Top Southern Baptist official breaks pledge, endorses Romney
Source: Washington Post
Top Southern Baptist official breaks pledge, endorses Romney
21 minutes ago
By David Gibson| Religion News Service,
Breaking a longstanding personal pledge, Southern Baptist leader Richard Land has endorsed GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, saying next weeks election is the most important since Abraham Lincolns win in 1860 and he can no longer stay silent.
America is at a fork in the road and must choose between a President Barack Obama who wants to remake America in the model of a European welfare state and a Governor Mitt Romney who wants to restore a more economically vibrant and traditionally moral America, Land wrote in an Oct. 26 column in the Christian Post.
Land, who is executive editor of the independent Christian Post and the top public policy spokesman for the SBC, said the stark and revealing differences between the Republicans and Democrats on abortion rights and same-sex marriage guided his decision.
For Christians of traditional religious faith, there cannot be more fundamental issues than the protection of the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death and the defense of marriage as a divinely-ordained institution between one man and one woman, he wrote.
Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/top-southern-baptist-official-breaks-pledge-endorses-romney/2012/10/30/06e615e2-22c4-11e2-92f8-7f9c4daf276a_story.html
Nay
(12,051 posts)24601
(3,962 posts)attacking people with through IRS for expressing an opinion. And were you talking about all Southern Baptist Churches? That includes a lot of African American congregations.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)to lose their tax exemption.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"involve themselves in the political process..."
To what precise degree? And do we apply this standard to any tax-exempt organization which also express a political opinion, e.g., public charities?
What seems to be lost in the rush to tax churches for their political opinions, is that only the biggest, most lucrative churches will be able to afford it-- and take a wild guess as to which party those particular churches will support, and then take another wild guess as to which political party the poorer, inner-city and small suburban churches that would not be able to bear the tax support?
Ofttimes I think dogma supersedes thinking things through in a clear manner... especially in those who profess no dogma.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)A good friend of mine's a BJU survivor (her term, not mine), and wow have her tales of her post-college experience been an eyeopener about a lot of the baptists.
Cigar11
(549 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)"...choose between a President Barack Obama who wants to remake America in the model of a European welfare state and a Governor Mitt Romney who wants to restore a more economically vibrant and traditionally moral America,
Uhhhh, ya...right.
Asshole.
msongs
(67,413 posts)bocaoma
(23 posts)they are dangerous home schooler racists!
oldbanjo
(690 posts)FVZA_Colonel
(4,096 posts)but I know he find these people less than contemptable.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)Like this asshat would have supported Lincoln. Maybe he should look at how the South Baptist Convention came to be and how they reacted to the civil rights movement. It was largely a white supremacist church.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)supporter in 1860. Possibly Bell I guess. Never Douglas. And Lincoln oh my.
winstars
(4,220 posts)this election is important to him because the last time look what happened, slaves freed and all that...
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)needed saying.
Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)God wanted him to be President.
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On the day that George W. Bush was sworn into his second term as governor of Texas, friend and adviser Dr. Richard Land recalls Bush making an unexpected pronouncement.
"The day he was inaugurated there were several of us who met with him at the governor's mansion," says Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission. "And among the things he said to us was, 'I believe that God wants me to be president.'"
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/etc/synopsis.html
DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)I thing God is a pretty crappy Handicapper.
elbloggoZY27
(283 posts)Religion needs to stay out of politics but I support your Religious Beliefs and your followers. However, I support followers of their particular faith also.
This is what makes the United States great.
As far as the Presidential Elections I will do as I have done since I was able to vote.
Keep my vote totally private.
Robb
(39,665 posts)Land, who is white, said in an interview he has no regrets about his remarks. He said he understands why the case has touched a nerve among black leaders, but he also defended the idea that people are justified in seeing young black men as threatening: A black man is "statistically more likely to do you harm than a white man."
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,839 posts)While Land has been deeply involved in Republican politics for years, he has always vowed never to endorse a particular candidate. In July 2011, when it was reported that he was actively backing Texas Gov. Rick Perrys primary bid for the GOP nomination, Land issued a statement declaring I do not endorse candidates, and I have not and will not endorse Gov. Perry or any other candidate for that matter.
But Lands endorsement which he said he was making as a private citizen also comes with significant baggage.
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They included racially-charged comments that Land made on his radio show about the Trayvon Martin shooting case, as well as evidence that he was lifting some of his program scripts from other sources without attribution. The controversies resulted in an official reprimand, the loss of his radio talk show and led to the announcement of his retirement.
uwbadgerdem
(40 posts)That's as big of a joke as "Ohio is a Dead Heat" and "Mittmentum."
byeya
(2,842 posts)amounts to the terrorist arm of this sect.
The KKK not only terrorized African Americans but ran Jews and Roman Catholics out of the rural areas as far north as Indiana and Ohio.
24601
(3,962 posts)African American to hold the position. Interesting definition of racism you have.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,839 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)doubt the real beliefs of anyone who calls them selves "Christians." Had Obama been a Mormon and anti-abortion guess whom this man would be supporting now? Being president of the SBC can be tolerated by most whites but being President of the US is something different to them.
24601
(3,962 posts)any politician.
They care more about their dogma than they do the American people.
radicalliberal
(907 posts)But it is a good PR move.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)I would rant but..
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)ck4829
(35,077 posts)Permanut
(5,610 posts)and you're advising us to vote for the Mormon. I get it.
I'm not sure how that squares up with statements by R. Albert Mohler, president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, as reported by Michelle Vu, in the Christian Post Reporter, July 27, 2007
Evangelical Theologian: Mormons are not Christians
Mormons believe in a false gospel and are not Christians, concluded one of the nations preeminent evangelicals in what appeared to be the close of an online debate over Mormonism.
Here is the bottom line. As an Evangelical Christian a Christian who holds to the traditional Christian orthodoxy of the Church I do not believe that Mormonism leads to salvation, wrote Dr. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, on Wednesday evening.
To the contrary, I believe that it is a false gospel that, however sincere and kind its adherents may be, leads to eternal death rather than to eternal life, he stated.
They_Live
(3,233 posts)NOW!
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)themaguffin
(3,826 posts)24601
(3,962 posts)redwitch
(14,944 posts)24601
(3,962 posts)full ownership of the quote.
mike_c
(36,281 posts)eom
yardwork
(61,630 posts)I've reached my breaking point with these so-called Christian assholes. Fuck them. I mean it.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Make that the NINE Commandments.
struggle4progress
(118,290 posts)and the Southern Baptist Convention had to take some steps against him
Cha
(297,275 posts)damn ignorant as to not even knowing what the hell he's endorsing. Is that what his church is all about too..ignorance and lies?
defacto7
(13,485 posts)He's not endorsing the US, he's not endorsing his party or the rights of the American people, or the people of the world for that matter.
He's endorsing his dogma. No more, no less.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)All Southern Baptist including Billy Graham.
VPStoltz
(1,295 posts)There is nothing traditional about that.
Don't mean to step on any Progressive Mormon toes, I see ALL religions/sects/cults/secret societies, etc. as a "opiates of the masses."
randome
(34,845 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,691 posts)for flip flop, two faced... G.R.I.T.S. ... know.