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muriel_volestrangler

(101,336 posts)
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 08:04 PM Jan 2022

Ukraine: US orders families of embassy staff to leave

Source: BBC

The US has ordered the relatives of its embassy staff in Ukraine to leave amid rising tension in the region.

The State Department has also given permission for non-essential staff to leave and urged US citizens in Ukraine to consider departing.

In a statement. it said there were reports that Russia is planning significant military action against Ukraine.

Read more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60106416

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Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
7. If you go on twitter there is a bunch of people on the far(maybe?)-left and right saying it's Biden
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 09:25 PM
Jan 2022

who is the warmonger. Which confuses me a lot. I mean, if Putin invades then there will be a war. If Putin doesn't invade, then there won't be a war (well, at least it won't be enlarged)

Now, I understand from the domestic right, a lot of this is just politics in being against anything Biden does. If the Biden admin was ignoring this then they would be saying he's weak for not doing anything. I understand why Russian nationalists and Russophiles are cheering on Russia. I'm not 100% clear why so many anti-war left are either ignoring or cheering on Russia, though. I guess a lot of them are not really anti-war, but they anti certain wars, and pro unjustified invasions when done by the 'right' people. Why don't we hear anything about this from A.N.S.W.E.R coalition about Russia's likely invasion of Ukraine? I mean, they can also be against the US and other western countries providing weapons to Ukraine, but I would think they would also be totally against an invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

Few bat an eye when I say the Iraq invasion was immoral and wrong, but being against a Russian invasion of Ukraine apparently makes me a warmonger.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
12. Haven't seen that one yet, but sounds like something from the republicans, aye?
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 02:30 AM
Jan 2022

Even when everyone is safely removed they will still be repeating that. It's not like reality matters any longer.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
3. I still believe putin will be using the assets tRump gave him as far as battle plans, preparedness
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 08:24 PM
Jan 2022

tRump probably gave putin all the game plans he could get his orange hands on. A war should be kept regional but serious fuel shortages will probably hit eastern Europe. If it escalates we could see cyber attacks on infrastructure, satellites. The good news is our anti sat capabilities are far superior to russia.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
6. They've got some amphibious forces on the way from the Baltic Sea.
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 09:21 PM
Jan 2022

Wouldn't be surprising for Ukraine to kick it off early to get in that first shot. Maybe try and destroy or damage the Istanbul canal to delay an amphibious landing.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
8. The Bosporus Straits are Turkish territory.
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 09:52 PM
Jan 2022

It would be a mistake for any non-NATO country to get provocative there.

Turkey would trigger the mutual defense clause of the NATO treaty.

blue-wave

(4,357 posts)
10. Do you mean the Kerch Straight?
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 10:47 PM
Jan 2022

The Kerch Straight is what Putin spanned with his new $12 billion dollar bridge from mainland Russia to Crimea. It separates the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea.

If I were in charge of Ukraine, that bridge would be on my high priority list of Russian things to destroy if Russia invades.


More on the warmongers bridge here: https://glasnostgone.org/2020/10/04/european-union-sanctions-russias-kerch-bridge-to-crimea/

bluestarone

(17,002 posts)
5. The soldiers are caught in the middle
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 08:27 PM
Jan 2022

Could be very bad! PUTIN will sit on his ass while russian soldiers die! To add here i really believe this is to put HEAT to further divide America! Another part of little putins game plan. Wouldn't surprise me if TFG is somehow involved in this. (in a round about way)

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