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Stuart G

(38,454 posts)
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 11:04 PM Feb 2022

Russian Invasion of Ukraine Meets Stiff Resistence

Source: CNN

Russia's invasion of Ukraine is encountering "stiffer than expected" resistance from the Ukrainian military as well as unexpected difficulties supplying its forces, two senior US officials with direct knowledge tell CNN.

On the battlefield: Russia is suffering heavier losses in personnel and armor and aircraft than expected. This is due in part to the fact that Ukrainian air defenses have performed better than pre-invasion US intelligence assessments had anticipated.

In the air: In addition, Russia has yet to establish air supremacy over Ukraine, a senior defense official said, as the Ukrainian Air Force and air defense systems fight for control of the airspace.

"Ukrainian air defenses, including aircraft, do continue to be operable and continue to engage and deny access to Russian aircraft in places over the country," the official said.
Without uncontested control of the skies, it becomes more difficult for an army on the move to see and strike targets from the air.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/



Putin certainly did not expect these consequences. Not only military, but world wide as well . I think Putin thought this
would be a. ."Cake Walk" but it is something else. I haven't got a clue how it will end..
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OAITW r.2.0

(24,694 posts)
1. The Russian people are stepping out and supporting Ukraine against Putin aggression.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 11:28 PM
Feb 2022

His problems at home are probably a bigger threat to Putin than Ukraine ever was.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
2. Russia has not achieved air supremacy.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 11:37 PM
Feb 2022

So just want to remind the filthy state of russia. America has a pretty good Air Force. Like so good that we would smash you in a few hours. You filthy maggots.
You have lost puketin.

James48

(4,444 posts)
3. Never underestimate an enemy
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 11:59 PM
Feb 2022

Russia still has a very, very capable air force. Ours is spread thin. Ukraine is going to have to fight - good luck.

haele

(12,686 posts)
4. Russia has a good Air Force...
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 01:06 AM
Feb 2022

But jet fuel requires a lighter grade crude oil and heavily processed even then, while most Russian oil is heavy crude, good for diesel. With the sanctions, they don't have a lot of jet fuel in reserve.
They didn't think they had to use their jets because they expected the Ukrainians to roll over like they did in Crimea. They thought they'd just be mopping up by now.

Haele

cstanleytech

(26,341 posts)
9. Yup, the only reason the Russians were able to seize the land is they had a base established.
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 04:20 AM
Feb 2022

With the full invasion though of the entire country they will have a harder time and hopefully the Ukrainians can hold them off long enough for the Russians to give up due to cost in manpower and materials and the weight of the sanctions.
Sanctions which should not be reduced until Russia withdraws from all the the land its tried to steal.

blue-wave

(4,372 posts)
7. And Ukraine is fighting, for their life and future
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 02:27 AM
Feb 2022

Winning many battles also. Pooty likely thought he'd be mopping things up by now. Not the case.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
13. We gave Afghanistan stingers.
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 09:34 AM
Feb 2022

It is one of the reasons russia left Afghanistan. I sure hope we are giving Ukraine stingers.
When a single man on the ground can take out a jet fighter the field is leveled.
I agree that Ukraine is not going to roll over on this one. They don't want russian control.

DallasNE

(7,404 posts)
5. In The CNN Report
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 01:17 AM
Feb 2022

Is film of an armor vehicle that deliberately crosses the center line on a highway to run over a civilian car coming from the opposite direction, crushing the car. Such animals.

blue-wave

(4,372 posts)
8. FYI. That video is a couple days old
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 02:32 AM
Feb 2022

That armored vehicle was part of a Russian convoy and a gun battle with the Ukrainians (outside of that video's range) was raging all around. I'm happy to report that the people in the vehicle survived and are OK. The Russian convoy Including that Russian armored vehicle, well let's just they were all neutralized. I actually saw many videos of the battle from different angles.

onetexan

(13,074 posts)
10. "Cake walk"
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 04:31 AM
Feb 2022

The madman was emboldened by how easy that was and now thinks he can bowl over Ukrainians. They, and the world, are giving him a united f-you. Hopefully the good Russian people do too and force him out of power. He needs to be tried for crimes against humanity.

Post edit: Jus saw General Mccaffrey has access to US anti-tank missiles :
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/gen-mccaffrey-ukraine-has-access-to-u-s-anti-tank-missiles-to-help-ward-off-russian-attack-134131269885

Deminpenn

(15,292 posts)
11. The Russian people can't force Putin from power,
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 04:40 AM
Feb 2022

but his Kremlim inner circle and generals just might get alarmed enough to do it.

onetexan

(13,074 posts)
12. They can if they are united enough. The madman's actions have isolated the Russian people who will
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 04:44 AM
Feb 2022

suffer as a consequence. They call loudly enough, the armed forces and the oligarchs can revolt.

Stuart G

(38,454 posts)
14. It really has not gone the way Putin thought it would. The generals can force Putin out if they
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 04:10 PM
Feb 2022

are united enough. At 3pm ET on Sunday, who would have thought there would be this kind of resistance?

Deminpenn

(15,292 posts)
16. And now Zelensky has agreed to peace talks
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 06:45 PM
Feb 2022

Russia previously proposed although not inside Belarus, but at the border on the Ukrainian side as long as he is assured safe passage both ways.

Putin's plan was to overrun Ukraine in short order, then "negotiate". It wasn't to negotiate with a Ukraine that has managed to stalemate him.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
15. Vlad's wealthy "friends" are gonna say, "It's not personal, Vlad Vladomirovich. Is just business."
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 04:26 PM
Feb 2022

"You cost us whole lot of rubles. And value of ruble crashing. When you used to make us money, we were friends. Now? Not so much. Do svidaniya."

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