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Wicked Blue

(5,826 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:02 PM Mar 2022

World Court orders Russia to cease military operations in Ukraine

Source: Reuters

REUTERS

AMSTERDAM, March 16 (Reuters) - The International Court of Justice (ICJ) ordered Russia on Wednesday to stop the military actions it started in Ukraine on Feb. 24.

"The Russian Federation shall immediately suspend the military operations that it commenced on Feb 24, 2022 in the territory of Ukraine," the judges said.

The judges added Russia must also ensure that other forces under its control or supported by Moscow should not continue the military operation.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/world-court-orders-russia-cease-military-operations-ukraine-2022-03-16/?utm_source=reddit.com

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World Court orders Russia to cease military operations in Ukraine (Original Post) Wicked Blue Mar 2022 OP
Great, but how do they expect to enforce that order? Ocelot II Mar 2022 #1
They can't nt Wicked Blue Mar 2022 #2
only in the court of public opinion for now, but it is VERY important. mopinko Mar 2022 #9
This. LuvLoogie Mar 2022 #21
Anyone violating the order is subject to war crimes prosecution. Won't happen today, however ... L. Coyote Mar 2022 #12
USA not a member OrangeJoe Mar 2022 #29
Nor is the US a member of the ICC in the Hague and nor are burrowowl Mar 2022 #40
Biden may mention this in his speech in a few minutes, I would hope. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #3
Thanks! nt Wicked Blue Mar 2022 #5
Excellent! 👏👏👏👏 SheltieLover Mar 2022 #4
Could have made this announcement a couple weeks ago. nt oldsoftie Mar 2022 #6
It has no teeth, though. Ocelot II Mar 2022 #7
Putin will have to go stand in a corner for 35 minutes Wicked Blue Mar 2022 #10
it's one arrow in the quiver. mopinko Mar 2022 #11
Not now, certainly, but Hermann Goering, Rudolph Hess, Von Riddentropp, Martin Bormann and others hlthe2b Mar 2022 #17
Rogue nation with nukes ck4829 Mar 2022 #8
I would like to see Russia forced to give up its nukes Wicked Blue Mar 2022 #15
Yep ck4829 Mar 2022 #16
Works for me. Mr. Evil Mar 2022 #23
Germany was split up but came back. marie999 Mar 2022 #27
might not matter to pootie, but the generals are watching. mopinko Mar 2022 #13
Yes the Generals are watching KS Toronado Mar 2022 #33
Good one Traildogbob Mar 2022 #14
But after there's nothing left to eat, will they eat each other? Justice matters. Mar 2022 #37
Everything Traildogbob Mar 2022 #38
'Stop this war immediately': NATO chief tells Putin, says military alliance has been strengthened Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2022 #18
I'm sure Putin will get right on that. Texin Mar 2022 #19
Reparations for the cost of billions in destruction the russians have inflicted upon UKR must be onetexan Mar 2022 #20
No teeth, no enforcement ability, no punishment for disobeying. AZLD4Candidate Mar 2022 #22
Maybe Susan Collins can send them a sternly worded letter. Ray Bruns Mar 2022 #24
oh nooooooo Wicked Blue Mar 2022 #39
Charge And Trial In Absentia In The Hague...... Stainless Mar 2022 #25
Would rather put him in one of his nasty prisons leftieNanner Mar 2022 #26
Hoisted with their own petard EndlessWire Mar 2022 #28
Russia is committing war crimes LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #30
Putin's response: .bomb the theather. Stuart G Mar 2022 #31
oh yeah that will do it... ARE you kidding me?? YoshidaYui Mar 2022 #32
At least we can stop hearing about "investigation into possible war crimes" and other whitewashing colorado_ufo Mar 2022 #34
gmta. that exact thought crossed my mind. mopinko Mar 2022 #35
that's like a fart in a wind storm ! monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #36

mopinko

(70,068 posts)
9. only in the court of public opinion for now, but it is VERY important.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:11 PM
Mar 2022

every arrow in the quiver matters.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
12. Anyone violating the order is subject to war crimes prosecution. Won't happen today, however ...
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:13 PM
Mar 2022

take the case of Serbia for example, in due course war criminals were prosecuted and punished. Sadly, some of them run the country today after killing democracy and we should learn from that trajectory the importance of prosecuting all of them, not just the leader.

Brexit Buster
It was only a matter of time before we got a Spiked! article decrying the ICC in relation to war criminal Putin. In fact identical arguments were made in 1999 about Milosevic. Yet after his ousting, his own people handed him over to The Hague, although he died during the trial.



burrowowl

(17,636 posts)
40. Nor is the US a member of the ICC in the Hague and nor are
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 08:31 PM
Mar 2022

we signatory of the Human Rights Charter crafted by Eleanor Roosevelt.

mopinko

(70,068 posts)
11. it's one arrow in the quiver.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:13 PM
Mar 2022

and once the shooting does stop, it's straight to the haugue.
might not matter to pootie, but i'm thinkin it matters to the surviving generals.

hlthe2b

(102,192 posts)
17. Not now, certainly, but Hermann Goering, Rudolph Hess, Von Riddentropp, Martin Bormann and others
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:20 PM
Mar 2022

Last edited Wed Mar 16, 2022, 01:13 PM - Edit history (1)

at Nuremberg might beg to differ... And the Hague's most notorious practitioner of Yugoslavian genocide, Slobodan Milošević, as well.

If Russians get sufficiently fed up with Putin, it is not out of the question that he could be turned over to face war crimes charges.

Right now, it does only add to the official response and record, but given the propaganda war being waged, that is helpful

Wicked Blue

(5,826 posts)
15. I would like to see Russia forced to give up its nukes
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:15 PM
Mar 2022

and lose its UN Security Council vote

Also they would need to give Karelia and Ingria back to Finland, give Pskov back to Estonia, and give back whatever other territory was seized by the Soviet Union in the 1940s and beyond.

Mr. Evil

(2,833 posts)
23. Works for me.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 01:07 PM
Mar 2022


I'd go one step further. Russia should be splintered into pieces and never allowed to exist ever again.

KS Toronado

(17,183 posts)
33. Yes the Generals are watching
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 02:48 PM
Mar 2022

and they might be nervous about being charged with war crimes, that might be the solution to getting
rid of Putler, go after the Generals.

Traildogbob

(8,706 posts)
14. Good one
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:14 PM
Mar 2022

That will go over like a subpoena to trump, Meadows, Green, Bimbo Boebert or Gym Jordon. The courts will allow him to delay as long as a trump case. By then,🌍🚀💥🌚.
No worries, the billionaires can take their rockets up for 15 minutes and when they return the world will be theirs with no nasty poor folk around.
Wonder if Mar-A-Lardo has a bomb shelter. Or they think they have immunity to radiation, like they do laws?

Justice matters.

(6,925 posts)
37. But after there's nothing left to eat, will they eat each other?
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:37 PM
Mar 2022

And then, what will the sole survivor's daily menu be??

Radiation kills everything. Nuclear winter kills all.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,839 posts)
18. 'Stop this war immediately': NATO chief tells Putin, says military alliance has been strengthened
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:39 PM
Mar 2022

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg on Wednesday called on Russian President Vladimir Putin to "immediately" stop the war in Ukraine, adding that his efforts to undermine the alliance had failed.

"President Putin must stop this war immediately [and] engage in diplomacy in good faith," Stoltenberg said at an extraordinary meeting of NATO defense ministers in Brussels, Belgium.

At the same time, he said the military alliance had agreed to double down on its support for Ukraine, providing further military supplies, financial help and humanitarian aid.

Stoltenberg said that member states would expand their defenses across land, air, sea and space in response to the "new reality for our security," and applauded new financing commitments from Germany and Denmark.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stop-this-war-immediately-nato-chief-tells-putin-says-military-alliance-has-been-strengthened/ar-AAV8UwX

onetexan

(13,033 posts)
20. Reparations for the cost of billions in destruction the russians have inflicted upon UKR must be
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:41 PM
Mar 2022

made. Not to mention the disruption of their economy w devastating effects for years to come, the lives lost, the immense suffering, the wounded, the families broken up... How will the UKR be made whole again?

Stainless

(718 posts)
25. Charge And Trial In Absentia In The Hague......
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 01:31 PM
Mar 2022

Evidence of guilt is overwhelming and undeniable. Sentence Putrid to death and put a large bounty on his head. Place "Wanted: Dead or Alive" notices in every country to get peoples attention. Maybe even a Russian will claim the Bounty!


leftieNanner

(15,074 posts)
26. Would rather put him in one of his nasty prisons
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 01:37 PM
Mar 2022

Siberia. A tiny concrete cell with no windows. Solitary.

Put a cyanide pill on the table and give him the choice.

EndlessWire

(6,477 posts)
28. Hoisted with their own petard
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 01:59 PM
Mar 2022

Chickenshit Russia declined to appear at the Hague to defend themselves, but had sent a letter on March 7th with a response. The Court (with 15 judges; that's how many the US needs now) went through the requirements of jurisdiction which enabled them to make a provisional ruling. They cited numerous times the Russian representative had appeared before the UN to seek action on Ukraine, what they said about various matters, and therefore concluded, amongst other things, that they did indeed have jurisdiction to hear the case, that all the criteria required for the case had been considered and that it passed muster.

By a vote of 13 to 2, the ICJ ordered Russia to cease and desist all of what it's doing (making war in Ukraine.) Ukraine won all of what it asked the Court to do. It seemed that there was more to consider, but Ukraine had only asked the Court to make a judgment on the genocide aspect of the war, under that treaty (or whatever it is.)

While the ICJ can't exactly order any physical reaction to the war, this is a huge victory for Ukraine in the court of international opinion, and will set the stage for hauling Putin and his cronies off to jail.

I am hoping that the UN kicks Russia out of the UN. The decision today might possibly set the framework for that (?) as the UN is getting fed up. I know that it might set a precedent for actions against each other, but they can't get any work done on this issue with Russia having a veto. It is absurd to think that one nation can interfere with the vote on what it itself is doing. They should be required to abstain. They are probably not holding the chair legitimately, anyway. This has tainted all the decisions made with them as a member, and certainly will going forward.

This is an important provisional decision today. More to come.

YoshidaYui

(41,829 posts)
32. oh yeah that will do it... ARE you kidding me??
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 02:46 PM
Mar 2022

Do you think the Russian Military will just stop like that and pick up their toys and go home?? I bet Putin is laughing at the court while he FLIPS THEM THE BIRD.

colorado_ufo

(5,731 posts)
34. At least we can stop hearing about "investigation into possible war crimes" and other whitewashing
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 03:00 PM
Mar 2022

that is constantly used, despite the fact that anyone with a television set can see with their own eyes this genocidal horror. Russia needs to immediately cease and withdraw, or it is automatically indicted with war crimes; no drawn out investigation necessary.

Does Putin care? I doubt it, but his generals, ministers, advisors, and oligarchs certainly might.

Perhaps it would be a good time for broadcast television to replay the movie, "Judgment at Nuremberg." Maybe Anonymous can get it aired on Russian TV, with Russian subtitles.

mopinko

(70,068 posts)
35. gmta. that exact thought crossed my mind.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 04:00 PM
Mar 2022

like i said above, pootie might not care, but the generals are watching.
and so are the people. all.over.the.world.

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