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brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:29 PM Jun 2022

Defense Department to keep access to "reproductive health care" after Roe v. Wade's end

Source: Axios

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Friday that the Pentagon is working to ensure that members of the military, their families and its civilian employees will still have access to "reproductive health care" after the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Why it matters: The Defense Department currently does not have a policy to accommodate service members or employees who are seeking an abortion but are stationed in a state that has outlawed abortion, Politico reports.

Federal law currently allows military medical facilities to provide abortions only in cases of rape, incest or if a woman’s life is in danger, while the military's health program is allowed to cover abortions at private facilities for those same reasons only.

What they're saying: "Nothing is more important to me or to this Department than the health and well-being of our Service members, the civilian workforce and DOD families," Austin said in a statement on Friday.



Read more: https://www.axios.com/2022/06/25/defense-department-abortion-access-roe-v-wade
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tirebiter

(2,537 posts)
2. Understand, now this is the choice of the president. It has limited coverage of who and where..
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:54 PM
Jun 2022

If the Republicans get the Preidency in 2024 or anytime thereafter without a change in the SCOTUS or the law, then it’s over. This does only pertain to active duty personnel or their dependents, regardless. I don’t think USAA would cover this. ACA would be covered by state rules as would universal Medicare.

kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)
3. Just words/vibes. See this:
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 12:26 AM
Jun 2022

"Federal law currently allows military medical facilities to provide abortions only in cases of rape, incest or if a woman’s life is in danger, while the military's health program is allowed to cover abortions at private facilities for those same reasons only."

Good luck getting the votes in congress (particularly the Senate) to overrule that.

tirebiter

(2,537 posts)
4. I think that would have to with the Hyde Amendment
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 12:33 AM
Jun 2022

Which was not passed into law this year. Biden thought ahead on that one. I’m finding it hard to find anything substantive on this.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
5. The Hyde Amendment *is* currently in place
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:40 AM
Jun 2022

Biden "thought ahead of time" in his proposal for the 2023 budget, but there is no sign that he can get a budget passed without it.

It was dropped from the 2022 budget when proposed as well... but we weren't able to get that passed.

It was a "red line" for Manchin. There aren't 51 votes to drop it, let alone the 60 needed to bypass a filibuster.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
6. Can't tell what this means in practice
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:43 AM
Jun 2022

Perhaps they're saying that they'll allow for travel to another state?

I suppose it could be saying that if you're in a state that bans abortion including in cases of rape/incest that the military medical services will still provide one... but I'm not sure that they have that option. Have to look at how Hyde rubs up against federal enclave doctrine

LeftInTX

(25,364 posts)
8. Military bases cover abortion under those strict criteria.
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 02:43 PM
Jun 2022

Military bases within a state are generally exempt from state laws. They would not need to travel to another state.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
10. Right - which is why I'm still wondering what the effect is
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:00 PM
Jun 2022

As you say - it's a pretty strict set of standards currently and they aren't changing.

The only thing I could think of was that (previously), someone in the military who needed an abortion (outside these narrow constraints) would have to leave the base and go out into town to see a civilian doctor. But now it's a much bigger deal if they have to travel hundreds of miles for a few days. Servicemembers can't always do get enough leave within a desired timeline.

I guessed that what they were saying was that the services were prepared to accommodate such needs.

I've seen much wilder speculation that the president should set up clinics in the ban states on federal property to overcome state laws, but I don't consider that credible (and certainly don't see it implied here).

IronLionZion

(45,450 posts)
7. Almost every woman in active duty is reproductive age
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 08:26 AM
Jun 2022

and many of them don't want to be pregnant.

The OP doesn't say abortion specifically so there are probably focused on options for contraception and birth control.

LeftInTX

(25,364 posts)
9. Abortion is only legal in rape, incest and life threatening situations at DOD facilities.
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 02:47 PM
Jun 2022

However, in Texas abortion is now illegal for rape and incest, unless they are performed at DOD facility. The state does not have jurisdiction on military bases. However, there is fine tuning that needs to be done to keep these services available, such as educating staff etc etc etc

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
11. Hey, Biden as C.I.C. could order tomorrow all bases open to any woman seeking an abortion. So....
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:28 PM
Jun 2022

...tell me why not? And btw, if he orders same, who will stop the C.I.C.? Clarence? Mitch, Boebert?

No effin' way. Oh, and please don't quote Hyde or any other law the SC claims is in effect. They are a rogue passel of black robed R's (well, too many that is) that we can ignore as an illegitimate branch of government. If we ignore them, we win.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
12. No. He couldn't
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 05:01 PM
Jun 2022
"Oh, and please don't quote any law"

You've confused which candidate won in 2020. That sounds far too much like the former guy.

Biden is sworn to uphold and execute the laws, not ignore them.

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