Russian warship Moskva has sunk - defence ministry

[pnwmom]

Source: BBC News

A Russian warship that was damaged by an explosion on Wednesday has sunk, Russia's defence ministry has said.

Moskva, the flagship of Russia's Black Sea fleet, was being towed to port when "stormy seas" caused it to sink, according to a ministry message.

The 510-crew vessel was a symbol of Russia's military power, and has led Russia's naval assault on Ukraine.

Kyiv claims it struck the warship with its missiles, but Moscow has made no mention of an attack.


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russian warships all moving away from ukrainian coastline

odd decision since kremlin said sinking of moskva was an accident, not the result of a ukrainian missile strike

[doc03]

1. What a tragity

[lagomorph777]

2. Excellent.

We need to help Ukraine finish off the Black Sea fleet.

I'll bet Reaper drones would help.

[Torchlight]

3. Yeah... I'm gonna refer to Putin as Wiley E. Coyote from now on

He's pretty much earned it.

[sheshe2]

4. Well well well.

Finally, some good news.

[Talitha]

5. Hahahahaha!!!!

[speak easy]

6. The R-360 'Stormy Seas'

... better known as the Naptun

[ffr]

8. Strange how the stupid ship has air defenses on it

And yet, all those advanced systems failed.

[speak easy]

9. maintenance ... training ?

[Layzeebeaver]

14. This!!

[Calista241]

16. Both. The air defense radar of the Moskva had not been modernized, and was directional

The Ukrainians flew a drone out to the ship the day before to see what happened, and the Russians posted video of their response and firing a missile at the drone on Telegram. The Ukrainians did the same thing the next day, in heavy seas, and then fired missiles at the ship while it was distracted with the drone.

[orangecrush]

28. Sneaky!

[LT Barclay]

30. Sometimes I wonder if the modern Russian navy is even a match for what we had in WW2. I've been

reading a small book I bought at the USS Kidd and even in WW2 a destroyer was capable of tracking multiple targets.

[ffr]

7. Damn! That's terrible news.

I was hoping Putin was on it.

Maybe next time. Keep at it Ukraine!

[LiberalLovinLug]

10. Be a shame if some random accidental explosions happened on board of the other Russian ships

[COL Mustard]

11. Excellent news

But the Russian MoD is essentially saying "Look over here! No Ukrainians over here!!!! Out in the middle of the Black Sea!!!"

[pecosbob]

12. Oh, it was sad when that great ship went down! C'mon everyone, all together!

[blue-wave]

13. Only one of many

Russian warships swimming with the fishes, I hope.

[Dial H For Hero]

15. Really?

[BlueWavePsych]

17. oh no ...

[EX500rider]

18. I like how the Russians think incompetence is a better story then combat loss.

Extreme incompetence really for a ship to have a fire that spreads to a magazine and blows the ship up, without competent damage control/fire fighting/magazine flooding.
I don't think the US Navy has lost a surface combat vessel like that since the USS Maine in 1898.

[sarisataka]

19. I was just discussing that with my brother

Is that somehow the Russians think saying our ship sunk because of a fire detonated ammunition is somehow better than saying the enemy struck our ship with anti-ship missiles.

Ships lost to enemy action is perfectly normal and has occurred thousands of times throughout history. Ships have also been lost to stupidity or poor training but that is less natural and more concerning for whoever owned the ship

[olddad65]

20. The US came close to losing a couple of aircraft carriers to fire during the war in Vietnam.

The USS Forestal and the USS Oriskany.

[EX500rider]

21. Yeah but competent damage control saved the day.

The Russians think saying they lost it to incompetence is somehow better...lol

[EX500rider]

22. I lived in Portsmouth VA across from Norfolk and saw the Forrestal come in

(I think it was her, I was 5, she had a big section of the stern missing)

[Efilroft Sul]

23. Geto Boys sum up how I feel about the Russian sailors.

[orangecrush]

27. ....

[Eugene]

24. No missile. The Russian warship just went and f**ked itself.

Riiight!

[pnwmom]

29. And sheer incompetence is so much better, in Putin's opinion.

Okay, I'll take either option.

[honest.abe]

25. If only Captain Putin had gone down with the ship.

[orangecrush]

26. Bummer

[Wolf Frankula]

31. Putin's Crew by Leslie Fish.

Sing to the tune of "Barrett's Privateers."


PUTIN'S CREW

Oh, the Moskva was flagship of our fleet.

-- How I wish I was in Sevastopol! --

She'd sailed since 1979,

Under different names with changing times.

(Chorus) God damn them all! We were told,

We'd just show up and the Ukes would fold.

They would never fight, but I'll tell you,

I'm a broken wreck after what I've been through:

The last of Vladimir Putin's crew.

The Russian navy scoured its ranks

-- how I wish I was in Sevastopol! --

For a good five hundred sailors who

Would make enough for the Moskva's crew. (Chorus)


She needed that many, just to sail

-- how I wish I was in Sevastopol! --

Her discipline was a savage shame.

She should have kept her original name. (Chorus)


Yes, the Moskva was an impressive sight.

-- how I wish I was in Sevastopol! --

But she chased more ships than she ever caught,

And was dry-docked more than she ever fought. (Chorus)


She carried missiles, a dozen and more.

-- How I wish I was in Sevastopol! --

She'd sailed the Med for forty years,

And fought just once in her whole career. (Chorus)


Then we were sent to the north Black Sea.

-- How I wish I was in Sevastopol! --

We went to pummel the towns on shore

In Putin's new Ukrainian war. (Chorus)


The Ukes had rockets based on shore

-- How I wish I was in Sevastopol! --

We were sent to run their death-count higher,

But with one smart shot they set us on fire. (Chorus)


We fought like mad to contain the flames.

-- How I wish I was in Sevastopol! --

We hoped we'd still give the Ukes the slip,

'Til our captain ordered: "Abandon ship!" (Chorus)


So here we sit on Snake Island now.

-- How I wish I was in Sevastopol! --

Suffering burns and drunk as sin,

Hoping that the Ukes will take us in. (Chorus)


--Leslie <

https://lesliebard.blogspot.com/

Wolf

[EX500rider]

32. Largest warship lost in combat since WWII

Bigger then the ARA General Belgrano (Argentine Navy light cruiser, ex-Brooklyn-class cruiser USS Phoenix) sunk by a British nuclear sub in 1982.
She was 608ft/12,242 tons The Moskva was 611.5 ft/12,490 tons

Belgrano:


Moskva: