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riversedge

(70,270 posts)
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:35 AM Feb 2022

Rudy Giuliani poised to cooperate with January 6 committee

Source: the guardian




Trump’s former lawyer may reveal the roles played by Republicans to prevent certification of Joe Biden’s election victory


Last modified on Wed 23 Feb 2022 02.02 EST
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The move by Giuliani to appear before the panel – in a cooperation deal that could be agreed within weeks, according to two sources briefed on negotiations – could mark a breakthrough moment for the inquiry as it seeks to interview key members of Trump’s inner circle.

That is the case because even though Trump’s allies and Republican members of Congress already known to have been involved in such efforts have refused to help the panel, Giuliani is now in a position to inform House investigators about any possible culpability.

Broadly, Giuliani has indicated through his lawyer to the select committee that he will produce documents and answer questions about Trump’s schemes to return himself to office on 6 January that House investigators had outlined in a subpoena issued to him last month.


The former president’s attorney is prepared to reveal his contacts and the roles played by Republican members of Congress in the scheme Giuliani helped orchestrate to have then-vice-president Mike Pence stop the certification of Joe Biden’s election victory.

Giuliani is also prepared to divulge details about Trump’s pressure campaign on Pence to adopt the scheme, and the effort coordinated by him and the Trump White House to have legislatures certify slates of electors for Trump in states actually won by Biden.....................................


.............A spokesperson for the select committee declined to comment on negotiations with witnesses. The sources added negotiations could still collapse, but if a deal could be agreed, Giuliani would probably appear before the panel at least before the end of March.........................

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/22/giuliani-cooperate-january-6-committee



Well, we have heard this story before.







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Rudy Giuliani gestures as he speaks as Trump supporters gather by the White House ahead of his speech to contest the certification by the U.S. Congress of the results of the 2020 U.S. presidential election, January 2021.
Giuliani has indicated that he will produce documents and answer questions about Trump’s schemes to return himself to office on 6
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Rudy Giuliani poised to cooperate with January 6 committee (Original Post) riversedge Feb 2022 OP
tRump not paying up. Ghouliani hoarding cash to pay Dominion Voting Systems $1.3 billion. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #1
I wonder if he's been offered a deal EYESORE 9001 Feb 2022 #2
Same here. Same was reported just a week or so ago...but if he does...good! PortTack Feb 2022 #30
He'll say a LOT alright .... LenaBaby61 Feb 2022 #37
Rudy has no other option here. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2022 #3
They have lousy scotch in prison, even the country club lockups. Just the prospect of drying out brewens Feb 2022 #6
Yeah, Rudy has no real loyalty to Trump PatSeg Feb 2022 #12
Giuliani just like #FailedCoupGuy thought they would succeed. Big mistake, big price to pay. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #26
And it didn't help PatSeg Feb 2022 #31
What good does it do to testify before the select committee? gab13by13 Feb 2022 #4
Now suddenly doesn't believe Waddle Dump will win again and thus no pardon OTW? Brainfodder Feb 2022 #5
I'm skeptical as well. Magoo48 Feb 2022 #15
And word is getting out that DoJ is on the case. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #28
What does it say about legal ethics COL Mustard Feb 2022 #7
I hope Rudy had the goods on Ginni Thomas and her role in helping plan the coup. Lonestarblue Feb 2022 #8
To my ear he's never said anything definitive about anything bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #9
its going to be nothing more than a clown show. Meadowoak Feb 2022 #22
His most definitive comment: Giuliani: 'Truth isn't truth' csziggy Feb 2022 #27
cute... truthisfreedom Feb 2022 #10
Is he scared of prosecution? Or does he just want to continue justifying his illegal plot? Walleye Feb 2022 #11
It galls me that there are negotiable aspects to his cooperation. Harker Feb 2022 #13
I don't moniss Feb 2022 #14
When people realize they are facing a long prison sentence, They sing. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #16
In cases like this, I always put my hopes on self-centered assholes like Rudy. Beastly Boy Feb 2022 #17
This was reported here recently. The whole thing is bs. Talks. Possibly a couple niyad Feb 2022 #18
Heheh! lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #19
I'll believe it when I see it. (nt) Paladin Feb 2022 #20
They better not offer him immunity Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #21
The problem with Giuliani is he always seems incoherent. CaptainTruth Feb 2022 #23
I suspect the committee is far more interested in documentation of the crimes than Rudy's testimony. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #29
"Poised to," "could be," "is prepared to," "if a deal could be agreed," "would probably appear" Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #24
I think Rudy may have dementia. Trump sure took advantage of him. PatrickforB Feb 2022 #25
This could be, game over for Trump. Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #32
If he testifies, Bayard Feb 2022 #33
NOW: "... he will only cooperate if it's not pursuant to his subpoena ..." L. Coyote Feb 2022 #34
So, that's a no then. BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #35
Ivanka: L. Coyote Feb 2022 #36

LenaBaby61

(6,976 posts)
37. He'll say a LOT alright ....
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 07:10 PM
Feb 2022

All the while, taking the 5th most likely

I'd love for crazy, inebriated, sinking fast mentally Rudy to prove me wrong ......

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
3. Rudy has no other option here.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:43 AM
Feb 2022

Go to prison for the rest of his miserable life or DO THE RIGHT THING and cooperate.

Being in on this degrading scheme to steal an election at all costs to one's life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, carries a heavy burden. The question before Rudy Giuliani is..."Is Donald Trump worth going to prison over?"

brewens

(13,615 posts)
6. They have lousy scotch in prison, even the country club lockups. Just the prospect of drying out
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:56 AM
Feb 2022

should have Rudy singing like Pavarotti.

PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
12. Yeah, Rudy has no real loyalty to Trump
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:25 AM
Feb 2022

He will do what serves his own interests and Trump has nothing to offer him.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
26. Giuliani just like #FailedCoupGuy thought they would succeed. Big mistake, big price to pay.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:32 AM
Feb 2022

Hubris is a mean dog capable of biting your arse. And once they set the plans in motion, they had to be all in because quitting before losing meant going to jail. Eventually, they took over 1,000 co-conspirators down their rabbit hole, the biggest crime in American history.

PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
31. And it didn't help
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 12:05 PM
Feb 2022

that Giuliani is not that bright and rarely sober. They got away with so much for so long, they became arrogant and increasingly careless. I agree, that they had to be "all in" toward the end. Rudy was a prosecutor and knew he could be in legal jeopardy if they lost. Now his best option is to cooperate.

gab13by13

(21,379 posts)
4. What good does it do to testify before the select committee?
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:54 AM
Feb 2022

Why not before the FBI? Someone here told me that I should be aware that DOJ doesn't need criminal referrals to act.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
5. Now suddenly doesn't believe Waddle Dump will win again and thus no pardon OTW?
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:55 AM
Feb 2022


Skepticism continues here.

Might take 10 hours to read all the charges when that day arrives?



Magoo48

(4,717 posts)
15. I'm skeptical as well.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:36 AM
Feb 2022

We’ve seen this same headline a number of times now. So, ok. Now, when it happens is the time for the next headline. Until such time, it means nothing.

COL Mustard

(5,914 posts)
7. What does it say about legal ethics
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:58 AM
Feb 2022

When the President's lawyer needs a lawyer?

No offense to any lawyers reading this...just making a comment.

Lonestarblue

(10,038 posts)
8. I hope Rudy had the goods on Ginni Thomas and her role in helping plan the coup.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:00 AM
Feb 2022

Last edited Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:00 AM - Edit history (1)

Everyone on the Council for National Policy needs to be investigated. They are little more than an organized club determined to commit insurrection by overthrowing a legal government to establish their own. Republicans have created a lot of these organizations trying to subvert the will of voters.

Edited to add this: I just got around to reading the NYT this morning. I’m often annoyed with them because in the online version they leave some opinion pieces and articles on the opening page for 2-3 days. Today the Ginni Thomas piece has been taken off while other stories from yesterday are still there. I suspect someone got a phone call.

bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
9. To my ear he's never said anything definitive about anything
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:00 AM
Feb 2022

So I expect to see waffling and hedging and half-truths and lying and deflections and denials

Walleye

(31,035 posts)
11. Is he scared of prosecution? Or does he just want to continue justifying his illegal plot?
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:15 AM
Feb 2022

Could be he thinks his powers of persuasion are so irresistible that he can just talk his way out of it

Harker

(14,030 posts)
13. It galls me that there are negotiable aspects to his cooperation.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:34 AM
Feb 2022

It will probably assure a more useful outcome, but grr.

moniss

(4,274 posts)
14. I don't
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:35 AM
Feb 2022

trust this snake for one minute. I think he wants to muck about and find out what he can about what they know, plant false information and maybe get his face on TV at the hearings where he will spout more of his lunacy.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
16. When people realize they are facing a long prison sentence, They sing.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:23 AM
Feb 2022

It is just a matter of time before someone in Trumps inner circle turns. I believe Meadows will sing eventually. Rudy is under multiple investigations and he may now know he is screwed. There is a chance he could make a deal to try and limit how much time he spends in prison.

Beastly Boy

(9,393 posts)
17. In cases like this, I always put my hopes on self-centered assholes like Rudy.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:24 AM
Feb 2022

Unlike dedicated nazis such as Bannon, who will defend his ideological hilltop to the bitter end, self-centered assholes are always looking out for what benefits them personally at any given moment in time. When cornered, they are far more likely to sing, and the more self-centered they are, the louder they sing.

niyad

(113,510 posts)
18. This was reported here recently. The whole thing is bs. Talks. Possibly a couple
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:27 AM
Feb 2022

of weeks. Blah. Blah. While I understand that procedures must be followed, drunk ghouliani must be relishing his new moment in the spotlight.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,650 posts)
21. They better not offer him immunity
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:12 AM
Feb 2022

Let Rudy make a plea deal with the DOJ, not the committee.

My guess is Rudy is just letting Trump know he better kick in some cash for Rudy’s legal fees.

CaptainTruth

(6,599 posts)
23. The problem with Giuliani is he always seems incoherent.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:24 AM
Feb 2022

To me he doesn't come across as a credible information source.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
29. I suspect the committee is far more interested in documentation of the crimes than Rudy's testimony.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:38 AM
Feb 2022

But his e-mails.

Scrivener7

(50,989 posts)
24. "Poised to," "could be," "is prepared to," "if a deal could be agreed," "would probably appear"
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:26 AM
Feb 2022

I totally believe Lucy will hold that football steady this time.

And PS, what crap click-bait journalistic nonsense. The Guardian should be ashamed of themselves.

PatrickforB

(14,586 posts)
25. I think Rudy may have dementia. Trump sure took advantage of him.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:31 AM
Feb 2022

That said, it is hard for me to think of Giuliani and 'poised' in the same sentence.

Bayard

(22,123 posts)
33. If he testifies,
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 12:46 PM
Feb 2022

And we get anything useful, that will be a very good thing. But he best be hiring bodyguards.

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