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ripcord

(5,399 posts)
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 01:05 PM Feb 2022

UN calls on US to halt evictions by Native American tribe

Source: Star Tribune

"We appeal to the U.S. government to respect the right to adequate housing … and to ensure that it abides by its international obligations, including with respect to the rights of Indigenous peoples," experts from the U.N.'s Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights said in a news release.

The Nooksack government has made efforts for years to expel more than 300 of the tribe's roughly 2,000 members, including 21 families who live on tribal property held in trust by the U.S.

"We are also concerned that the forced evictions will deny them the possibility of enjoying their own culture and of using their own language in community with others," the special rapporteurs said.

Galanda's clients are at a disadvantage because the tribe's government has barred Galanda and other adversarial lawyers not employed by the tribe from representing the families in tribal court.

Read more: https://www.startribune.com/un-calls-on-us-to-halt-evictions-by-native-american-tribe/600142779/



Forcing people to use only lawyers paid by the tribe is outrageous, talk about an abuse of power. Moves like these call into question all the actions by the tribal council.
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UN calls on US to halt evictions by Native American tribe (Original Post) ripcord Feb 2022 OP
from day one llashram Feb 2022 #1
You do understand it's the native Americans evicting people cinematicdiversions Feb 2022 #5
yeah I understand this point llashram Feb 2022 #8
No, that's not what this is about either. Indian tribes are Hortensis Feb 2022 #15
yeah, yeah okay llashram Feb 2022 #16
Can't read the article Bayard Feb 2022 #2
The next few paragraphs from the article: TheRickles Feb 2022 #3
Thanks Bayard Feb 2022 #4
Each tribe has its own criteria wnylib Feb 2022 #9
Thanks you for good information Bayard Feb 2022 #10
Combination of anthropology courses and wnylib Feb 2022 #12
I not sure how much I would trust Cline ripcord Feb 2022 #6
Yes, it sounds very shady, using legalistic tactics to shut the door on any possible opposition. TheRickles Feb 2022 #7
Just DNA test everyone pfitz59 Feb 2022 #11
Not really. There's a lot of people like my wife who do not identify as Native American... hunter Feb 2022 #13
The problem is that is not how the tribes handle membership ripcord Feb 2022 #14
How/why is the UN involved? apnu Feb 2022 #17

llashram

(6,265 posts)
1. from day one
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 01:13 PM
Feb 2022

when Miles Standish screamed, "after the savages" METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING, and outright genocide of First Americans commenced this bs has been going on. Native-American peoples have been made to pay for the defense of their homelands every day since the genocide of those peoples began.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
5. You do understand it's the native Americans evicting people
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 03:26 PM
Feb 2022

The UN is trying to prevent the native Americans from proceeding.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
8. yeah I understand this point
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 08:38 PM
Feb 2022

hell, it's on par with POC faces peppering a trump rally. Always had that. Divide and conquer.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. No, that's not what this is about either. Indian tribes are
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 11:22 AM
Feb 2022
mostly self governing and set their own membership requirements. Their right to decide who is a whatever and is entitled to share in the benefits, social and economic, of membership, is long established in law.

TheRickles

(2,063 posts)
3. The next few paragraphs from the article:
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 01:38 PM
Feb 2022

"Ross Cline Sr., who chairs the Nooksack Tribal Council, didn't immediately respond to requests for comment from the newspaper or The Associated Press on Thursday. He has said the families known as the "Nooksack 306" were incorrectly enrolled in the 1980s, cannot prove their lineage adequately and were disenrolled in proceedings in 2016 and 2018.

According to the U.N. commissioner's office, 63 people who self-identify Nooksack are at risk of eviction from homes they've lived in for many years, which were developed with federal funding.

Many are "elderly, women and children — some with disabilities and chronic diseases," and being evicted could impact their health, especially during the pandemic, the experts said."

Bayard

(22,073 posts)
4. Thanks
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 02:10 PM
Feb 2022

Wonder what would be considered adequate lineage proof? I would think, given the circumstances, they could get compassionate consideration. Sounds like this has been going on for a long time.

When I lived in eastern CA, there was some turmoil within the Mono tribe population with talk of building a casino. Some people getting perturbed when told they didn't have a high enough percentage of Mono blood to receive any of the income.

I don't want it myself, but maybe genetic testing could put a lot of these situations to rest.

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
9. Each tribe has its own criteria
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 02:47 AM
Feb 2022

for tribal membership. The federal government accepts the criteria set by the tribe.

DNA testing would not necessarily solve the problem. Among the tribes who were forced to move west on the Trail of Tears, membership requires proof of direct descent from names on the government list of those removed, called the Dawes Roll. But some Cherokee evaded the Army removal by hiding out in the NC and TN mountains. They applied for and received separate federal recognition as the Eastern Band of Cherokee.

Among some tribes like the Seneca and Mohawk, matrilineal descent is the criterion. If your mother is not Seneca, then neither are you, even if your father is 100% Seneca. So you could have generations of direct line Seneca maternal descent with non Seneca fathers in each generation and still be Seneca.

Besides biological descent, some tribes also require a genuine commitment to the well being of the tribe and cultural involvement with it.

I don't know the details of requirement for this tribe.

One problem that sometimes develops in smaller tribes is that a source of income, like a casino, can cause rifts in a tribe over different views. Traditionally oriented people might object to a casino. Others support it because of the income. Politics and greed can develop in any nationality or race. If the casino faction gains political power in the tribal government, they can try to force the others out. In a smaller tribe where just a few families can gain the upper hand, this can create serious problems.

But in other tribes, even when there are differences over such issues, the differences do not go to such an extent. It depends, too, on outsiders who are the casino developers that can rile up divisions, or communities near tribal land who hope to benefit from a casino near them.

Eviction of elderly and sick people sounds cruel and unnecessary. Seems like, if there is legitimate concern about membership eligibility, the people could be removed from tribal rolls without evicting them from their homes.



wnylib

(21,466 posts)
12. Combination of anthropology courses and
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 03:07 AM
Feb 2022

personal experience. I have some Seneca ancestry through my grandmother, but she was my father's mother.

ripcord

(5,399 posts)
6. I not sure how much I would trust Cline
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 03:50 PM
Feb 2022

He says the attorney hired by the people being evicted is meddling, I'm not sure how having legal representation would be consider meddling. I do know that any government that denies people an attorney of their choice can't be trusted.

hunter

(38,312 posts)
13. Not really. There's a lot of people like my wife who do not identify as Native American...
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 10:56 AM
Feb 2022

... who have more Native American ancestry than people who do identify as Native American; people who have lived in Native American communities their entire lives and may even speak the language.

My wife's Native American ancestors lived along what is now the U.S. border with Mexico. They were forced into Mexico by the U.S. Army and other violent forms of discrimination. They later returned as ranch hands and farm workers, some of them freely traveling across the border whenever economic times in the U.S. were favorable. My wife's father was born in a tent in a labor camp near a small farm my parents used to own, but by that time his family spoke Spanish and identified as Mexican immigrants. My wife's grandfather eventually became a U.S. citizen, but her grandmother did not, although she had a green card and had worked in the U.S. her entire adult life. It was a matter of pride with her even though she'd chosen to have her children in the U.S.A..

When my wife worked in a Native American community she looked like everyone else but was still an outsider. She would have been rejected by that community if she'd presumed to be anything else.

My daughter-in-law and one of my nieces still maintain some loose ties with their own Native American communities, but grew up outside those communities.

My ancestors are White Wild West. When my wife and I announced our engagement my grandfather had a fit since men in his family didn't marry, in his words, "Mexican girls." That was in spite of the noble savage bullshit he believed and his tolerance of all races and creeds in the workplace, including his support for desegregation in the military. He boycotted our wedding, but to his credit he got over it, possibly because she was better at math than he was and had just as many friends in the aerospace industry.

ripcord

(5,399 posts)
14. The problem is that is not how the tribes handle membership
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 01:21 PM
Feb 2022

They usually trace membership back to a list compiled by government officials at some point in the tribes history. The problem is that the lists were notoriously inaccurate.

This also wouldn't help the Freedmen with their cases, the Chickasaw, Muscogee, Seminole and Choctaw nations disenrolled the Freedmen members of their tribes in because they weren't of the blood. Maxine Waters even threaten those tribes with the loss of funding over their racism. The tribes bought black slaves from Americans, they supported the Confederacy in order to keep slavery legal and forced them to follow the tribe on the Trail of Tears and the deal at the end of the Civil War was that the tribes would absorb the Freedmen as members. Around a century later the started disenrolling Freedmen because the full bloods were worried about losing power.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
17. How/why is the UN involved?
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 02:03 PM
Feb 2022

This is a small tribal spat. Others have covered the ins and outs of it already, but how and why did the UN get involved to the point of imploring the U.S. Government to get involved?

Is this some kind of an appeal on the part of the Nooksack 300?

It certainly puts the tribe in a bad light knowing this group of people are elderly and/or sick.

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