Poland: Russian-made missile fell on our country, killing 2

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Source: AP

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Poland said early Wednesday that a Russian-made missile fell in the eastern part of the country, killing two people in a blast that marked the first time in the war with Ukraine that Russian weapons came down on a NATO country. Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelenskyy decried the strike as “a very significant escalation” of the war.

The Polish government said in a statement that Foreign Minister Zbigniew Rau summoned the Russian ambassador and “demanded immediate detailed explanations.” Polish government spokesman Piotr Mueller said some military units were put on alert while officials sought details. Polish media reported that the strike took place in an area where grain was drying in Przewodów, a village near the border with Ukraine. The Russian Defense Ministry denied being behind “any strikes on targets near the Ukrainian-Polish border” and said in a statement that photos of purported damage “have nothing to do” with Russian weapons.

On Tuesday, Russia pounded Ukraine’s energy facilities with its biggest barrage of missiles yet, striking targets across the country and causing widespread blackouts. The barrage also affected neighboring Moldova. It reported massive power outages after the strikes knocked out a key power line that supplies the small nation, an official said. The missile strikes plunged much of Ukraine into darkness and drew defiance from Zelenskyy, who shook his fist and declared: “We will survive everything.”

In his nightly address, the Ukrainian leader said the reported strikes in Poland offered proof that “terror is not limited by our state borders.” “We need to put the terrorist in its place. The longer Russia feels impunity, the more threats there will be for everyone within the reach of Russian missiles,” Zelenskyy said. Russia fired at least 85 missiles, most of them aimed at the country’s power facilities, and blacked out many cities, he said.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52

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Previous articles and/or headlines -

AP source: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) -- Russia pounded Ukraine's energy facilities Tuesday with its biggest barrage of missiles yet, striking targets across the country and causing widespread blackouts. A senior U.S. intelligence official said missiles crossed into NATO member Poland, where two people were killed. A second person confirmed to The Associated Press that apparent Russian missiles struck a site in Poland about 15 miles from the Ukrainian border.

The Russian Defense Ministry denied being behind "any strikes on targets near the Ukrainian-Polish border" and said in a statement that photos of purported damage "have nothing to do" with Russian weapons. A NATO official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the alliance was looking into reports of a strike in Poland. The U.S. National Security Council said it was also looking into the reports.

Polish government spokesman Piotr Mueller did not immediately confirm the information from the U.S. intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the situation. But Mueller said top leaders were holding an emergency meeting due to a "crisis situation." Polish media reported that two people died Tuesday afternoon after a projectile struck an area where grain was drying in Przewodw, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine.

Neighboring Moldova was also affected. It reported massive power outages after the strikes knocked out a key power line that supplies the small nation, an official said. The missile strikes plunged much of Ukraine into darkness and drew defiance from President Volodymr Zelenskyy, who shook his fist and declared: "We will survive everything." Zelenskyy said Russia fired at least 85 missiles, most of them aimed at the country's power facilities, and blacked out many cities.

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) -- Russia pounded Ukraine's energy facilities Tuesday with its biggest barrage of missiles yet, striking targets across the country and causing widespread blackouts. A senior U.S. intelligence official said missiles crossed into NATO member Poland, where two people were killed.

A second person confirmed to The Associate Press that apparent Russian missiles struck a site in Poland about 15 miles from the Ukrainian border. Adrienne Watson, a spokesperson for the National Security Council, said on Twitter that the agency had seen reports out of Poland and was working with the Polish government to gather more information.

The strikes plunged much of Ukraine into darkness and drew defiance from President Volodymr Zelenskyy, who shook his fist and declared: "We will survive everything." Polish government spokesman Piotr Mueller did not immediately confirm the information but said top leaders were holding an emergency meeting due to a "crisis situation."

Polish media reported that two people died Tuesday afternoon after a projectile struck an area where grain was drying in Przewodw, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine. Neighboring Moldova was also affected. It reported massive power outages after the strikes knocked out a key power line that supplies the small nation, an official said. Zelenskyy said Russia fired at least 85 missiles, most of them aimed at the country's power facilities, and blacked out many cities.

Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) -- A Russian missile barrage on the Ukrainian power grid sent the war spilling over into neighboring countries Tuesday, hitting NATO member Poland and cutting electricity to much of Moldova. The strikes plunged much of Ukraine into darkness and drew defiance from President Volodymr Zelenskyy, who shook his fist and declared: "We will survive everything."

It was Russia's biggest barrage yet, and some of the missiles crossed into Poland, where two people were killed, according to a U.S. official. It marked the first time in the war that Russian weapons have come down on a NATO country. Polish government spokesman Piotr Mueller did not immediately confirm the information from a senior U.S. intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the situation.

A second person confirmed that apparent Russian missiles struck a site in Poland about 15 miles from the Ukrainian border. But Mueller said top leaders were holding an emergency meeting due to a "crisis situation." Polish media reported that two people died Tuesday afternoon after a projectile struck an area where grain was drying in Przewodw, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine.

Neighboring Moldova was also affected. It reported massive power outages after the strikes knocked out a key power line that supplies the small nation, an official said. Zelenskyy said Russia fired at least 85 missiles, most of them aimed at the country's power facilities, and blacked out many cities.

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) -- A Russian missile barrage on the Ukrainian power grid sent the war spilling over into neighboring countries Tuesday, hitting NATO member Poland and cutting electricity to much of Moldova. It was Russia's biggest barrage yet, and some of the missiles crossed into Poland, where two people were killed, according to a U.S. official. It marked the first time in the war that Russian weapons have come down on a NATO country.

Polish government spokesman Piotr Mueller did not immediately confirm the information from a senior U.S. intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the situation. But Mueller said top leaders were holding an emergency meeting due to a "crisis situation."

Polish media reported that two people died Tuesday afternoon after a projectile struck an area where grain was drying in Przewodw, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine.

Neighboring Moldova was also affected. It reported massive power outages after the strikes knocked out a key power line that supplies the small nation, an official said. Zelenskyy said Russia fired at least 85 missiles, most of them aimed at the country's power facilities, and blacked out many cities.

Strikes put Ukraine in darkness; missiles cross into Poland

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) -- Russia pounded Ukraine's energy facilities Tuesday with its biggest barrage of missiles yet, striking targets across the country and causing widespread blackouts, and a U.S. official said missiles crossed into NATO member Poland, where two people were killed. A defiant Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelenskyy shook his fist and declared: "We will survive everything."

Polish government spokesman Piotr Mueller did not immediately confirm the information from a senior U.S. intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the situation. But Mueller said top leaders were holding an emergency meeting due to a "crisis situation."

Polish media reported that two people died Tuesday afternoon after a projectile struck an area where grain was drying in Przewodw, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine. Neighboring Moldova was also affected. It reported massive power outages after the strikes knocked out a key power line that supplies the small nation, an official said.

Zelenskyy said Russia fired at least 85 missiles, "most of them at our energy infrastructure," and shut down power in many cities. "We're working, will restore everything. We will survive everything," the president vowed. His energy minister said the attack was "the most massive" bombardment of power facilities in the nearly 9-month-old Russian invasion, striking both power generation and transmission systems.

Original article/headline -

US official: Russian missiles crossed into Poland, killing 2

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) -- A senior U.S. intelligence official says Russian missiles crossed into NATO member Poland, killing two people.

Polish government spokesman Piotr Mueller did not immediately confirm the information, but said top leaders were holding an emergency meeting due to a "crisis situation."

Polish media reported that two people died Tuesday afternoon after a projectile struck an area where grain was drying in Przewodw, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE.

[ck4829]

1. If there is no harsh response, the Kremlin will learn it can murder people anywhere with impunity

No more.

[onecaliberal]

2. Shit is about to get real now...

[pbmus]

3. UNCONFIRMED,

[2live is 2fly]

29. "You dont need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows" to

quote the old Bob Dylan classic ("Subterranean Homesick Blues&quot When the wind blows strong enough (from which-ever direction) confirmation often is not needed. just sayin

[wnylib]

52. NPR 4 pm News just said that it is confirmed

that missiles struck inside Poland and killed at least two people. They also said that US and NATO security officials are investigating to verify whether they were "direct" missiles and whether Russia fired them. They area also considering response options pending their investigation.

Looks like Putin either wants an escalation or thinks that NATO will do nothing. The purpose of the strike was apparently to destroy power in the region of Ukraine that borders Poland.

My take: He is losing the war so he is determined to destroy all Ukrainian power and infrastructure on his way out.

[SergeStorms]

64. He'll starve and freeze to death...

as many Ukrainian people as he can. He'll go down in history as a war criminal.

I wish to Dog he'd just die already, although I want his death to be as excruciatingly painful as possible.

[wnylib]

66. Capture him and turn him over to Ukrainian grandmothers is my wish.

[Igel]

87. There are several claims.

1. Russian-made.

2. Fired by Russia.

3. Aimed (or were badly designed) so that they performed unimpeded.

Countered by ...

1. Ukraine uses Russian-made missiles, some of which are anti-aircraft and could be used to knock down missiles.

2. They were knocked off course, damaged by Ukr weapons designed to deflect and known down cruise missiles, so is Russia really responsible for where they landed?

I discount with a fair amount of confidence that they weren't fired by Ukr in order to frame Russia.

Assume that they were Russian-made. Were they intended to kill Russian-fired missiles? Did Ukr-fired missiles go off course? Did they cause Russian-fired missiles that would have struck Lviv or some other Ukr target to veer off course and impact in Poland?

So the "confirmation" so far is inconclusive. I personally assume that they were Russian-fired but just shoddily designed or mis-programmed. There's a chance that they were intended as a message--maybe by somebody lower down than Shoigu, maybe by somebody lower than Surovikin (that's unlikely, but you never know). Russian denial is meaningless--what they say has little relevance to the truth, except when the truth actually is in their favor (then you can't tell if it's accidentally true or not, so it's a distinction without much of a difference).

Radar and other tracking, if it exists, might be able to backtrack those particular bits of airborne armament. We can wait before jumping to a conclusion that we'll wind up pretending was never made, however forcefully it was never, in hindsight, made.

[wnylib]

90. The only confirmation that I mentioned

in my post, per NPR, was that a missile had landed in Poland and killed 2 people. NPR did not make any assumptions or claims that they were fired by Russia or from Russia. As I said in my post, the news report said that NATO security forces are investigating the to learn who fired it from where.

My guess would be Russia or Belarus. But we won't know until the investigation is finished.

Never even crossed my mind that Ukraine would set it up as a false flag operation. Not their style.

[DippyDem]

4. Lots of photos on twitter already! n/t

[ck4829]

5. And a wikipedia page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_missile_strike_on_Poland

[Tetrachloride]

6. Currently, sun is down in Europe.

according to the link:

By striking targets in the late afternoon, not long before dusk began to fall, the Russian military forced rescue workers to labor in the dark and gave repair crews scant time to assess the damage by daylight.

[SheltieLover]

7. Article 5?

[Gore1FL]

45. Probably not yet.

I imagine there may be consequences for the "oops" but I doubt it will escalate to Article 5 this time around.

[wnylib]

53. NPR says that Article 5 does not require

a military response. It says that NATO will give aid up to and including military. That leaves more than one option.

[paleotn]

57. Lets hope not yet....

I haven't finished my fallout shelter. Give me another weekend, guys. Please!

[OnlinePoker]

8. Need to stock up on my two million sunblock

I live 3 blocks from a naval base.

[liberalla]

9. Damn. This could be bad...

[Bev54]

37. There will be a lot of tap dancing around, nobody wants NATO fight with Russia

[sarisataka]

40. Have you been reading DU?

More than a few want NATO to fight Russia

[Bev54]

43. DU is not diplomats

[sarisataka]

47. Something which I am very thankful for

But consider DU is normally very anti-war.

How many less people who are normally less pacifist going to look at this as an opportunity to have that war with Russia? Many of them may also be end-of-timers and nuclear configuration is a very effective end of times.

[liberalla]

48. This is what I hope... Probably a mistake, but damn! This is a HUGE mistake!

[wnylib]

54. Not a mistake. More like a calculated risk.

Russia wanted to destroy the Ukrainian power and infrastructure in that region. Apparently they calculated that NATO would not escalate over this.

[joshcryer]

10. Looks like Ukraine will now acquire SM-3 Block IIA.

[LiberalArkie]

11. CNN says it has no idea of whose missiles they were - however

At least two dead after Russian missiles land in NATO state Poland on Ukraine border

NATO is on alert

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1697080/russia-poland-missle-dead-NATO-state-Ukraine-war-pictures-world-war-3

DRUDGE says "RUSSIAN MISSILES HIT POLAND"

[DallasNE]

77. Confirmed Russian S-300 Missile

These are surface to air missiles that Russia is using widely in Ukraine because they fly above what Ukrainian air defences can currently hit. This may well force NATO TO deploy anti missile systems to shoot them down. Those same missiles could be used for offensive purposes as well and possibly hit targets as far away as Moscow so there is a reason they have not been giver to Ukraine.

[DFW]

12. Obviously, this was not intentional on the Russians' part

If it were, they would not target a rural grain drying operation. Nonetheless, we can maneuver this into being a gift from on high.

The west can use the incident as an excuse ("escalating? Who? Us? WE'RE not escalating anything. We didn't shoot any deadly missiles into Russia, did we?" ) for a far more massive help package for the Ukrainians now. NATO can even say, "you attacked NATO territory, and you know what THAT means, but we will be very gracious and not attack you back--this time. However, we need to help our Ukrainian friends with what measures that can be put in place to make sure it doesn't happen again. Nothing threatening like atomic weapons, of course. Just a few hundred billion worth of state-of-the-art conventional weaponry, nothing over the top, you understand."

[herding cats]

15. This is a likely scenario.

We shall see, but this is what I expect.

[yardwork]

51. Possibly deliberate by somebody in Russia who wants the war to end?

[wnylib]

56. That's my take on it.

This might be a reason to give air support to Ukraine or at least to Poland.

[DFW]

63. The Russians are probably demoting whoever sent the missiles

He will spend the rest of his career cleaning toilets on a base north of Murmansk.

Whenever the Russians scream and howl, we can now say, "but you guys bombed Poland! The last guy who did that was Hitler!"
That should cut their whining short real quick.

[wnylib]

79. What are Germans saying about this?

[DFW]

91. So far, they are saying that some idiot Russian miscalculated

Pretty much in line with their lack of military efficiency so far. But that the clumsiness doesn’t excuse that the Russians’ overeagerness to cause mayhem in all parts of the Ukraine just killed two Polish citizens on Polish territory. NATO is still NATO, and there should be consequences.

But the Germans are still European bureaucrats, so they will still need twenty years to come to a consensus as to what those consequences should be. Biden and Blinken will need to give NATO some sage guidance here.

[wnylib]

92. Thanks for the report.

[crickets]

61. This sounds most likely, and frankly more than reasonable.

Grind the egg into Russia's face a bit, and up the military aid without excuse or apology.

[True Dough]

13. I think cooler heads prevail

Remember when Turkey shot down a Russian jet fighter in 2015? (Link below as a refresher.) Nothing came of that. As long as Russia doesn't repeat an attack on Poland, it will likely be treated as a misguided launch.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34912581

[ck4829]

14. "Cooler heads" are no longer in Moscow unfortunately

For cooler heads to prevail, we have to get rid of the hot heads.

[ck4829]

26. And therefore more qualified than Putin

[yaesu]

16. If this is actually a russian strike NATO could respond by taking out the offending unit, base or

ship that launched this attack or NATO can send a strongly worded letter.

[mitch96]

38. "NATO can send a strongly worded letter." or clutch it's beads and be concerned...nt

[brooklynite]

17. I'm guessing the crappy Russian munitions went off course...

...no rational reason the Russian military would rile up NATO at this point.

[rubbersole]

20. Maybe they were North Korean...

[Martin68]

18. Since NATO and the US have exercised extreme caution in preventing donated weapons being used across

the Russian border, this violation of both Polish and Moldovan territory should be followed by an ultimatum that if it happens again, restrictions on Ukraine will be lifted. In fact, this would appear to be an attack on a NATO member, which could be use as a valid reason to start defending Ukraine with air cover. I wonder if this was intentional, or the result of Russia running out of smart missiles and resorting to unguided missiles of doubtful reliability and accuracy.

[FredGarvin]

23. Intentional

Targeted strike with Russian garbage "smart" missiles.

[Model35mech]

27. Yes, but Belograd, Russia has been shelled repeatedly according to

liveuamap.com which provides interactive maps of the fighting that update multiple times a day as needed to show significant actions.

https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/15-november-at-sivershchyna-direction-russian-army-shelled has a blast icon on the border of Poland and Ukraine showing for these missile detonations

[The Unmitigated Gall]

19. Rusdia...down to the SCUDs.

[FredGarvin]

21. US shipment of HIMARS targeted? ATACMS?

This is bad news for Russia...as they missed again.
Payback is gonna be a bitch

[sarisataka]

22. Some folks are already beating the war drums

And are ready to send other peoples kids off to fight

[cstanleytech]

25. Sounds like Putin does want a war with NATO.

[NQAS]

28. Is there a "whoopsies" caveat in the NATO treaty

Of course, this might have been deliberate to test NATO’s response.

I know what Biden said about WWIII. But I think there needs to be a serious response. And I’m grateful I’m not the one to propose what that response should be.

My suggestion would be a NATO strike(s) on Russian artillery units in Ukraine. No civilians. No attack in Russia. By NATO forces.

[BidenRocks]

30. Time to obliterate a Russian town!

Then we can go. Oops!
NEVER APPEASE A DICTATOR!
History 101

[sarisataka]

41. What size town would you like to see obliterated?

Population under 100? 100-1,000? 1,000-10,000? Bigger?

[BidenRocks]

59. Small

With minimal loss of life.
Sux to have to do that.

[wnylib]

65. Sucks worse that some people think

that we HAVE TO do that.

[BidenRocks]

68. Thank you

Neville Chamberlain!
Study much history?

[sarisataka]

74. Study more history

Go back to the start of WW1, the end of which made WW2 inevitable.

Could a more considered response prevented the Great War?

[wnylib]

83. What's that got to do with the idea of

obliterating a village of Russian civilians?

Besides being uncalled for at this point (see my #80), it would escalate things to dangerous levels for the rest of Europe and the world, not to mention Ukraine.

I would advocate instead for providing Ukraine and Poland with the planes that they need for air cover. Russia has previously said that doing that would be crossing a line that they would not tolerate. We have said that crossing borders into a NATO nation is something that we will not tolerate. Russia has crossed that line. So now we have reason and justification to provide those planes. Yes, that runs a risk of even further escalation, but aimed at military targets.

When we hold up proof to the world of what Russia has done in Poland, and accuse Putin of being the first person to bomb Poland since Hitler, we will have not only NATO with us, but support from around the world for arming Poland, Ukraine, and other neighboring nations with planes for air cover.

[wnylib]

81. See my #80.

[wnylib]

62. Which Russian mothers and their babies do you want to obliterate?

I agree that this calls for a firm response, but when you become like your enemy, then they have won.

[BidenRocks]

69. The same as Ukrainians!

Why are Russian civillians imune from the murderous Putin?

[wnylib]

80. One thing that is really impressive about

Ukrainians is that, as bad as things are for them, as awful as Russia has been treating Ukrainian civilians, the Ukrainians have not lost their humanity. They know that that's what they are fighting to maintain in the face of Russian tyranny.

There probably are some incidents of some Ukrainian civilians and soldiers being brutal toward Russian civilians and sympathizers who are in Ukraine. That's war. But it is not official Ukrainian policy. Their focus is on the Russian military, where it needs to be in order to win.

[ancianita]

35. And Russia chose to answer the provocation. Just a sitting democracy nearby can provoke Russia.

[Bayard]

32. "Ooops--our bad?"

So, Putin has to admit his military is comprised of incompetent morons, or that he deliberately bombed a NATO country.

[ancianita]

33. Looks like there's the proof NATO needs to now enter the war. The missiles also killed two.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/zelenskyy-battle-kherson-day-watershed-93318926


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-15/zelenskyy-battle-for-kherson-was-d-day-like-watershed?leadSource=uverify%20wall

But our military's being cautious.

Reports of the missile strike first emerged in Polish media, with firefighters saying two people died in an explosion in Przewodów. Polish Radio ZET also reported that two stray missiles had hit Przewodów, while an anonymous U.S. intelligence official relayed the info to the AP.

Officials in Poland and the United States have yet to confirm the report. A Polish government spokesperson, Piotr Mueller, tweeted that Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki was holding an emergency meeting about a “crisis situation.”

Pentagon spokesperson Brig. Gen. Patrick Ryder said during a news briefing, “We are aware of the press reports alleging that two Russian missiles have struck a location inside Poland near the Ukraine border. I can tell you that we don’t have any information at this time to corroborate those reports and are looking into this further.”


https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/russian-missiles-hit-poland-nato-nation-1234631363/

[IronLionZion]

34. Russia makes a lot of very bad mistakes

if it weren't for their nukes, NATO would stomp them to the curb super quick.

this was probably an accident and not intentional. I doubt they were targeting a Polish grain plant.

[blue-wave]

36. The missles likely came from Belarus

Not good. Could have NATO troops moving into Belarus??

[orangecrush]

39. It's NATO TIME!!!

[Prairie_Seagull]

42. Needs apology, recompence or

proportional response.

[orangecrush]

46. ....

[Prairie_Seagull]

49. My gallows humor is laughing, wait, ok I stopped. n/t

[orangecrush]

55. ....

[tavernier]

44. Probably why Biden's schedule was changed.

[Smackdown2019]

50. Where does it end?

If no response, 1934 europe.

If strong response, 1941 response.

No body wants a war, except Putin.

A response should be harsh! But any response will result a war.

[orangecrush]

58. ....

[niyad]

75. Was there a specific intent or message with this particular post?

[orangecrush]

76. Yes

Poland is not to be trifled wiit..

[2live is 2fly]

60. Always possibility of accidently on-purpose. I'm sure Pukin probably figures he can get away

with 1' of these "accidents" every 10 to 18 months.

[Prairie_Seagull]

67. in which case, maybe a proportional "accident".

No matter what. Drip, drip, drip.

[niyad]

70. Taunting NATO?

[orangecrush]

72. Exactly

What they are doing.

[niyad]

71. Somebody please finish him already!

[orangecrush]

73. +1

[muriel_volestrangler]

78. Some open source analysis suggesting an S-300 missile

Another possibility may be that what struck the Polish farm was a stray Ukrainian surface-to-air missile. There have been instances elsewhere in the world where errant SAMs have hit the ground after traveling very long distances after missing their intended target. Some observers have noted potential similarities between portions of the reported wreckage recovered in Poland and missiles used in the S-300 surface-to-air missile system. The Russian and Ukrainian militaries have both employed variants of the S-300 in the current conflict, and Russia's armed forces have used them as surface-to-surface weapons. Poland would seem out of range of at least known Russian S-300 units when employed against ground targets.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/missile-hits-poland-after-crossing-ukraine-border-reports

The BBC's Mark Urban (who is pretty reliable on defence) said an open source intelligence analysis on Twitter (not sure if this is the same people as The Drive is quoting or not) that he thinks has been reliable in the past leans this way. What can be said about range from where the Russians have them (in Belarus?) remains to be seen.

[BumRushDaShow]

82. Poland has now confirmed that Russian missiles fell in their territory (OP updated)

Multiple sources confirming their confirmation.

[SheltieLover]

86. Regardless, ruskies are absolutely responsible, directly or indirectly!

[BumRushDaShow]

88. The President's job is to quell any panic

The fact that they are calling a special meeting and Poland is considering invoking Article 4, took it up a notch -

Poland considers invoking NATO Article 4 after Russian-made missile hit village, killing two people


By Tim Lister, Tara John, Antonia Mortensen, Anna Chernova and Emmet Lyons, CNN
Updated 8:23 PM EST, Tue November 15, 2022

(snip)

Invoking NATO Article 4

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization is a group of 30 North American and European nations. According to NATO, its purpose “is to guarantee the freedom and security of its members through political and military means.” The alliance was created in 1949 in response to the start of the Cold War. Its original purpose was to protect the West from the threat posed by the Soviet Union.

Since the end of the Cold War, many former Soviet nations have joined NATO, much to the annoyance of Putin. Article 4, which Poland is considering, is a consultation method that allows members to bring an issue, usually a security issue, affecting them for discussion at the North Atlantic Council, the alliance’s decision making body.

“The Parties will consult together whenever, in the opinion of any of them, the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the Parties is threatened,” the article states. The best-known aspect of the alliance is Article 5 of the treaty, which, if invoked, means “an attack against one Ally is considered as an attack against all Allies.”

It has only ever been invoked once, in response to the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States. However, the alliance can take collective defense measures without invoking Article 5 – and has done this in the light of the Russian attack on Ukraine.

(snip)

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/15/europe/poland-missile-rocket-nato-przewodow-ukraine-intl

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

84. Biden calls 'emergency' meeting after missile hits Poland

NUSA DUA, Indonesia (AP) — President Joe Biden called an “emergency” meeting of G7 and NATO leaders in Indonesia Wednesday morning for consultations after NATO-ally Poland said a “Russian-made” missile killed two people in the eastern part of its country near the Ukraine border.

Biden, who was awakened overnight by staff with the news of the missile explosion, called Polish President Andrzej Duda early Wednesday to express his “deep condolences” for the loss of life. The U.S. president promised “full U.S support for and assistance with Poland’s investigation,” and “reaffirmed the United States’ ironclad commitment to NATO.”

A statement from the Polish Foreign Ministry identified the missile as being made in Russia. But Poland's president, Duda, was more cautious about its origin, saying that officials did not know for sure who fired it or where it was made. He said it was “most probably” Russian-made, but that is being still verified. If confirmed, it would be the first time since the invasion of Ukraine that a Russian weapon came down on a NATO country.

The foundation of the NATO alliance is the principle that an attack against one member is an attack on them all.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-calls-emergency-meeting-after-missile-hits-poland/ar-AA149K7t

[Kennah]

89. Biden said it's unlikely the missile came from Russia based upon trajectory

[Jilly_in_VA]

93. Well

we do know the Russian army is woefully badly trained and can't shoot straight, so there's that. Not that I'm excusing them or anything.

[Eugene]

94. AP Fires Reporter Behind Retracted 'Russian Missiles' Story

AP Fires Reporter Behind Retracted ‘Russian Missiles’ Story (Daily Beast)

The Associated Press scared much of the world last Tuesday when it alerted readers that “a senior U.S. intelligence official” said “Russian missiles crossed into NATO member Poland, killing two people.”

That report, which was widely cited across the internet and on cable news, was taken offline the following day and replaced with an editor’s note admitting the single source was wrong and that “subsequent reporting showed that the missiles were Russian-made and most likely fired by Ukraine in defense against a Russian attack.”

On Monday, the AP fired James LaPorta, the investigative reporter responsible for that story, Confider has learned.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ap-fires-reporter-behind-retracted-russian-missiles-story