Siberian Enlistment Officer Shot as Recruitment Offices Torched Across Russia

[BeyondGeography]

Source: The Moscow Times

A Siberian enlistment officer has been shot and seriously wounded during Russia’s military call-up, regional authorities said Monday as discontent over President Vladimir Putin’s draft continues to spread into far-flung regions. Gruesome footage from an Irkutsk region military recruitment office showed a man in fatigues shooting another man point-blank and sending others scattering from the assembly hall.

The shooting marks one of the most dramatic instances of outrage over Putin’s draft of around 300,000 reservists for battle in Ukraine. Igor Kobzev, the governor of the Irkutsk region 5,000 kilometers east of Moscow, said chief enlistment officer Alexander Yeliseyev was critically wounded and is now fighting for his life as a result of the shooting.

The shooter, whom Kobzev has not identified, was detained at the recruitment office in the Irkutsk town of Ust-Ilim. Local media outlets with close links to the security services identified the shooter as local resident Ruslan Zinin, 25. Zinin’s mother, Marina Zinina, told the Astra independent news website that Zinin was “very upset” because his friend without military experience had allegedly received draft papers despite the authorities’ pledge to recruit strictly experienced reservists.

Read more: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/26/siberian-enlistment-officer-shot-as-recruitment-offices-torched-across-russia-a78886

[bucolic_frolic]

1. What if they had a war and nobody showed up?

[McKim]

9. Exactly!!!!!

Exactly!!!! The torching of recruitment centers all over Russia is a bold move for Peace. People are recognizing that War is a medieval idea that is not acceptable in the 21st Century. We did the same during the Vietnam War era!

[Igel]

25. It's more likely a bold move for "I don't want to be oppressed and killed."

Going beyond that requires a bit more information.

[PatrickforB]

11. Wonderful sentiment.

What if any government in the world decided to have a nice little war and nobody showed up?

Wouldn't that be nice?

When, I wonder, will we as a species be wise enough to ban war?

[GB_RN]

23. Tribalism And Fear Of "The Other"...

Runs deep in our species. We’ve been warring amongst ourselves for our entire existence, for stupid-assed reasons like religion, skin color, “they were on our land before we got here”, “he looked at me funny”, “they talk funny”, etc. (some snark in the last two)

Many of us, I think, just follow along and get swept into the groupthink, unable to escape, due to poor education, lack of critical thinking skills, lack of empathy, etc., or a combination of any/all three. Just look at the GOPQ/MAGAts, for an example here in this country.

[captain queeg]

2. Sounds like his tight control oof messaging's slipping.

I’m sort of like Will
Rogers; all I know is what I read I’m the papers. Of course the sources have changed but it’s the same idea, I don’t have first hand knowledge. But sure sounds like is losing the domestic he’s held onto during his war.

[Ponietz]

3. More from Siberia--Abramovich's steel plant

Last edited Mon Sep 26, 2022, 09:15 AM - Edit history (1)

Link to tweet

[niyad]

6. ohhh myyyyy

[Ponietz]

8. This too

Link to tweet

[AllyCat]

10. The claim on this one is everything from a typical procedure

“Nothing to see here” to a “power surge”.

I like to think sabotage.

[Ponietz]

12. Newsweek picked it up

A huge fire broke out at a Russian steel plant owned by Roman Abramovich, an ally of President Vladimir Putin, videos circulating on social media showed.

Over the weekend, in the city of Novokuznetsk in Russia's Kemerovo region, flames engulfed the Evraz ZSMK steel plant, also known as the West Siberian Iron & Steel.

Russian oligarch Abramovich is one of the major shareholders of Evraz.
https://www.newsweek.com/fire-russian-steel-plant-putin-ally-abramovich-video-1746238|

[AllyCat]

16. The thing is with that article? Photo and videos from

Last year and last month at other locations. I think it’s kinda bunk.

[Ponietz]

17. Always good to remain sceptical until confirmation

But it appears there is/was a massive massive fire Abramovich’s steel plant within the past 48 hours.

[bluedigger]

15. 11,500 people just moved to the head of the conscription lines.

This will damage Russia's war making capacity, which is good, but we'll see if it diminishes their determination to prosecute the war.

[Crowman2009]

18. Has there been any recent labor strikes at this plant?

I'm assuming the workers have not been paid in a while.

[3Hotdogs]

19. What? Workers not being paid?

I didn't know that Trump was an owner of the plant.

[3Hotdogs]

20. What? Workers not being paid?

I didn't know that Trump was an owner of the plant.

[former9thward]

24. Why would you assume workers are not being paid?

[Igel]

26. If true, ouch.

Novokuznetsk's claim to much of anything is its steel industry. That's embedded in its very name.

Had a pen pal from the town for a few years. Long enough ago that he's not subject to the pro jure mobilization (which is meaningless, like, "We are *not* going to invade!&quot .

[Lonestarblue]

4. Perhaps this will finally force the oligarchs or the FSB to do something about Putin.

They know he is not winning in Ukraine, just as they know that launching any nuclear weapon will lead to Russia’s destruction as well. Better to get rid of their delusional ruler before he gives such an order.

[The Jungle 1]

5. This is good to see.

The Russian people are not going to go quietly into the night.
The execution of this war is in the hands of the Russian people. They will decide the fate of puketins dictatorship.
Start the fire.

"We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No, we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it" Billy Joel

[Farmer-Rick]

7. When Putin started this war

How many of the Russian people was he planning on killing in order to win?

You have to wonder in the back of your mind how much he must hate the Russian people? He turned their economy into a gangster economy where the state plays favoritism, and monopolies take all the wealth. The mass of people on low wages pay most of the taxes.

To make matters worse, Russia just got over a huge COVID surge in Aug. And now he wants their sons and fathers to die in a useless war. I feel sorry for Russian citizens.The younger ones never voted for Putin. This is how it goes when you have dictators, kings and Tsars.

May the coming Russian revolution be less destructive than Putin has been.

[Igel]

27. The people serve a Great Cause.

If the deaths achieve the Cause, then the deaths are worth it.

Ideologues, that's what they're like: Whatever the cost, as long as the Cause is won!

[Farmer-Rick]

28. Yeah,

So sad to think these despots have no end in sight for their destruction as long as their cause has not been won yet. If they lived forever, they would go on forever.

[Ponietz]

13. More video from yesterday's cocktail hour

Link to tweet

[BeyondGeography]

14. A man with a plan

Thanks for posting.

[fanfanois]

21. But Trump said Putin was a genius

That didn’t age well.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

22. Russian military recruiter shot amid fear of Ukraine call-up Other coverage by AP

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-united-states-nuclear-weapons-4da81981f2b8b198ea374c703e3f988d?fbclid=IwAR1UUe6Id149Q4VubQT9Pb03Zf-eQ47IiJwlBkskGv1Tiia7PfTTqaJEyRM

A young man shot a Russian military officer at close range at an enlistment office Monday, in an unusually bold attack reflecting resistance to the Russian leadership’s efforts to mobilize hundreds of thousands of men to wage war on Ukraine.

The shooting comes after scattered arson attacks on enlistment offices and protests in Russian cities against the call-up that have resulted in at least 2,000 arrests. Russia is seeking to bolster its military as its Ukraine offensive has bogged down and sapped its forces.

In the attack in the Siberian city of Ust-Ilimsk, 25-year-old local resident Ruslan Zinin walked into the enlistment office saying “no one will go to fight” and “we will all go home now,” according to local media reports.

Zinin was arrested and officials vowed tough punishment. Local authorities said the military commandant was in intensive care, without elaborating. A witness quoted by local news site said Zinin was in a room of people called up to fight. Troops from his region were scheduled to head to military bases Tuesday. /snip

[Brainfodder]

29. 65K troops dead, they had families, the horror of the normal Russian people, Putin must be hated.

I can't see word not spreading about the troops and murders, and yadda yadda.

Curious what the Russian underground communications is like.

War criminal Putin looking not great on multiple levels, this is evil 2022 edition, and I won't be surprised to hear news of his death by the end of the year.

[onetexan]

30. What? The russians are conscripting women as well?