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brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:02 PM Feb 2022

'Trump Is Wrong,' Pence Says of False Claim About Overturning Election

Source: New York Times

Former Vice President Mike Pence on Friday offered his most forceful rebuke of Donald Trump, saying that Mr. Trump is “wrong” that Mr. Pence had the legal authority to change the results of the 2020 election and that the Republican Party must accept the outcome and look toward the future.

Speaking to a gathering of conservatives near Orlando, Fla., the former vice president said he shares “the disappointment so many feel about the last election” but repudiated Mr. Trump’s claims that Mr. Pence had the legal authority to reject Electoral College results and alter the outcome last year.

“President Trump is wrong,” said Mr. Pence, in his remarks before the Federalist Society, a conservative legal organization. “I had no right to overturn the election.”

The comments marked the strongest rejection of Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election by his former vice president. Mr. Pence refused to give in to Mr. Trump’s pressure campaign on Jan. 6 to change the results and has remained relatively quiet about that decision since leaving office. He had largely declined to directly attack Mr. Trump or assign him any blame for inciting the deadly Jan. 6 siege on the Capitol. In public appearances last year, Mr. Pence defended his role in resisting Mr. Trump but did not go further than saying the two men will never “see eye to eye about that day.”


Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/us/politics/pence-trump-election.html
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'Trump Is Wrong,' Pence Says of False Claim About Overturning Election (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2022 OP
Why is he disappointed about the result of the last election? Jim__ Feb 2022 #1
He's probably disappointed because he couldn't be VP any more, Ocelot II Feb 2022 #5
Pence has a big ZERO for his entire future. DENVERPOPS Feb 2022 #32
Because abortion Polybius Feb 2022 #27
What took him so long? Gd eom LittleGirl Feb 2022 #2
"...but I had to ask Dan Quayle just to be sure." Qutzupalotl Feb 2022 #3
I don't believe a thing that goofy bastard says. walkingman Feb 2022 #4
i have to admit barbtries Feb 2022 #6
Fly-man is their enemy now. Justice matters. Feb 2022 #18
One "quality" of the warped Repugs is never to admit something was wrong. ificandream Feb 2022 #7
....Well Said..Quote again in large letters..."MINOR MIRACLE TO ADMIT SOMETHING WRONG "-REPUGS..... Stuart G Feb 2022 #8
The truth is DENVERPOPS Feb 2022 #34
Translation:"I wanted to, but Uncle Dan Quayle said I wasn't allowed." Raven123 Feb 2022 #9
Hey! If Dan Quayle helped Pence make the right decision, mrsadm Feb 2022 #36
I agree. Sad that Pence is so indecisive he needed a push to do the right thing. Raven123 Feb 2022 #39
Looks like it's Trump/Rogan '24. JohnnyRingo Feb 2022 #10
That is horrifying. Richard D Feb 2022 #11
Wouldn't surprise me if it was bluestarone Feb 2022 #14
And the media had a blast with Palin. JohnnyRingo Feb 2022 #35
Well, all I will say is that some nut of trump's will try and attack pence now. Just wait and see. SWBTATTReg Feb 2022 #12
BET on it. Trump is going to go ballistic. Pence went right for the artery. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #19
Of course he's wrong. Mz Pip Feb 2022 #13
Translation: Pence aids said something to 1/6 committee Emile Feb 2022 #15
Which one is Pence? All of them. Marcuse Feb 2022 #16
Has TFG reacted to this yet? LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #17
Replace "beat" by "cheat" nt Justice matters. Feb 2022 #20
Wow.. that should be the OP! Cha Feb 2022 #26
I love this response from TFG LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #31
lol@Conway... he's got that Cha Feb 2022 #33
Fuck that guy Zorro Feb 2022 #21
It will be some trick, to win over the MAGA crowd after they erected a gallows in your name! 70sEraVet Feb 2022 #22
Pence is probably afraid that one of tRumps nutjobs may interrupt him and mothers dinner. nt yaesu Feb 2022 #23
He's running for the GOP nomination. El Supremo Feb 2022 #24
That was my first thought as well Bayard Feb 2022 #30
He should give it up, and go with Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney LiberalLovinLug Feb 2022 #25
The Republican primary debates are going to be better than sex Polybius Feb 2022 #28
Big Fucking Whoop PlanetBev Feb 2022 #29
Wondering what Mike Pence Chief of Staff Marc Short said to the 1/6 committee. Emile Feb 2022 #37
MSNBC reported Pence got a standing ovation Deminpenn Feb 2022 #38
Two questions... essaynnc Feb 2022 #40

Jim__

(14,076 posts)
1. Why is he disappointed about the result of the last election?
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:07 PM
Feb 2022

Haven't subsequent events taught him that Trump is a liar, a fool, and a wannabe dictator? He should count his blessings about the result of the last election.

Ocelot II

(115,693 posts)
5. He's probably disappointed because he couldn't be VP any more,
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:17 PM
Feb 2022

and he had been waiting for TFG to stroke out so he could be president like God told him he should be. He was fine with keeping his nose nice and brown waiting for that to happen. Now he's got a sad because that chance is gone and he has no other path to the presidency and God isn't helping.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
32. Pence has a big ZERO for his entire future.
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 02:03 AM
Feb 2022

While under siege at the White House, the crowd was told to go after all Dems, but also at the top of the list was Pelosi and Pence.
Basically Mafiosa Trump put a contract out on them and others, just like a Mafia Don......His boss wanted him hung in the gallows they brought along. And in front of his wife and children.

Pence, and a few R senators would be advised to defect to the Dem Party to give us a decidedly majority in the Senate, and clear the way to re-establish our Justice System and Democracy..............

I would love to see the assholes in charge of trashing Cheney's daughter when Daddy gets through with them.

Things we would have loved to have seen? How about a bunch of those seditious cretins rushing the Secret Service Detail in charge of protecting Pence...........foot note for those stupid ignorant sub species;: The Secret Service goes ALL OUT if anyone even attempts to challenge them or the person they are protecting.........they don't take prisoners, it's shoot to kill, and keep on shooting.
A hundred of them would not have stood a chance against the 20 SS agents..........

Pence was sooooo mortified by what he saw, He refused to get in his "escape car" with SS agents he didn't know......What does that tell you of what he knew of TrumpHumping SS agents infiltration of the rank and file of the Secret Service????????????

What I don't know, and if any of you do know, Did Trump grant immunity from prosecution with a Pardon for Pence??????????
Pence had better give his heart to god, because the Republicans are gonna have his ass with all this info he is going to give out........

Polybius

(15,417 posts)
27. Because abortion
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 10:37 PM
Feb 2022

As much as he probably hates Trump now, he'd still rather have him because of this one issue.

barbtries

(28,795 posts)
6. i have to admit
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:19 PM
Feb 2022

i'm surprised he said that. i hope someone is listening among the brainwashed multitudes and trump worshipers.

ificandream

(9,372 posts)
7. One "quality" of the warped Repugs is never to admit something was wrong.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:24 PM
Feb 2022

The fact Pence admitted Trump was wrong is a minor miracle. We'll have to watch and see if he backtracks tomorrow.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
34. The truth is
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 02:14 AM
Feb 2022

that Pence and a huge amount of the Republican Politicians despise and truly loathe Trump. The are playing nice to try and monopolize the Trump humpers voters.......

They want to do whatever is possible to help the Dems take him down while they stand idly on the side lines......

There is not a more despicable living thing than Trump. Although Moscow Mitch is in close contention for 1st place. You have to remember that the Republicans in the House and Senate condoned his behavior every step of the way..And if they hadn't enabled Trump Trump would have been kicked to the gutter. a few months after he was "installed" by them and Putin.....They all voted to impeach Trump twice, (not once, but twice), and just stood by and even cheered him on..........

mrsadm

(1,198 posts)
36. Hey! If Dan Quayle helped Pence make the right decision,
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 07:51 AM
Feb 2022

Then I am very grateful for that. May be the best thing Quayle ever did in his life.

Raven123

(4,842 posts)
39. I agree. Sad that Pence is so indecisive he needed a push to do the right thing.
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 11:01 AM
Feb 2022

Gotta wonder how he determines which shoe to toe first when getting dressed.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
10. Looks like it's Trump/Rogan '24.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:36 PM
Feb 2022

"He's not a politician!"
"That's why he wants to be Vice President."

I joke, but I've eaten words before.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
35. And the media had a blast with Palin.
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 03:42 AM
Feb 2022

Despite being something of an albatross, she'd get a lot of attention because everyone would want to hear what stupid shit comes out of her mouth.

SWBTATTReg

(22,124 posts)
12. Well, all I will say is that some nut of trump's will try and attack pence now. Just wait and see.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:47 PM
Feb 2022

Unfortunate too, as some under trump's spell (or actually quite a few) feel like violence is the solution.

Mz Pip

(27,445 posts)
13. Of course he's wrong.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:50 PM
Feb 2022

Why bother to have elections? Just have the VP declare a winner.

That really is the natural extension of all of this.

Emile

(22,745 posts)
15. Translation: Pence aids said something to 1/6 committee
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 06:20 PM
Feb 2022

and he knows the shit is about to hit the fan!

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
21. Fuck that guy
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 08:09 PM
Feb 2022

He preceded his Trump remarks with snotty attacks on Democrats and praising Republicans for stonewalling on the voter rights legislation, and brought up the GOP boogeyman threat that Kamala would be able to change the results of the 2024 election if the VP has that legal authority.

He's still just a corn-bred flaming asshole.

Bayard

(22,073 posts)
30. That was my first thought as well
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 11:58 PM
Feb 2022

Trying to appeal to, "sane rethuglicans," by drawing contrast to TFG's lies.

Problem is, there are too few of them. The rest will want to hang him even more now.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
25. He should give it up, and go with Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 10:15 PM
Feb 2022

But he doesn't have the guts. Such a pathetic small man.

If there was any way legally possible, even through some obscure loophole, that he could have sabotaged the election confirmation process he would have. And right now be grinning from ear to ear standing behind his lord and master.

essaynnc

(801 posts)
40. Two questions...
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 12:10 PM
Feb 2022

1. What did pence ever do as vice president that would prepare him to be president?? I'm sorry, that's rhetorical question to come out the answer is effing nothing.

2. It's on a more serious note, what's the long game with this ploy? I guarantee that federalist society has something in mind to let him up on stage, let the public see it and let the public see him disavowing trump. Maybe trump was just a trainer for insurrection in the future, and they're done with him? Now it's time to move on to disantus or some other nut job. What do you think?

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