Russia warns United States: we have the might to put you in your place
Source: Yahoo News
LONDON (Reuters) -Russia warned the United States on Thursday that Moscow had the might to put the world's pre-eminent superpower in its place and accused the West of stoking a wild Russophobic plot to tear Russia apart.
Dmitry Medvedev, who served as president from 2008 to 2012 and is now deputy secretary of Russia's Security Council, said the United States had stoked "disgusting" Russophobia in an attempt to force Russia to its knees.
"It will not work - Russia has the might to put all of our brash enemies in their place," Medvedev said.
Since Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24, the United States and its European and Asian allies have slapped sanctions on Russian leaders, companies and businessmen, cutting off Russia from much of the world economy.
Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/russia-put-enemies-united-states-074753510.html
Remind me to quake a little in my boots tonight
DinahMoeHum
(21,788 posts)ck4829
(35,076 posts)smb
(3,471 posts)"You have the right, but not the ability"
Walleye
(31,022 posts)Its not a phobia if the threat is real, morons
ck4829
(35,076 posts)I want Russians to leave Russia, I want them to move to the US, I want them to experience a life free from Putin, the Kremlin, Kirill, Kadyrov, the FSB, etc. I want them to be my neighbors.
And yet this is Russophobia.
msongs
(67,405 posts)ck4829
(35,076 posts)Escurumbele
(3,392 posts)There is good and bad everywhere, but the reality is that there is more good than bad, and that happens everywhere.
I don't know what you meant by "do you know any Russian people", an interesting question without follow up.
Rebl2
(13,507 posts)a cousin whose son in-law is Russian. Hes a very nice person who works hard. He is in his late 30s and his family came here when he was a child. I am sure there are many like him in this country and in Russia. I dont hate the Russian people, its the people like putin and his thugs I dont care for. Unfortunately some of his thugs live here in the United States and I think you know who I am talking about. In case you dont, its tfg.
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)My daughter-in-law and I brought gifts, ate, and smiled, as we did not speak a word of Russian! We still had a great time, and our American hosts prepared a fantastic full meal, from soup to dessert. This was a new experience for us, having only attended baby showers where cake and punch and stupid games were offered. All baby showers should be like this!
Escurumbele
(3,392 posts)the best solution is for them to get rid of Putin and to make sure they elect someone who will allow them to flourish in a free country, they have shown immense potential for good, just look at their athletes, the in-roads they have made in IT, unfortunately Putin uses them for bad, but they are very capable people, and at the end of the day, they are not very different from us.
I remember when I was a kid, about 14 years of age, I was in Europe with my family, one of my uncles was upset because the mechanic he had taken his car to was a crook, he had not fixed the car well but still charged him, etc. etc., and then I thought to myself "it seems mechanics are sort of the same everywhere", no offense to any mechanic who may be reading this, I have a mechanic who is very honest, I know there are many of you out there, but the norm has been that people tend not to trust mechanics. And then I realized by living in Europe for a year that besides our customs, our folklore, we as humans were exactly the same, we cared for the same things, etc. and Russians are no different. The same happened to me with a friend from Lebanon, the only thing that separated us was our religion, and our language, but same human wants and needs.
Walleye
(31,022 posts)20 different kinds of nationalities in as many blocks. Most all of them interesting friendly and intelligent. And the food could not be beat. I guess because Im so old and Ive been so many places I believe theres good and bad in every group theres no point in judging somebody by your prejudices because you stand a chance of being very wrong.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,120 posts)Say it loud and proud.
harumph
(1,900 posts)Ray Bruns
(4,097 posts)Give the Russian's army performance the last three weeks, I am not impressed.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)has decent exports. All Russia has is petroleum, and try as I may, I just can't keep it down in my stomach.
Now Italy!
Lonestarblue
(9,988 posts)The leaders of Russia have done nothing good for the world in the decades since the breakup of the USSR. If the US and the EU can sanction their government into the same fate as the USSR, good. Perhaps rational Russians can build a nation based on peaceful coexistence instead of constant war and aggression toward the free world in the form of constant cyber warfare.
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)I'm loving how the United States of America is standing tall again under President Joe Biden!
Initech
(100,075 posts)Make7
(8,543 posts)... which has exposed how degraded their military power has actually become.
Putin didn't want Ukraine to become a member of NATO. Apparently because NATO/The West would then be in a position to invade Russia. If Russia has the power to put the United States "in its place", why would Ukraine joining NATO be such an existential threat to Russia? Wouldn't he just put NATO in their place?
Irish_Dem
(47,058 posts)Justice matters.
(6,929 posts)These greedy assholes criminally waring don't seem to know both the UK and France could blow them up up in fumes (but all of us too), like the stupid blowhard idiots they are.
Irish_Dem
(47,058 posts)He doesn't stand a chance.
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)The nuclear things seems pretty out there, but who knows. Cyber attacks seem like something they could do. Although, I wonder if that would be considered an act of war if they did something major. Even if not, then I'm going to guess they know they would be hit back just as hard with cyber attacks.
Irish_Dem
(47,058 posts)They bought off half the US congress, sitting president and media.
They could increase that action plus cyber attacks.
Putin is capable of using nukes in my opinion. He is furious, humiliated and desperate. He wants to shift world power in his favor by any means.
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)has exposed Russia to the entire world. There can no longer be any doubt about how weak and inadequate Russia is thanks to an ineffective, arrogant leader.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Sounds like stilted, Soviet-era bullshit.
Brash enemies.
Irish_Dem
(47,058 posts)He has been wanting to put the US in its place for a long time. Putin wants to be the #1 superpower in the world.
Justice matters.
(6,929 posts)His cannon-fodder in Lada-era tanks doesn't know how to drive safely...
4Q2u2
(1,406 posts)You could not knock a squirrel off an acorn.
Clash City Rocker
(3,396 posts)That makes about as much sense as accusing a Jewish leader of being a Nazi.
taxi
(1,896 posts)how disappointing it was to fund republican efforts, only to learn their market is now the enemy.
Irish_Dem
(47,058 posts)That must be a big part of why Putin is so angry.
taxi
(1,896 posts)to tell the world of his attempt to coerce democracy through bribery wouldn't help his his position. So instead,
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)The ploy is to claim they are victimized for their own sins. Stop being mean to us for not living up to our own Christian morals.
nycbos
(6,034 posts)... Russia is getting bogged down by a "ragtag volunteer army." Do they really want to take on us, and not only us but the full might of NATO. Yes I know Russia has nukes. But we have nukes to, as does the UK, and as does France.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)wnylib
(21,464 posts)He might be thinking that, if he carried out the first strikes at the right targets, in several countries simultaneously, he could destroy everyone's capability of striking back.
Don't know if he is actually capable of doing that, or if his threats are empty bragging. I'm sure that our own Defense Department knows.
If the Russian corruption extends to the people responsible for overseeing the maintenance of nuclear weapons, then even his nuclear capability might be as bad as his ground troops.
OTOH, there are the nuclear subs. They are at least operational enough to be still floating around, presumably capable of making strikes and being positioned around major world ports.
But his boastful warnings do start to sound like blustering.
Irish_Dem
(47,058 posts)And yes there is the good possibility they could strike at major capitals in Europe and the US.
Of course now as you point out, we don't know how much the Russian corruption caused incompetence has damaged their capability.
Hopefully our military intelligence is on top of this.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,378 posts)but, you can be sure that there are US Hunter/Killer subs shadowing each and every one of those Russian subs with orders to sink them if they appear to be preparing for a launch.
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)to tear the U.S. apart by stoking wild conspiracy theories about many of our institutions and leaders? Do they see the irony or are they really that self-absorbed?
Putin is starting to look like a cartoon character.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)What we said as kids.
Obviously not the Russian Army.....
MiHale
(9,722 posts)Well have a bunch of pissed off ruskies in D.C..
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)"You do it to yourself", as Radiohead sang. They're creating their own nightmare.
rkleinberger
(155 posts)Thinks it can take on the US and NATO. Time to kick them to the Stone Age.
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)Oooh, I'm so scared
TrogL
(32,822 posts)If the maintenance money was stolen, they may have no fuel or will blow up in their silos.
Chainfire
(17,538 posts)TrogL
(32,822 posts)One faulty booster and I'm a sitting duck
tonekat
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Maeve
(42,282 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Its getting less and less impressive. Especially when Mini Me does it.
PSPS
(13,598 posts)I think russia itself did this when they started corrupting the GOP and our elections
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)Not with putler in charge you don't.
My daughter shared a meme the other day. It said, "Putin has taken the world's second best military and within 3 weeks has made it the second best military in the UKRAINE."
AZLD4Candidate
(5,689 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)I replied to her with a paraphrase of a quote from the movie Basic in 2003:
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Will you bury us with your failing third world economy or with your military thats currently getting its ass kicked by Ukrainia?
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)GDP of Russia: $1.5T
GDP of California: $3.35T
Okay, sure you will.
seta1950
(932 posts)He thinks he has the might🤨 , Id like US to show him might, but we are not bullies
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)maybe we need crypto funds to support those Russians who are actively working against, protesting or spreading the truth about Putin. Besides, look at what they did to us with disinformation?
Joinfortmill
(14,420 posts)ananda
(28,860 posts)Worth less than a fig...
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)cayugafalls
(5,640 posts)Fries, anyone?
tonekat
(1,815 posts)Meme of "Is potato."
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)RUSSIAN SOLDIERS SHOULD Go after PUTIN
MontanaMama
(23,314 posts)ColinC
(8,294 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,291 posts)So do we. And I recently have developed a very strong feeling that our stuff works a lot better than yours. If yours works at all, of course.
Aviation Pro
(12,167 posts)I invite you to idet tebya mat', you fucking Slav.
dalton99a
(81,486 posts)Tremendous beautiful army, the best army ever
piddyprints
(14,642 posts)Ukraine is kicking their butt, but they are ready to take on everyone else?
I wish we could find a way to wrap Putin and TFG in the same straight jacket.
Karma13612
(4,552 posts)Is thinking of cyber attacks?
Those could humble us pretty quickly if they have access to power grids, or the internet, or water systems, or traffic, or even some government systems. I know we have had hacks in recent years and they might have things ready to go on the back burner.
I am not playing devils advocate or trying to stir up trouble. I am just wondering if this could be an effective plan.
Please tell me our networks are better now than they were in the past!!!
Talitha
(6,589 posts)I thought I heard or read it somewhere.
Karma13612
(4,552 posts)But then again, they could be working with other allies that could fill in as the cyber hacks.
Again, I would be thrilled if they have reduced or eliminated this effort. I would imagine we can give as good as we receive in this arena anyway!!! Hopefully!
Thunderbeast
(3,410 posts)Much like North Korea.
Now that their invasion has crippled the "bread basket" in Ukraine (that grows much of the wheat that Russians eat), THEIR suffering population will be hungry as well.
Another enlightened move by another great dictator.
Testosterone flows abundantly in this one....
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)I guess it's true, but the missiles would be flying both ways, so it would be the most gigantically Pyrrhic victory possible. Everyone that can tie their own shoes knows that.
As they can't put a relatively tiny military power "in its place" I don't fancy their chances of putting a country that spends 39% of all military spending in the world "in its place."
I'd even spot them an uncontested landing spot until the bullets start flying...then count the hours - not weeks - that it would take to leave their forces in its own smouldering ruin. With the understanding that, at that point, the US gets to say "Our turn."
What a ridiculous and reckless position for him to take. If there were no nuclear weapons anywhere on the planet, the invasion would already be a pile of scrap metal and many thousands of surrendered or dead prisoners if NATO started hitting back on Ukraine's behalf.
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Duppers
(28,120 posts)Collimator
(1,639 posts)From the day those beautiful, inspiring words about the essential dignity and rights of humans were put to paper, and then immediately sullied by people insisting, "oh, but not those humans", we have been at war with ourselves.
Nothing that an enemy can do to us with bombs or deprivation or words can damage us as much as giving in to our own worst inclinations.
Threatening to "put us in our place"? Please! So many Americans are filled with longing to put other Americans "in their place". Overtly attacking us from outside won't further Putin's goals. Doing that will only show how many often disadvantaged, marginalized people will nonetheless fight for their country.
Any White person whose dad or other family member fought in WWII should take a moment from their pride, (which is justifiable, of course) and stand in solemn awe of every person of color--especially Japanese-Americans--who also took up that fight. Those people's faith in our flawed nation with its beautiful ideas fill me with tears.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,985 posts)Unless their plan is to nuke the world because they're not adult enough to admit they fucked up.
Slammer
(714 posts)I wonder if they consider "our place" to be a smoking radioactive ruin.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)Weve heard all this nazi bullshit before. Your very weak army and your cratered economy really scares the shit out of us.
The new Baghdad Bob
Socal31
(2,484 posts)The collective display of ignorance in regard to strategic nuclear weapons capability, doctrine, and willingness to deploy, is quite startling.
Irish_Dem
(47,058 posts)intrepidity
(7,296 posts)orangecrush
(19,555 posts)Don't bark.