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Tue Feb 22, 2022, 08:17 PM

Suspected Shooter in Normandale Park Mass Shooting Identified

Source: Portland Mercury

Smith, 43, has lived in an apartment across from Normandale Park for more than a decade, and has harbored growing animosity against Black Lives Matter protesters, COVID-19 mask mandates, unhoused Portlanders, and liberals, according to his roommate, Kristine Christenson.

Smith's brother told the Oregonian that Smith would often complain about the Justice for Patrick Kimmons demonstrations that regularly took place in Normandale Park. Kimmons was a Black man killed by Portland police in 2018. Kimmons supporters had gathered Saturday evening at Normandale to hold a demonstration in support of Amir Locke, a Black man killed by Minneapolis police earlier this month.

Christenson told the Oregonian that Smith collect guns, and kept at least four in his bedroom. "He talked about wanting to go shoot commies and antifa all the friggin' time," Christenson told OPB. "He was just a sad angry dude. ... He talked about wanting to do this for a while. He was angry at the mask mandates, he was angry at the damned liberals."

According to witnesses, Smith approached four unarmed woman gathered near Normandale Park Saturday night and yelled at them to leave. The women were all volunteers, assisting march organizers in slowing traffic to allow demonstrators to march down the street. Within minutes, Smith had allegedly opened fire on the four women, striking all four with bullets. One of the women, June Knightly, died at the scene.

Read more: https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2022/02/22/38645257/suspected-shooter-in-normandale-park-mass-shooting-identified



Couple of observations:

1. This was ANOTHER unsable man with a gun, and of course, he shot women (and others). He doesn't appear to have been in any of Portland's RW Militias, but he sounds pretty RW.
2. A good guy with a gun shot a Rampage Shooter - an actual Defensive Gun Use - finally - and they were probably Antifa and/or BLM. Put that in your Anit-Antifa pipe and smoke it.

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maxsolomon Feb 2022 OP
people Feb 2022 #1
maxsolomon Feb 2022 #3
Sancho Feb 2022 #2
world wide wally Feb 2022 #4
hadEnuf Feb 2022 #5
AverageOldGuy Feb 2022 #6

Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Tue Feb 22, 2022, 08:40 PM

1. Horrible horrible

HORRIBLE! Why do people like that have guns?

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Response to people (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 22, 2022, 09:05 PM

3. Because they're cheap and it's encouraged as a badge of manhood?

They're as American as Apple Pie.

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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Tue Feb 22, 2022, 08:52 PM

2. People Control, Not Gun Control

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70ís, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that werenít secured are out of control in our society. As such, hereís what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. Iím not debating the legal language, I just think itís the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because itís clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learnerís license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driverís license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 22, 2022, 09:15 PM

4. Makes perfect sense to me, but I know of 50 republicans in DC that won't buy in.

(they are probably the only 50 people in the world that wouldn't)

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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Tue Feb 22, 2022, 09:15 PM

5. The suspect was shot? Didn't know that.

GOOD. That doesn't help the ones who were shot by Smith, but start shooting back at some of these fuckers and maybe they will think twice about being "Fox heroes".

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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Tue Feb 22, 2022, 09:41 PM

6. More about this incident

Here is more from the article cited by the OP.

Someone in the protest group allegedly returned fire, striking Smith. That person has not been identified. According to the Portland Police Bureau (PPB), Smith remains in the hospital "in serious condition." He has not been charged with any crime, more than 48 hours after the mass shooting took place.

PPB has shared little information about the incident. Much of what the bureau has made public appears to be inaccurate. In a press release sent Sunday afternoon, PPB reported that the Saturday incident started with a "confrontation between an armed homeowner and armed protesters." Smith does not own the apartment complex he lives in, and it appears he was the sole individual who initiated the confrontation.

PPB has also refused to explain whether anyone has been arrested in relation to the shooting. Asked to clarify this position, PPB spokesperson Nathan Sheppard said that the reasoning is "complicated."

"Unfortunately, not all cases are simple," Sheppard wrote in an email to the Mercury. "In some, a determination has to be made of who is a suspect and who is a victim. Cases can be fluid, and as additional facts are learned, who is a victim and who is a suspect can also change."



"Unfortunately, not all cases are simple. . . " Well, damn, boy -- this one is simple: Rightwing dimwit shot up peaceful demonstrators, someone in the crowd of demonstrators was packing heat and stood his/her ground. Case closed. Maybe the next would-be shooter will think twice.

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