show anything. True Blue American Nov 2021 #30
Was trying to find a non-paywall so you beat me BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #2
I'm sure Associated Press will have it soon, too. I just wish the NY Times would have indicated.... George II Nov 2021 #3
AP: Dems' sweeping social, climate bill passes divided House dalton99a Nov 2021 #9
Yes - the divisive headline, which is why I avoided it BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #26
AP had it but with a truly divisive headline BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #11
Seems like an accurate headline onenote Nov 2021 #34
Why not write it like the Washington Post did as their headline BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #37
How is stating the fact that the vote was divided onenote Nov 2021 #44
Because one headline actually focuses on WHAT was passed BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #46
As sports aficionados are wont to know: the margin of victory or defeat onenote Nov 2021 #48
Let me give you a relevant example then from the same NYT that the OP uses BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #49
And there are examples of Trump's victories being similarly described onenote Nov 2021 #53
Ahhh but are we not talking about AP (and the OP's NYT) BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #54
We lost 1 Dem and picked up 0 Republicans IronLionZion Nov 2021 #38
Compare and contrast with a DIFFERENT BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Nov 2021 #20
Vox explains it with no paywall IronLionZion Nov 2021 #35
Yes BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #39
Dems in array IronLionZion Nov 2021 #40
You got it! BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #42
You could leave out the narrowly here. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #5
LBN requires the exact headline from the source. TwilightZone Nov 2021 #7
What's LBN? I see headlines changed here all the time. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #10
Latest Breaking News - OPs must retain the original headline. George II Nov 2021 #14
The headlines might change here BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #29
legerdemain underpants Nov 2021 #6
Democratic Unity - YES!!! onetexan Nov 2021 #8
Any chance Senate passes it? Johnny2X2X Nov 2021 #12
So where are the mea culpas from those saying BBB was not going to pass the House once BIF passed? honest.abe Nov 2021 #13
Not only that, but five of the six "moderates" voted for the bill. Golden, in a far right district.. George II Nov 2021 #16
Good for them. honest.abe Nov 2021 #25
I'm pleasantly surprised my DINO actually said yes. calimary Nov 2021 #51
Don't worry, the goalposts will be moved presently nt AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2021 #19
I have to laugh. Karma13612 Nov 2021 #18
Agreed pandr32 Nov 2021 #27
Happy to hear this Marthe48 Nov 2021 #21
Who is the Rebl2 Nov 2021 #22
Yup, typical of The NY Times. Instead of simply house passes infrastructure bill, they add JohnSJ Nov 2021 #23
Most of them put a poison pill in their headlines BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #33
Narrowly is nice. dchill Nov 2021 #24
Congrats to Speaker Pelosi and House Dems for passing this much needed legislation. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2021 #28
Terrible Headline.... ashredux Nov 2021 #31
President Harris for a few hours! True Blue American Nov 2021 #32
Knew it was NYT as soon as I saw the headline mcar Nov 2021 #36
Good! Make the GOP senators vote on it and show their heartless colors! ananda Nov 2021 #41
Why do they have to phase it in the negative? It passed. That is the important thing. appleannie1 Nov 2021 #43
Not many hurrahs in this thread. Lasher Nov 2021 #45
I'm smiling TlalocW Nov 2021 #55
When Americans get the benefits and like them, Deminpenn Nov 2021 #56

llmart

(15,540 posts)
4. +1
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 10:55 AM
Nov 2021

I much prefer the Washington Post. I used to love the NY Times back in the day, but now they and NPR are on my list of news to ignore.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
15. Same here
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 11:15 AM
Nov 2021

In my opinion, NPR is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. They are more pervasive because you don’t need to pay a subscription to ingest their highly biased news.

BumRushDaShow

(129,124 posts)
2. Was trying to find a non-paywall so you beat me
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 10:53 AM
Nov 2021

WaPo -

House passes roughly $2 trillion spending package that would expand social benefits and fight climate change

By Tony Romm
Today at 9:46 a.m. EST

More than a year after President Biden clinched the White House on a pledge to “build back better,” House Democrats delivered on that promise, voting to approve more than $2 trillion in spending initiatives that would overhaul federal health care, education, climate, immigration and tax laws.

The measure adopted Friday amounts to a dramatic re-envisioning of the role of government in Americans’ daily lives. It sets aside in some cases historic sums to aid workers, families and businesses, seeking to rewire the very fabric of an economy still recovering from the financial devastation wrought by the coronavirus pandemic.

In bearing the name of the president’s 2020 campaign slogan, the successful 220 to 213 House vote on the Build Back Better Act marks the second legislative milestone for Democrats this month. It comes about two weeks after they joined with Republicans to finalize a separate, sweeping bill to improve the nation’s roads, bridges, pipes, ports and Internet connections, delivering long-sought infrastructure investments that Biden signed into law Monday.

But the more than $2 trillion bill, the final component in Biden’s broader economic agenda, still must survive an even tougher political slog in the days ahead. The House vote sends the tax-and-spending package next to the Senate, where moderates including Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) long have harbored skepticism about its price tag and policy scope — and could further seek to pare back its provisions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/11/19/house-spending-reconciliation-bill/

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. I'm sure Associated Press will have it soon, too. I just wish the NY Times would have indicated....
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 10:55 AM
Nov 2021

....the historic nature of this vote and bill instead of their needling "narrowly" characterization.

BumRushDaShow

(129,124 posts)
11. AP had it but with a truly divisive headline
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 11:11 AM
Nov 2021

Dems’ sweeping social, climate bill passes divided House


Am sick of their negative characterizations.

onenote

(42,715 posts)
34. Seems like an accurate headline
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 12:10 PM
Nov 2021

Every Democrat save one voted for it. Every Republican voted against it.

If that isn't 'divided', I don't know what is.



onenote

(42,715 posts)
44. How is stating the fact that the vote was divided
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 12:46 PM
Nov 2021

any more of a "characterization" of the bill than saying it would expand social benefits and fight climate change? Both are factual statements.

BumRushDaShow

(129,124 posts)
46. Because one headline actually focuses on WHAT was passed
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:07 PM
Nov 2021

instead of focusing on HOW it was passed (considering the House passes many bills by all sorts of margins)?

As sports officiandos are wont to say - "A 'W' is a 'W' no matter how the team got there". The "win" is not taken away because the score was 1 point apart and happened as a "buzzer beater" with 0:00 seconds left on the clock.

BumRushDaShow

(129,124 posts)
49. Let me give you a relevant example then from the same NYT that the OP uses
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 02:07 PM
Nov 2021

The "Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017" was passed using reconciliation in Congress in December 2017. Here was the NYT headline (along with excerpts) for both chambers -

House Passes Budget Blueprint, Clearing Path for Tax Overhaul

By Jim Tankersley and Thomas Kaplan

Oct. 26, 2017

WASHINGTON — The Republican race to overhaul the tax code broke into a sprint on Thursday, with House members narrowly clearing a budget blueprint that would allow a tax bill to pass Congress without any Democratic votes, and Senate leaders signaling that the bill could be introduced, debated and approved in both chambers by the end of November.

Those ambitions are already complicated by difficult math, both in terms of tax revenues and vote counts. The budget vote put those competing factors on display, with 20 Republicans defecting and the resolution narrowly passing, 216 to 212, in part over concerns about the possible elimination of a tax break that disproportionately benefits residents of high-tax states. A potential reduction in contribution limits for 401(k) retirement accounts also appears to be stoking an intraparty fight.

Neither the retirement issue nor the squabble over the deduction for state and local taxes was resolved on Thursday, but party leaders vowed to push ahead at an even faster pace than they had previously outlined. Representative Kevin Brady, Republican of Texas, the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, said his committee would introduce a bill on Nov. 1 and begin amending it on Nov. 6.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/26/us/politics/house-budget-blueprint-tax-cut.html


The actual House vote for the above was a NARROW 216 to 212, but that never made it into the headline.


Republican Tax Bill Passes Senate in 51-48 Vote

By Thomas Kaplan and Alan Rappeport

Dec. 19, 2017

WASHINGTON — Republicans took a critical step toward notching their first significant legislative victory since assuming full political control, as the House and Senate voted along party lines on Tuesday and into early Wednesday to pass the most sweeping rewrite of the tax code in decades.

The $1.5 trillion tax bill, which is expected to head to President Trump’s desk in the coming days, will have broad effects on the economy, making deep and lasting cuts to corporate taxes as well as temporarily lowering individual taxes.

The endeavor was not without hiccups, however, as three small provisions in the final tax bill agreed to by the House and Senate were found by the Senate parliamentarian to violate the budget rules that Republicans must follow to pass their bill through a process that shields it from a Democratic filibuster. As a result, the bill changed slightly in the Senate, and the House will now need to vote on it again since both chambers must approve identical legislation. Among the items that were deemed out of order was the title of the bill: the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

The approval of the bill in the House and Senate came over the strenuous objections of Democrats, who have accused Republicans of giving a gift to corporations and the wealthy and driving up the federal debt in the process.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/us/politics/tax-bill-vote-congress.html


Why didn't they say -

Republican Tax Bill Passes in a divided Senate


That was even narrower than the House vote that was literally a couple votes away from a failure, where you had "Republicans in disarray®," with 20 of them voting against it.

And here was AP's story for that tax cuts for the rich -

Tax bill clears Senate in big boost for Trump, GOP

By ALAN FRAM, MARCY GORDON and STEPHEN OHLEMACHER December 2, 2017


WASHINGTON (AP) — Republicans muscled the largest tax overhaul in 30 years through the Senate early Saturday, taking a big step toward giving President Donald Trump his first major legislative triumph after months of false starts and frustration on other fronts.“Just what the country needs to get growing again,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said in an interview after a final burst of negotiation closed in on a nearly $1.5 trillion package that impacts the breadth of American society.

He shrugged off polls finding scant public enthusiasm for the measure, saying the legislation would prove its worth. “Big bills are rarely popular,” he said. “You remember how unpopular ‘Obamacare’ was when it passed?”

Trump on Saturday tweeted his thanks to Senate and House Republicans as they now begin trying to reconcile differences in legislation passed by both chambers, a behind-closed-doors process that is expected to move swiftly. Trump is aiming to sign the tax package into law before Christmas. “Biggest Tax Bill and Tax Cuts in history just passed in the Senate,” he tweeted inaccurately. The overhaul is significant but far from the largest.

Presiding over the Senate, Vice President Mike Pence announced the 51-49 vote to applause from Republicans. Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., was the only lawmaker to cross party lines, joining the Democrats in opposition. The measure focuses its tax reductions on businesses and higher-earning individuals, gives more modest breaks to others and offers the boldest rewrite of the nation’s tax system since 1986.

https://apnews.com/article/north-america-donald-trump-us-news-ap-top-news-mitch-mcconnell-6a409d3266be46dcaa2f1267fd947a12


Nothing about "divided".

BumRushDaShow

(129,124 posts)
54. Ahhh but are we not talking about AP (and the OP's NYT)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 06:22 PM
Nov 2021


I have subs to WaPo, NYT, The Atlantic, The Philly Inquirer, The Philly Tribune, & Mother Jones, and The Nation (and some mags like Nat Geo).

The problem - particularly with AP, is that they feed most of the smaller media markets and their print/broadcast outlets (I used to work at my college radio station years ago as an example, and we had AP's teletype and audio feed service that we would use for our news broadcasts). And once AP runs with something, it gets spread far and wide fairly rapidly (like you see social media doing today). So when they DO skew their headlines, away it goes nationwide.

IronLionZion

(45,460 posts)
38. We lost 1 Dem and picked up 0 Republicans
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 12:16 PM
Nov 2021

Jared Golden (D-ME) voted against

So it's a party line vote. Seems accurate.

BumRushDaShow

(129,124 posts)
50. Compare and contrast with a DIFFERENT
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 02:15 PM
Nov 2021

reconciliation bill - one that we all know about that was rammed through in 2017 - Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2828944

(where the first go-around, the GOP had 20 of their House members vote AGAINST it for the initial version and 12 of their House members vote AGAINST it for the final version after the "divided Senate" made changes)

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BumRushDaShow

(129,124 posts)
39. Yes
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 12:19 PM
Nov 2021

But when it comes to LBN, it's getting the "breaking" one up and posted asap - particularly one with at least parts of a story written and ready to go at the earliest possible time (and not just 1-liners before they finally update it with some more).

BumRushDaShow

(129,124 posts)
29. The headlines might change here
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 11:58 AM
Nov 2021

if the original article's headline was changed by the source outlet when their story was updated or if someone decided to pick a different source (which would usually have a different headline).

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Not only that, but five of the six "moderates" voted for the bill. Golden, in a far right district..
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 11:16 AM
Nov 2021

...in Maine, was the lone Democratic Nay.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
25. Good for them.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 11:31 AM
Nov 2021

I was fairly certain they would vote yes for this. I am also optimistic Manchin and Sinema will now vote with us once it gets to the Senate.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
18. I have to laugh.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 11:20 AM
Nov 2021

They call a 7 vote margin “narrow”?

Maybe back a couple decades ago when there was bipartisanship on more stuff.

But, today, I would call a 3 vote margin narrow.

This was wide enuf to pass a ship thru.





Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
21. Happy to hear this
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 11:22 AM
Nov 2021

Knowing that there are so many people, animals, biomes, that will benefit.

Now, The VOTING RIGHTS ACT! And get dejoy out of the USPS

Happy Thanksgiving!

JohnSJ

(92,232 posts)
23. Yup, typical of The NY Times. Instead of simply house passes infrastructure bill, they add
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 11:28 AM
Nov 2021

Last edited Fri Nov 19, 2021, 12:36 PM - Edit history (1)

narrowly

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
28. Congrats to Speaker Pelosi and House Dems for passing this much needed legislation.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 11:57 AM
Nov 2021

Hoping the President and VP Harris can help ramrod this through the Senate and soon.

KY.......

ashredux

(2,606 posts)
31. Terrible Headline....
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 12:01 PM
Nov 2021

Surprised it wasn’t….” Weak democratic party crawls across the finish line barely getting the bill passed”

Or…” Weakened House Speaker barely survives and passes a dead on arrival bill going to the Senate“

mcar

(42,334 posts)
36. Knew it was NYT as soon as I saw the headline
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 12:14 PM
Nov 2021

This is a huge fcking deal, regardless of their negativity. Nancy Pelosi is the greatest speaker of the house of all time!

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
56. When Americans get the benefits and like them,
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 07:02 PM
Nov 2021

no one will remember if the law passed by 1 or 7 or 70 or 100 votes.

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