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NHvet

(240 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:15 PM Mar 2022

Sen. Mitt Romney suggests he'd back cutting retirement benefits for younger Americans

Source: Business Insider

Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah suggested that he'd favor cutting retirement benefits for younger Americans in a bid to stabilize safety net programs.

"If we're ever going to get a handle on our debt, we're gonna have to find a way to either increase revenue, which I don't favor, or find a way to adjust our long-term benefits not for current retirees," he said at a Senate Budget Committee hearing on Wednesday, seemingly ruling out any tax hikes

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/mitt-romney-retirement-benefits-for-younger-americans-2022-3



I guess Fraudster Rick Scott has someone else in his corner to willingly help decimate the two working safety nets for senior Americans. But I guess we already knew this about 47% Mitt.
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Sen. Mitt Romney suggests he'd back cutting retirement benefits for younger Americans (Original Post) NHvet Mar 2022 OP
I support cutting his retirement to zero. He's done nothing to deserve one. Fuck Romney. Autumn Mar 2022 #1
AGREED! Rebl2 Mar 2022 #6
It is time to eliminate the wealth categories of Billionaire$ and above. Place taxes on them NCjack Mar 2022 #20
Romney, at times called the sensible republican... brush Apr 2022 #59
Sensible republicans and decent republican are two things that do not exist. They are unicorns. Autumn Apr 2022 #65
+1000 Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #60
What businessman Maine Abu El Banat Mar 2022 #2
Rich businessmen who get their cut regaerdless? Marthe48 Mar 2022 #24
Says the Rebl2 Mar 2022 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Apr 2022 #57
Cuttting the Trillion dollar tax cut and raising the cap on Social Security are ways to keep it on t Historic NY Mar 2022 #4
Another thing that might help people is increasing corporate taxes to 60%. cstanleytech Mar 2022 #25
+1000 paleotn Mar 2022 #40
Exactly. Problem solved! notinkansas Apr 2022 #64
Don't raise the cap inthewind21 Apr 2022 #68
... Javaman Mar 2022 #5
Look at his face -- he now has deduced that Trump is stomping him. NCjack Mar 2022 #22
rummy needs to back the rich paying their share of SS but like all fascists he likes to rob the poor yaesu Mar 2022 #7
I thought the supply-side tax cuts were going to increase revenues through economic growth. Midnight Writer Mar 2022 #8
Good question and thread winner. yonder Mar 2022 #26
Oh, now that's a Laffer.... paleotn Mar 2022 #41
This the only thing that I have in common with those trumpers carrying signs saying NHvet Mar 2022 #9
Reminds me of a workers strike DENVERPOPS Mar 2022 #10
Divide and Conquer. n/t MarcA Mar 2022 #18
More Like: DENVERPOPS Mar 2022 #49
Way inthewind21 Apr 2022 #69
Of course he does. Solly Mack Mar 2022 #11
I suppose next he will say Diamond_Dog Mar 2022 #12
The only thing these idiots are good at: blue sky at night Mar 2022 #13
Part of end goal of Oligarchs owning everything and everyone. MarcA Mar 2022 #14
If they can work and be poor they will be used to it when they retire. twodogsbarking Mar 2022 #19
That should make Mitt very popular with the post-boomers RainCaster Mar 2022 #15
Translation. I want money for being stupid too. twodogsbarking Mar 2022 #16
FU Mitt you dick. The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #17
Yep what do you call a "guy" sitting in the position of power BAIN CAPITAL.... turbinetree Mar 2022 #21
Why wait. Mittens? TheRealNorth Mar 2022 #23
One more thought.... TheRealNorth Mar 2022 #27
And what really classic is that they run around being "compassionate conservatives " turbinetree Mar 2022 #36
'I got mine. Screw you.' keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #28
That should be the GOP motto. TheRealNorth Mar 2022 #29
OR, Remove the cap so that high income people pay fica like the rest of us. mahina Mar 2022 #30
Coventina suggests oiling up a few guillotines. Coventina Mar 2022 #31
47% darosky Mar 2022 #32
"Keep my retirement benefits' name out of your fucking mouth!" Efilroft Sul Mar 2022 #33
Remove the SS cap. Minimum corp rate. Minimum rate for super rich. VAT tax. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #34
Social Security comes from Social Security taxes not from regular taxes. LiberalFighter Mar 2022 #35
First the GOP kills older Americans during COVID IronLionZion Mar 2022 #37
Social Security Doesn't Add One Goddamned Dime... GB_RN Mar 2022 #38
As Unions have declined retirement benefits have gone away and............... UGADawg Mar 2022 #39
No. catrose Mar 2022 #42
Cut our now $813 billion in "defense" spending Curtis Mar 2022 #43
+1 n/t area51 Mar 2022 #50
Absolutely OrangeJoe Apr 2022 #67
The issue is income inequality TexasBushwhacker Mar 2022 #44
"adjust our long-term benefits" LudwigPastorius Mar 2022 #45
Why don't we stuff Mitt in a dog crate instead? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2022 #46
How does he define "younger Americans." Last time this floated, younger was 55 years old . . . Journeyman Mar 2022 #47
I'd like to think this would get the young voters out DavidDvorkin Mar 2022 #48
Selfishness, one of the cornerstones of the repug (fascist) party. nt Hotler Mar 2022 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author PatrickforB Mar 2022 #52
No thanks, Mitt! McKim Mar 2022 #53
Good luck with that Mitt. Many of them can read, and many of them vote. Martin68 Mar 2022 #54
This is so GOP... Grins Apr 2022 #55
Of course you would, Mittens.... lastlib Apr 2022 #56
... jfz9580m Apr 2022 #58
Tell you what, Senator 47%... 2naSalit Apr 2022 #61
We need to start drug testing Republicans! Emile Apr 2022 #62
Yes, I had read that a $500,000 SS cap would fund SS for 20+ more years. Then, if the cap was... machoneman Apr 2022 #63
Well, if those young people on Twitter don't get their student loans forgiven Moebym Apr 2022 #66
What exactly inthewind21 Apr 2022 #70
Strict Means-Testing IbogaProject Apr 2022 #71
Let's pass a "free to kick puppys" and "push down old lady's down" Bill also. OverBurn Apr 2022 #72

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
20. It is time to eliminate the wealth categories of Billionaire$ and above. Place taxes on them
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:38 PM
Mar 2022

and within a few years, reduce them to Millionaire$.

brush

(53,843 posts)
59. Romney, at times called the sensible republican...
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 06:24 AM
Apr 2022

makes litte sense here.

Talk about failing to read the room.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
65. Sensible republicans and decent republican are two things that do not exist. They are unicorns.
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 10:46 AM
Apr 2022

Anyone looking for any of those are on a fools errand.

Marthe48

(17,018 posts)
24. Rich businessmen who get their cut regaerdless?
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:44 PM
Mar 2022

I don't think romney is a businessman. I think he spots vulnerable businesses he can take apart for his own gain, and damn everyone who put time, effort or money into the business on his chopping block.

Response to Rebl2 (Reply #3)

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
4. Cuttting the Trillion dollar tax cut and raising the cap on Social Security are ways to keep it on t
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:19 PM
Mar 2022

track. Telling a younger person they have to contribute but won't get much in the end, isn't an incentive to work on the table.

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
25. Another thing that might help people is increasing corporate taxes to 60%.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:48 PM
Mar 2022

However corporations can lower their taxes if they meet certain criteria.
#1 Corporate headquarters located inside the US = 5% lower taxes.
#2 Linking their taxes to the number of employees they have worldwide to the number of employees they have inside the US. The larger the workforce and the larger the % that are here inside the US they get get a lower tax rate with the lowest being 40%.
#3 If they reach the 40% that then kicks in potential access to the last tax break which is linked to the number of employees they have here inside the US as well as the number of them that earn more than 300% over the federal poverty level which is to be set by the General Accounting Office every year with zero ability under law for the House or President to interfere with.
If say a corporation with 6000 people worldwide has 80% of them here inside the US the corporation can get a progressively lower tax rate with the lowest being 0% but they would have to pay all of those 80% more than 300% over the federal poverty level.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
7. rummy needs to back the rich paying their share of SS but like all fascists he likes to rob the poor
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:21 PM
Mar 2022

to give to the rich

Midnight Writer

(21,795 posts)
8. I thought the supply-side tax cuts were going to increase revenues through economic growth.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:21 PM
Mar 2022

Whatever happened to that fairy tale?

paleotn

(17,956 posts)
41. Oh, now that's a Laffer....
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:08 PM
Mar 2022

The most aptly named economic hypothesis in history. I like to call it the ass curve because that's were Laffer pulled it out of...his ass.

NHvet

(240 posts)
9. This the only thing that I have in common with those trumpers carrying signs saying
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:23 PM
Mar 2022

"KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY SS AND MEDICARE!! I PAID FOR THEM AND EARNED THEM!!"

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
10. Reminds me of a workers strike
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:23 PM
Mar 2022

at Safeway a decade ago..............

The negotiations with these striking workers including that they would leave the existing workers wages the same, but it required the existing workers to agree that all future hires could be at a much lower rate of pay..........

AND THE EXISTING WORKERS SIGNED THAT LOWER RATE OF PAY CONTRACT FOR ALL NEW HIRES....................

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
49. More Like:
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 08:23 PM
Mar 2022

Got mine, screw you...........

Of course the only reason the guys at the higher rate, got that higher rate, was because the workers before him refused to sell out him and the other new hires.......

And then, of course, there are the companies where workers don't have to join the union, but get to enjoy the wages and fringe that the Union workers fought for and won.......Is that fucked, or what.........

Diamond_Dog

(32,057 posts)
12. I suppose next he will say
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:28 PM
Mar 2022

“ask your parents for it”

Doesn’t everyone have a trust fund set up for their future by Mummy and Father?

Yeesh this guy is clueless about life in the real world!

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
14. Part of end goal of Oligarchs owning everything and everyone.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:31 PM
Mar 2022

Keep the masses uneducated, poor, in debt and for the women, pregnant.
Of course, the Oligarchs are the truly useless eaters and breathers.
Support a democratic state and government and organize with your friends
and families.

RainCaster

(10,914 posts)
15. That should make Mitt very popular with the post-boomers
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:33 PM
Mar 2022

GOTV people- these people need to be retired.

twodogsbarking

(9,805 posts)
16. Translation. I want money for being stupid too.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:35 PM
Mar 2022

I've been practicing hard and I am as stupid as I can get, maybe.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
21. Yep what do you call a "guy" sitting in the position of power BAIN CAPITAL....
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:38 PM
Mar 2022

the same jerk that sent jobs overseas so the middle class would not have any money coming in and then blaming them for whining while he was swimming at his 5 level home in California .....but he can sit in that Washington office and take taxpayers checks from the people that he wants to fuck over......they usually call that a psychopath.......

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
23. Why wait. Mittens?
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:43 PM
Mar 2022

Let's cut now. What, you don't want to lose the support of the Baby Boomers and Gen X'rs that will soon to be retiring?

Well then, fuck you. We have known for 20 years this was coming. You didn't want to increase SSI revenues by either taxing a higher percentage or increasing the income cap that SSI is taxed. So instead, you and the fucking Republicans want to screw young people even more.

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
27. One more thought....
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:54 PM
Mar 2022

Have they recalculated social security to take into account the number of elderly that Covid took out?

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
36. And what really classic is that they run around being "compassionate conservatives "
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 06:02 PM
Mar 2022

and that BS moniker.....

mahina

(17,696 posts)
30. OR, Remove the cap so that high income people pay fica like the rest of us.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:56 PM
Mar 2022

At least lift the cap if not remove it completely. That would take a huge step towards solving the problems and it wouldn’t further alienate young people

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
31. Coventina suggests oiling up a few guillotines.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 05:11 PM
Mar 2022

DUer Coventina of Arizona suggested that she'd favor preparing some guillotines for possible service.

"The Billionaires of this country have been shown time and again that they are not paying their fair share into this country. We're gonna have to find a way to encourage these parasites to do the right thing, and asking nicely doesn't seem to be working. I'm wondering why it's only called 'class warfare' when the poor fight back?" she said upon reading the latest attempt from the Billionaire Romney to point the finger of blame at hardworking, actual tax-paying citizens.

LiberalFighter

(51,084 posts)
35. Social Security comes from Social Security taxes not from regular taxes.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 05:50 PM
Mar 2022

He needs to keep his scummy hands off our Social Security.

IronLionZion

(45,528 posts)
37. First the GOP kills older Americans during COVID
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 06:15 PM
Mar 2022

telling them to sacrifice themselves for their grandkids or whatever for the economy. Now they screw the grandkids.

The pro-life party might have fewer voters this election year and they want to lose young people. Super idea

GB_RN

(2,373 posts)
38. Social Security Doesn't Add One Goddamned Dime...
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 06:48 PM
Mar 2022

To the debt. SS is funded through a completely separate tax mechanism, as is Medicare. RMoney is lying through his teeth! Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.🤬

UGADawg

(501 posts)
39. As Unions have declined retirement benefits have gone away and...............
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 06:55 PM
Mar 2022

401k's are "fake retirements"

I told my brother in law that he should get no comfort from his 401K. It is only "gravy".

The threat of a union got me a defined benefit pension plan. THE THREAT!

Romney is a thief!

Curtis

(348 posts)
43. Cut our now $813 billion in "defense" spending
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:23 PM
Mar 2022

Cut it in half easily and we still spend way more than any other nation. This couple with taxing the wealthy as they should be taxed would erase the deficit over night and begin on paying down our debt. There is no reason to go after the middle and lower classes

TexasBushwhacker

(20,214 posts)
44. The issue is income inequality
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:23 PM
Mar 2022

When CEOs and other executives weren't making THOUSANDS of times the average worker, Social Security worked fine as long as 90% of wages were taxed. Because of the shrinking middle class and more and more $$$ going to people making over $400K, only about 84 % of wages are subject to SS taxes, and it's getting worse.

Personally, I like the donut hole idea that some have proposed. Make first cap $150K, then leave an untaxed window up to $500K. Then the wages over $500K would be subject to Social Security taxes. That untaxed window could be adjusted as needed, to hit the magic 90% mark. Hell, they might even be able to raise benefits more than the ridiculous COLAs they have now. SS would be solvent in perpetuity.

What idiots, including Romney, forget is that Social Security payments go straight back into the economy. Lowering payments HURTS the economy overall, and that's bad for everyone!

LudwigPastorius

(9,170 posts)
45. "adjust our long-term benefits"
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:38 PM
Mar 2022

Like the way Elizabeth had Mary Queen of Scots' height "adjusted"?

Even a once-in-a-blue-moon-right Republican is still a d-bag Republican.

Journeyman

(15,038 posts)
47. How does he define "younger Americans." Last time this floated, younger was 55 years old . . .
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 08:02 PM
Mar 2022

and below. How tragic would that be? That people ten years from collecting SS be told their share in it will be reduced since they have "time to make alternate investments to make up for the loss"?

DavidDvorkin

(19,485 posts)
48. I'd like to think this would get the young voters out
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 08:04 PM
Mar 2022

And voting the straight Democratic ticket. I like to dream.

Response to NHvet (Original post)

McKim

(2,412 posts)
53. No thanks, Mitt!
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 11:06 PM
Mar 2022

No thanks, Mitt, our young people have already been screwed over economically enough!!! Expensive college, unemployment, cheap wages, high debt for college and then the pandemic!!!!!

Grins

(7,228 posts)
55. This is so GOP...
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 12:10 AM
Apr 2022
“…we're gonna have to find a way to…increase revenue, which I don't favor…”

Of course you don’t. You’d rather borrow and let the people too young to vote for you get hammered.

We DON’T have a tax problem. We have a revenue problem.
Republicans have made taxes, progressive taxes, a dirty word.

lastlib

(23,286 posts)
56. Of course you would, Mittens....
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 01:30 AM
Apr 2022

Your financial future is secure, and you don't give a flying f*ck about anyone lower on the economic ladder. And you sure as h*** don't want anybody cutting into your pie to help someone else whose future isn't so secure. GFY, Mittens. With a pitchfork.

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
61. Tell you what, Senator 47%...
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 07:35 AM
Apr 2022

It wouldn't even be a concept if you and your ilk actually fucking paid YOUR fair share of taxes.

Social programs are what taxes are for, idiot.

Fuck you, pay some fucking taxes.

machoneman

(4,010 posts)
63. Yes, I had read that a $500,000 SS cap would fund SS for 20+ more years. Then, if the cap was...
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 09:45 AM
Apr 2022

...unlimited (ergo, in the millions) SS would NEVER run out of money.

Heck, even a Forbes economist says lets do it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2021/12/31/raise-the-social-security-capnow-the-rich-pay-through-new-year-days-brunch/?sh=6d139427ea95

Moebym

(989 posts)
66. Well, if those young people on Twitter don't get their student loans forgiven
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 11:00 AM
Apr 2022

They've threatened to stop paying into SS to get back at the "boomers" who've ruined their lives.

Well, if they want to get back at the "boomers", all they have to do is either not vote at all or vote for the GOP. Once in power, the GOP will lay waste to SS...and damn near everything else we've accomplished.

But hey, they got back at the boomers.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
70. What exactly
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 02:58 PM
Apr 2022

Did boomers accomplish? I know what their parents, "the greatest generation" did but not finding much on accomplishments other than reaping the benefits bestowed by their parents and then destroying the same for their children.

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