Supreme Court Hears Challenges to Biden Vaccine Mandates

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — Members of the Supreme Court’s conservative majority seemed skeptical on Friday that the Biden administration has the legal power to mandate that the nation’s large employers require workers to be vaccinated against the coronavirus or to undergo frequent testing. A federal workplace safety law, they indicated during a two-hour argument, did not provide legal authority for the sweeping emergency measure.

Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Neil M. Gorsuch said the states and Congress, rather than a federal agency, were better situated to address the pandemic. Justice Amy Coney Barrett said the challenged regulation appeared to reach too broadly in covering all large employers.

Justices Gorsuch and Brett M. Kavanaugh suggested that the governing statute had not authorized the agency to impose the mandate clearly enough, given the political and economic stakes.

The court’s three more liberal justices said the mandate was a needed response to the public health crisis.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/conservative-majority-on-supreme-court-appears-skeptical-of-bidens-vaccine-plan/ar-AASwJI4?li=BBnb7Kz

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States are better suited to address the pandemic? You mean like Florida and Texas.

[tishaLA]

1. The conservative activists on SCOTUS always find limits to exec. power

when there's a Democrat in office. Other times? Not so much.

[PoliticAverse]

2. Biden says Covid surge needs to be solved at state level, vows full federal support

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/27/biden-says-covid-surge-needs-to-be-solved-at-state-level-vows-full-federal-support.html

[YP_Yooper]

13. The right approach now its' endemic

FL, TX are far different than PA, CA, NH.

Hell, here in PA Pittsburgh and Philly are two completely different situations.

[turbinetree]

3. These 6 nimrods are more interested in acting like some libertarian GOD....

[Orrex]

4. Honestly, if this fails, we might as well mothball every federal agency of oversight

If OSHA doesn't have the authority to administer occupational safety and health, then why the fuck do we have any workplace regulations at all?

To hell with hardhats on construction sites! To hell with adequate ventilation in coal mines! To hell with bathrooms and lighting for employees!

FREEDOM!

[turbinetree]

5. You might as well add Social Security and Medicare....after all they gutted Voting Rights....

[bucolic_frolic]

6. Do these AH's ever strip power from the FED? Because QE1-2-3 was in re: Congress Inaction

I didn't think so.

[ColinC]

7. The president was elected to keep people safe after an idiot decided to let half a million die.

Nobody elected SCOTUS to decide otherwise.

[bucolic_frolic]

8. The Pee-in-a-cup SCOTUS suddenly doesn't care about workplace safety

Ponder that.

[madville]

9. Justice Kagan needs to be briefed accurately on the vaccines

She stated today that the vaccines prevent healthcare workers from becoming carriers of and transmitting the virus. Obviously she supports the mandate so no worries there, but hopefully people don’t believe what she is saying and use it as a reason to not wear masks, not distance, etc.

Justice Kagan:
"All the secretary is doing here is to say to providers, 'you know what, basically, the only thing you can't do is to kill your patients. So you have to get vaccinated so that you're not transmitting the disease that can kill elderly Medicare patients, that can kill sick Medicaid patients,'" she said. "That seems like a pretty basic infection prevention measure: you can't be the carrier of disease."

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/live-updates/supreme-court-covid-19-vaccine-rule-biden/

[YP_Yooper]

14. Disappointing

This dangerous disinformation is exactly what I coached my elderly parents about when they thought exactly what she said when they had their vacc :/

[Marthe48]

10. 398 Ohioans died of Covid-19 from Tues. 01/04/22 to Fri. 01/07/22

States handle Covid real good. Red states even better than good. Asses.

[monkeyman1]

11. since when did Scotus become medical experts in the field of medicine & treatment ?

[brush]

12. Clarence Thomas asked if the vaccines were the best means to treat covid.

Unbelievable. Has he been asleep for the last year?

[Cryptoad]

15. The High Court is on the verge,,,,,,,

of ruling that Idiots have a Protected right to be an Idiot and can not be held accouintable for any of their Idiotic Actions. When this happens ,,,, it game over,,,, turn out the lights..

[J_William_Ryan]

16. "Clarence Thomas asked if the vaccines were the best means to treat covid."

Thomas is a dreadful, incompetent ‘jurist’ – the efficacy of the vaccines isn’t at issue.

At issue is the authority of OSHA to require vaccines in the context of keeping employees safe in the workplace – like using hearing protection in a loud work environment.

Clearly Congress intended OSHA to keep workers safe from infection and disease.

[eringer]

17. Looney Tunes

I am 72 years old. What message does discussions such as this send to the next generation? If this group of Repub hacks in the Supreme Court had been around in the 1950s, I would have long been dead from polio.

[Calista241]

18. I would imagine they'll strike it down after some period of delay (say 6 months)

To be fair to the court, this situation has gone on for two years, and the legislature has had plenty of time to codify work requirements relating to the vaccine. A 6 month delay will give Congress the time it needs to do what must be done.

And I don't buy the fact that Repubs wouldn't go along with this. Over 75% of the US has had at least 1 dose of the vaccine, and 64% are fully vaxxed. Those numbers easily win elections, and while I'm sure some minority of them would protest, and probably protest loudly, they could easily get this done. Aside from the fact that every single one of them is vaxxed, and frankly I'd like to see Repubs on the hotseat, instead of the Dem eat Dem dynamic we have today with Manchin and Sinema.

And there is a big difference between voting against a vaccine measure, and filibustering it. It's not like codifying vaccines into law isn't some foreign concept, as all states require vaccination to attend school. All states, even the Repub ones.