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Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 09:15 AM Oct 2022

Insurance company Kemper lays off 339 workers, including 39 Alabama employees, citing inflation

Source: Advance Local

Insurance company Kemper Corporation confirmed Thursday it has laid off 339 employees, including 39 in Alabama, citing “the longer-term economic impacts of the pandemic—primarily significant prolonged inflation.”

“Like most insurance carriers, particularly those who write personal lines, the longer-term economic impacts of the pandemic—primarily significant prolonged inflation—have required us to make changes to our businesses which have led to a lower volume of policies in-force,” Chicago-based Kemper said in a statement to AL.com. “That reduced volume means we have to respond accordingly, including making some tough but necessary decisions to adjust our employee count.”

“Nationwide, we laid off just over 3 percent, or 339 employees, including 39 employees in Alabama,” the statement went on to say.

Read more: https://www.al.com/business/2022/10/insurance-company-kemper-lays-off-339-workers-including-39-alabama-employees-citing-inflation.html

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Insurance company Kemper lays off 339 workers, including 39 Alabama employees, citing inflation (Original Post) Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2022 OP
Or just maybe laying off employees right before the election will get people to blame Joe Biden for Botany Oct 2022 #1
That was my first thought. Lonestarblue Oct 2022 #6
Yup! "Did you hear how Jim lost his job down @ Kemper because of Joe Biden's inflation?" Botany Oct 2022 #7
Insuring America melm00se Oct 2022 #10
Alabama is not very competitive IronLionZion Oct 2022 #16
I wonder how much of their business decline has come about by people like me Chainfire Oct 2022 #2
or give raises to its ceos im glad i am retired :) AllaN01Bear Oct 2022 #3
What did you say to the insurance company? XanaDUer2 Oct 2022 #8
I simply told the agent that I had been dealing with for 20 years, where he could put his proposal. Chainfire Oct 2022 #9
WHERE did they reduce their policy exposure? Captain Zero Oct 2022 #4
Hurricanes ... you nailed it /nt bucolic_frolic Oct 2022 #11
worked in and around telecom for years...this is about the time ATT would always do their big rif dembotoz Oct 2022 #5
It's also enough distance from Christmas to avoid a "Scrooge" charge Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2022 #14
Looking at Kemper's financials melm00se Oct 2022 #12
RIFs and Layoffs are what corporations do when they can't turn a profit. They can't blame President iluvtennis Oct 2022 #13
They owed too much in Florida, so they're pretending the layoff are due to inflation. n/t pnwmom Oct 2022 #15
And the executives Quanto Magnus Oct 2022 #17
How about the people at the top cutting their salaries by at least 10% before any layoffs MacKasey Oct 2022 #18

Botany

(70,501 posts)
1. Or just maybe laying off employees right before the election will get people to blame Joe Biden for
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 09:26 AM
Oct 2022

inflation and then they vote GOP.

I might be wrong too. I wonder how much the CEO of Kemper makes?

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
6. That was my first thought.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:04 AM
Oct 2022

The CEO of Kemper is Joseph P Jr., who has a salary of nearly $9 million as President, Chief Executive Officer, and Director at Kemper. His political donations have been to the Insuring America PAC, which I assume supports Republicans. Their site requires an email to view, so I refused.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
7. Yup! "Did you hear how Jim lost his job down @ Kemper because of Joe Biden's inflation?"
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:22 AM
Oct 2022

Joseph P Jr. could scrimp by @ 5 million per year and keep all those people's jobs too.

The very wealthy understand that by making "the little people" hurt and controlling the
media they can keep the republicans (aka their partners) in power.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
2. I wonder how much of their business decline has come about by people like me
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 09:28 AM
Oct 2022

who told insurance companies that "I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it any more" and told the insurance companies to go pound sand. Insurance companies in hurricane zones ride the customers hard and put them up wet, and most of the customers have to take it and ask, "Sir, can I please have more abuse?"

What the insurance company is doing is reducing the workforce to increase profits. The surviving employees will just have to take up the extra work or face a pink slip. Employees are disposable.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
9. I simply told the agent that I had been dealing with for 20 years, where he could put his proposal.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:41 AM
Oct 2022

He smugly told me that I couldn't just "drop" my insurance. I dug into savings, paid off my mortgage and let the policy lapse. If my home is blown away or burns, I have a workable plan of where I will spend my last few years.

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
4. WHERE did they reduce their policy exposure?
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 09:53 AM
Oct 2022

He states they have reduced the number of policies they carry and makes sure they state they laid off 39 in Alabama and then seems to say oh it's the inflation. So they must have reduced the number of policies in Alabama. I wonder if they laid of more in other states ? And that would indicate where they are refusing or cancelling policies. Well I certainly don't believe hurricanes due to global warming could be the long-term trend or cause here. No not for a minute.

dembotoz

(16,802 posts)
5. worked in and around telecom for years...this is about the time ATT would always do their big rif
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 09:54 AM
Oct 2022

and as i look around the telecom news currently there are multiple layoffs.

if you could make it thru the witching hour you would be safe for another year.

Understand it has to do with union rules...ability to bump folks with less seniority, Folks using up sick time and vaca time,
Not having to pay holiday time off or bonus....

It was also true that there was a lot of shuffling going on with folks with new job assignments who hadn't a clue what the hell they were doing.
If you were going to have a legendary install disaster it would probably be from now til the end of the year. and I would not even mention billing

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
14. It's also enough distance from Christmas to avoid a "Scrooge" charge
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 01:15 PM
Oct 2022

They'll argue with holiday hiring, these folks will be fine.

Social media posts said there was no warning/notice of the RIFs. Those RIFed could apply for other open jobs in the company, which translates to me as "accept a relocation and/or a demotion."

melm00se

(4,991 posts)
12. Looking at Kemper's financials
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:14 AM
Oct 2022

they have not turned a profit in the last 4 rolling quarters

Net income in quarter ending 9/30/2021 - ($75,300,000)
Net income in quarter ending 12/31/2021 - ($105,800,000)
Net income in quarter ending 3/31/2022 - ($94,800,000)
Net income in quarter ending 6/30/2022 - ($74,700,000)

Also, it is expected that they will report a loss for Q3 which will be announced on November 2 after the market closes. The expectation is they will show a loss of $0.43/share which would put the Q3 loss at $25,000,000 or so.


iluvtennis

(19,852 posts)
13. RIFs and Layoffs are what corporations do when they can't turn a profit. They can't blame President
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:32 AM
Oct 2022

Biden for that.

Quanto Magnus

(895 posts)
17. And the executives
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 01:37 PM
Oct 2022

will get huuuuge bonuses for 'innovative thinking' and 'taking bold action' or some such nonsense...


MacKasey

(986 posts)
18. How about the people at the top cutting their salaries by at least 10% before any layoffs
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 02:58 PM
Oct 2022

The people in charge should be reducing their salaries first before raising prices or layoffs.

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