QAnon Star Who Said Only 'Idiots' Get Vax Dies of COVID
Source: Daily Beast
A leading QAnon promoter who urged both her followers and strangers she passed on the street not to take the COVID vaccine died Thursday of the coronavirus, making her just the latest vaccine opponent killed by the disease.
Cirsten Weldon had amassed tens of thousands of followers across right-wing social media networks by promoting the pro-Trump QAnon conspiracy under the screenname CirstenW. She was prominent enough to become a sort of QAnon interpreter for comedian conspiracy theorist Roseanne Barr and started recording videos about QAnon with her.
In late December, however, Weldon started showing symptoms of coronavirus infection. In her last video, posted on Dec. 28, Weldon struggled through her remarks about the coming overthrow of the United States government, coughing and complaining that she was exhausted.
Three days later, Weldon was hospitalized in Camarillo, California. She posted a picture of herself wearing an oxygen mask to Instagram and claimed she had bacterial pneumonia. Weldon wrote in a post on the social media network Telegram that she refused to take coronavirus treatment remdesivir, calling it Dr Faucis Resmedervir (sic).
Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/qanon-star-said-only-idiots-194553934.html
What is really hard to understand is not just how these folks are anti-Vax, but how they are big advocates of other remedies that were pedaled by Trump such as the horse dewormer.
Finally, the threats on hospital staff as being part of a deep state conspiracy to murder anti-Vaxxers is just scary.
flying rabbit
(4,635 posts)Response to flying rabbit (Reply #1)
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AllTooEasy
(1,260 posts)I'll reserve my Human Sympathies for the folks who die:
1) from breakthrough cases
2) because they can't get medical treatment as a result of anti-vaxxers filling up hospitals
3) from being ineligible for the vaccine or booster, like children
4) because they can't get access to the vaccine, like most of the world
5) are immune compromised, due to other medical treatments or a medical condition
These antivaxxers aren't victims, they are willfully negligent. Like feeling sorry for someone who speeds through red lights and eventually gets t-boned by a truck. Being liberal does mean "equivalent compassion for all mortal victims". Liberalism is about being factually correct, not underserved compassion for Darwin Award candidate.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Refraining from overt sympathy is one thing, celebrating the death of one who'se only crime is ignorance is quite another.
Your claim that "liberalism is about being factually correct" is incorrect, though present day Trumpers
can make it seem that way. You see, before Trump, Conservatives and Liberals frequently AGREED on facts; it was their differing ATTITUDES toward those facts that distinguished them.
Liberals tend to be less judgemental toward those in need; Conversely, conservatives tend to be more judgmental, stressing "personal responsibility" and the need to "pull one's self up" by their bootstraps".
I think most here would agree that what distinguishes liberals from conservatives is tolerance and compassion, the latter being something Liberals rarely find someone "undeserving" of.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(1,967 posts)These people are willfully stupid and their actions are endangering others. I am not going to wring my hands over their deaths- they gambled their lives to prove a point and they lost. Hopefully, any of their family members or friends who are not vaccinated will now change their minds.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)excuses the callous.mocking of someone's death.
One needn't "wring ones hands" to.refain from doing that.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)Coventina
(27,121 posts)GOOD RIDDANCE!
whathehell
(29,067 posts)I'm sorry so many here seem "ignorant" of that fact, but do continue your charming celebration of death..The humanity of it all is inspiring.
Farmer-Rick
(10,185 posts)It was self righteous supiorority. It was her "I know everything" attitude. It was her willingness to hurt others that caused her death. She knew what she was doing. She was betting she would never get the illness. She was betting on the odds.
My step daughter and her family of 4 are anti-vaxxers and have never gotten vaccinated and have never gotten one of those deadly illnesses (well her children. Both her and her hubby were vaccinated when young.) that she has refused to get her family vaccinated for. She therefore thinks she's right not to get her family vaccinated. And we all know she has just been lucky so far.
This unfortunately dead woman knew there was a deadly virus out there, she just thought she was special and she wasn't going to get it. And if she did get it, she was betting on a very mild case. She was betting with her life and wanted the rest of us to do the same and she didn't care if we died doing it her way.
That is not ignorance. That is self righteous supiorority.
yardwork
(61,650 posts)The scolding you're doing here is one reason why Democrats lose elections. You come across as self righteous, and at the same time, as someone who's easily fooled by other people.
It's called virtue signaling and nobody likes it. It's why Democrats have a reputation for being out of touch and snobby. It's why people think Republicans are "real" and "down to earth" in comparison.
Overall, it's not just a bad look for you, it's actively contributing to negative impressions of Democrats. Please think about this.
niyad
(113,344 posts)(And it is "whose", not "who'se". Auto correct sucks.)
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 9, 2022, 05:55 PM - Edit history (1)
It's a human condition, we all experience and exhibit, at different times, about different subjects.
AllTooEasy
(1,260 posts)Apathy does not equal Celebration. In fact, Apathy and Celebration can not coexist, by definition. Sports Analogy - I could give two poops that Alabama lost the college football national championship tonight. In addition, I dont celebrate Alabamas defeat.
Similarly, I have no sympathy for this woman or any of her ilk who have or will end up like her. Frankly, Im completely apathetic towards the pain and suffering that she endured during her final moments. I CLEARLY stated who I reserved my sympathy for. I do not Thank God that she died, celebrate her misfortune, or wish similar misfortune on the folks like her.
groundloop
(11,519 posts)After SO many needless deaths which are easily prevented I just don't have it in me to feel sympathy for anti vaxxers and in fact find myself silently hoping Democrats will benefit at the polls.
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)You have Fox News quietly imposing fairly draconian COVID controls measures internally while FOx continues to promote anti-vax conspiracies. These folks are not only dying, but they are spreading the illness and their family members are getting sick and family members are being lost while Tucker Carlson and Fox knowingly promotes misinformation about the pandemic.
If we are not going to feel any sypathy for people who relied on such fraudulent information to their detriment, then why not repeal elder abuse and similar consumer protection laws.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)And how many lives has her idiotic rhetoric claimed? Fuck her. She got exactly what she deserved.
PSPS
(13,601 posts)Her actions have certainly caused the deaths of others who were ignorant enough to believe what she was saying.
AllTooEasy
(1,260 posts)Best Question on this site!
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)If this is what it took to keep her from killing more people, then so be it.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)is, this person was as ignorant as those whose deaths you are "certain" she caused. It's an all around tragedy, not something to celebrate.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Ray Bruns
(4,098 posts)To hell with them
IronLionZion
(45,454 posts)these people are dangerous to themselves and others.
Lunabell
(6,089 posts)And not insult a fellow Democrat.
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It's more humane to grave dance than to ' insult a fellow democrat'. Got it.
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Lunabell
(6,089 posts)But insulting a fellow Democrat is pretty shitty. We're all over these covidiots and we have a right to express our disgust at them. Try keeping your opinions to yourself if you don't have anything but flames to share.
tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)eom
whathehell
(29,067 posts)but whatever.
wolfie001
(2,252 posts)I meant, really? The idiot called for the PUBLIC HANGING OF FAUCI!!!!???? I'm in a celebratory mood:
yardwork
(61,650 posts)Weldon focused on attacking vaccines and other efforts to fight COVID-19, saying in one video that Dr. Anthony Fauci needs to be hung from a rope. She claimed the vaccine killed people and even recorded herself yelling at people standing in line to receive vaccines.
The vaccines kill, dont get it! Weldon warned the waiting vaccine recipients in an undated video posted to one of her online accounts. This is how gullible these idiots are. Theyre all getting vaccine!
Fullduplexxx
(7,864 posts)nycbos
(6,034 posts)hilarious.
AllTooEasy
(1,260 posts)...and appropriate for these clowns
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Ferretherder
(1,446 posts)...trollers gonna' troll.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)winstars
(4,220 posts)In the face of these deaths, their surviving friends and supporters have started to allege that the dead QAnon figures are being murdered, either because they were refused internet folk remedies like ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, or because they were killed by the deep-state to cover up their conspiracy theories. In December, Kuzma and a number of other conspiracy theorists were sickened with COVID-like symptoms after appearing together at a conference. Rather than acknowledge that they had COVID, the far-right influencers suggested they had been targeted by an anthrax attack
After Weldons death, her QAnon allies threatened to pursue violent action against staff at the hospital where she died. Scott McKay, a QAnon personality known as the Patriot Streetfighter, said he would publicize the names of doctors and nurses involved in treating Weldon, saying he wanted to put the fear into these medical professionals in a Telegram post. McKay proposed the hospital staff be sentenced to death, or be murdered in vigilante violence.
If its not done in a military tribunal then its going to be done in the street eventually and not to my wishes, McKay wrote. Thats my greatest fear. But if its necessary, its going to be necessary.
Bye Bye ASSHOLE!!!
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paleotn
(17,931 posts)wolfie001
(2,252 posts)Making sure we DUers are just so nice and wholesome.
winstars
(4,220 posts)AllTooEasy
(1,260 posts)Character is hoping her death lights a fire under the butts of her ilk that are still living. Compassion for the Willfully Negligent negligently promotes willful negligence (BARZ!), which results in lost of lives. Where's the moral character in that?
One of my overweight, out-of-shape, +50 aged cousins was persuaded by myself and other family members via Consistent Bickering and Scorn to get vaccinated. She lost an mutually idiot friend to COVID about 3 weeks later. She thanked us for straightening her out in time, and then voluntarily got boosted. We saved her life from herself, by not being nice. That's Love. That IS Character!
whathehell
(29,067 posts)since you didn't.KNOW her, and, again, we're not talking about refraining from sympathy, OR giving positive criticism to the living, we're talking about ghoulishy mocking someone's death.
.
AllTooEasy
(1,260 posts)What the heck do you call her? She willfully decided not to get vaccinated, and then mocked people who did. She promoted NOT Getting Vaccinated, AKA Negligence. Stop pretending that one has to Know her personally to recognize her Willful Negligence.
winstars
(4,220 posts)Hope that sentence is grammatically correct.
Have a great day.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Poor writing skills so undermine credibility.
ProfessorGAC
(65,076 posts)...and sanctimony.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)and so is my sense of compassion.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)But the rampant sanctimony and grammar policing is wearing extremely thin.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)KS Toronado
(17,259 posts)LymphocyteLover
(5,644 posts)Either they really aren't healthy at all, and clearly they are mentally ill, they've just been infected with massive amounts of the virus because they are clearly not taking any precautions at all, or some combination of the two.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)twodogsbarking
(9,759 posts)Talitha
(6,593 posts)One less manure spreader.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)NNadir
(33,525 posts)aeromanKC
(3,324 posts)Keep em coming!!
struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)patphil
(6,182 posts)barbtries
(28,799 posts)sorryantivaxxer.com
love the comments over there.
Initech
(100,080 posts)Historic NY
(37,451 posts)Only idiots die of Covid-19 when they have a chance to survive with a vaccine.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Trying to say something nice about those that pass?
dchill
(38,505 posts)Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)(I slay me)
IronLionZion
(45,454 posts)and believes Hillary is a cannibal who enjoys eating human brains. You can watch her getting progressively sicker because COVID isn't impressed by her doing her own research.
https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/post/cirsten-weldon-61-sarasota-fl-influencer-q-tuber-anti-vaxx-dead-from-covid
Orrex
(63,215 posts)vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)So what everybody have for dinner tonight?
calimary
(81,320 posts)usaf-vet
(6,189 posts)turbinetree
(24,703 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)Reading this story just put a big smile on my face. Reading this story just put a big smile on my face One less dumb ass above ground.
I would like to mention however that there are many doctors recommend the use of ivermectin as a remedy for the virus. My wife informed me today that she bought some for me and has it saved in the house. As soon as I return from my trip , yes that is in fact true, Im going to flush that crap down the toilet within the first five minutes of walking in the d im going to flush that crap down the toilet within the first five minutes of walking in the door front door.
niyad
(113,344 posts)Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)See the part where she rejected the anti-viral treatment? It's scary that her crazy friends are threatening medical staff because this lady was basically suicidal.
YP_Yooper
(291 posts)especially for anything less than a very severe situation. Almost 2/3rds of everyone who takes it have damage to their innards just to recover a few days earlier.
20%+ of people who take it get severe liver/kidney damage, and another 40% get severe decrease in liver/kidney function.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33763917/
Lasher
(27,597 posts)Maybe I'm just reading over it.
YP_Yooper
(291 posts)In addition to the side effects, the WHO doesn't recommend it either:
Remdesivir, also known as Veklury, and the steroid dexamethasone are the only drugs authorized to treat Covid-19 patients. But a recent massive global study of remdesivir's effectiveness, run by the WHO, showed that remdesivir had little or no impact on hospitalized patients, contradicting previous trials.
Remdesivir has no meaningful effect on mortality or on other important outcomes for patients, such as the need for mechanical ventilation or time to clinical improvement," experts from the WHO Guideline Development Group wrote in a statement. The review was published in The BMJ, a medical journal.
[link:https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/remdesivir-shouldn-t-be-used-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-who-n1248320|
This is so tricky - research is jaded even among good sources. Here the NEJM says the stuff is great, but the study is funded by the Big Pharm company that makes it:
[link:https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2116846|
C Moon
(12,213 posts)She wasn't traveling for a while....she was fucking going to the hospital for treatment of COVIDand at that point her pea sized brain knew she had COVID, but her ego continued to lie to her viewers.
She didn't even have any god damned empathy for others who may catch it while unvaccinated, by admitting she caught COVID.
SHE IS THE EPITOME OF THE CURRENT GOP. They are ALL like her. Every god damned one of them.
Lies, lies, lies. Even when they are on their death bed they'll lie.
Fuck the GOP!
Upthevibe
(8,053 posts)Jetheels
(991 posts)Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)On the one hand I really dislike these people and their stupidity, but on the other hand I feel bad for them because there is a huge effort to push misinformation to these people. Many of them don't stand a chance. I oscillate between anger and pity.
C Moon
(12,213 posts)It's hilarious that trump's presidency has come down to this: QAnon idiots and racists
In some ways, COVID protected us from these boneheads ruling a nation.
Auggie
(31,173 posts)raccoon
(31,111 posts)twodogsbarking
(9,759 posts)nattyice
(331 posts)myohmy2
(3,163 posts)...
roody
(10,849 posts)papa3times
(150 posts)when your membership in the death cult expires!
Blue Owl
(50,425 posts)The Unmitigated Gall
(3,819 posts)Oh lord, when will it EVER stop???
Aussie105
(5,401 posts)the death of someone we do not know doesn't touch us, and 'thought and prayers' is just a way of expressing a fake sympathy, something that is socially acceptable but emotionally empty?
Perhaps people are reacting to the REASON why she died? And react negatively to the lies she spread?
And to be honest, it's a stupid reason to die. Stupid obstinance and ignorance of facts and reality leading to . . . yep, stupid way to die.
Sympathy to those who knew her and are emotionally affected by her passing.
Most won't miss her Qanon disinformation stream though.
SKKY
(11,811 posts)yardwork
(61,650 posts)She refused potentially life saving treatment there but used other scarce resources that might have saved other people's lives. I'm sure she added to the enormous stress hospital caregivers are feeling. Selfish to the end.
truthisfreedom
(23,148 posts)Someone should have made her do her science homework in junior high.
librechik
(30,674 posts)ALL of them would be "Idiot!"
I'm humbled by the relative compassion. What an idiot. RIP.