Putin fell down stairs, soiled himself as speculation over worsening health grows: report

[Kennah]

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Source: NY Post

Russian President Vladimir Putin fell down the stairs and soiled himself this week amid mounting speculation that his health is declining, an anti-Kremlin Telegram channel with apparent links to his security team reported.

Putin, 70, suffered the unfortunate fall at his Moscow official residence on Wednesday evening, according to the Telegram channel “General SVR,” which purports to be run by a former Russian spy.

The ailing Russian leader allegedly fell down five steps before landing on his coccyx, or tailbone.

Although his security guards immediately rushed to his aid, the impact of the fall caused Putin to “involuntarily defecate” due to “cancer affecting his stomach and bowels,” according to the channel.

Read more: https://nypost.com/2022/12/02/putin-fell-down-stairs-soiled-himself-amid-health-woes-report/

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Rooting for cancer

[Walleye]

1. I'm sorry but I hope he is in excruciating pain

Just remember that’s how Ivana Trump died

[Kennah]

3. Falling/pushed down stairs?

[Walleye]

12. Loose step?

[Layzeebeaver]

34. Loose stool

[Walleye]

41. Still I am wondering who would dare report that particular part of the story

[Layzeebeaver]

70. The USSR

Underwear Soiling Society of Russia

[Walleye]

92. Oh I like it

[IjustDontlikeRepugs]

24. Russia has a lot of window/stair cancer.

[pnwest]

30. LOL

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

78. I was wondering the same

Fell down a flight of stairs is often a euphemism for "he got the shit beaten out of him."

[Warpy]

50. If he broke or even bruised his coccyx, he is

but it won't improve his attitude or his conduct of his vanity war against innocent people. It will just make it worse. Anything that reminds him he's mortal like the rest of us is just going to want him to achieve glory through death and his place in future history.

Plus, I tend to discount a lot of news out of Russia unless there are pictures/videos, and even then I take it with a pound of salt.

The only positive thing about this story is that it might be a softening up technique to get Russians who have been propagandized to the nth degree to accept the news of his resignation and subsequent death, events that will likely be reversed in their "news."

[Walleye]

95. Yeah I don't really believe it either. He probably slipped down one step and sprained his ankle

[TheBlackAdder]

89. OMG! They killed Putin. Wait he may still be alive. They say the last thing you do before you die...

.

Starting at 2:05.

.

[cilla4progress]

2. Yeah. No suffering is bad enough.

Listening to Stephanie Ruhle's show last night at the end where she broke down showing Marioupol last year at Christmas ‐ fully decoated and joyful - considering how it is this year! 😥

[vlyons]

45. I don't want him to suffer.

I don't want anyone to suffer. I want him to wake up from his delusions of grandeur and grasping at self to realize that all people everywhere want to be happy and live in peace. I want him to cultivate loving kindness. I know the chances of that happening are slim and none.

May all beings be happy and have the causes and conditions for happiness.

[cilla4progress]

54. You are clearly more enlightened

than I!



Cross post

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217427542

[vlyons]

67. May all beings be liberated from suffering,

and liberated from the causes and conditions of suffering. A chief cause of suffering is hatred and wishing on others. There can be no peace in the world until we stop hating and wishing ill on others.

[Fla Dem]

81. He can be liberated from his pain by quietly dying in his sleep never to waken with pain again.

[vlyons]

105. Perhaps not

We Buddhists believe in reincarnation. That when we die, the only thing we take with us is our mind with all its habitual emotions and thought patterns, aka karma. Unless we purify the mind to be free of greed, delusions, and hatred in this life, those patterns will just manifest again and keep us wandering in samsara over and over.

"All experience is preceded by mind.
Led by mind.
Created by mind.
Speak or act with contaminated mind, and suffering follows,
Like the wheel of the wagon follows the hoof of the ox."

-- from The Dharmapada

I'm not certain if reincarnation is real or not. I prefer to keep an open mind that it might be. I know that I'm happier and have more peace of mind in this life, when I choose not to cultivate stupidity, greed, envy, arrogance, hatred, and anger.

[Lucinda]

68. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

+1

[harumph]

80. For some, suffering is the path to enlightenment.

[Miguelito Loveless]

4. Why are we quoting unreliable tabloids?

[jaxexpat]

17. Why even bother to read them?

The propaganda is everywhere around us 24/7. Whether we acknowledge it or not, we seldom if ever learn facts about actual events unless they're prefiltered. It's a process where info going in comes out modified to suit the purposes of the machine and from which right into our minds it goes.

[SergeStorms]

64. Yeah, The NY Post....

is to factual news, as Herschel Walker is to coherent sentences.

[Xolodno]

83. Look at all the other comments in this thread.

It's obviously what everyone wants to hear, even though there is probably not a shred of evidence or perhaps even truth.

But an article like this one:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/3729609-milley-provides-highest-us-estimate-yet-of-ukraine-war-casualties/

Where Milley says Russia has lost around 100k troops and then also states Ukraine has lost about the same, no one wants to hear that.

[SergeStorms]

100. Democrats hate Putin....

and hate can move mountains. 😉

It's incredible that Ukraine has lost around the same amount of soldiers as Russia. I would have thought they'd lost fewer, but at the beginning of the war, excuse me "reclamation", 🙄 Russia definitely had the upper hand in firepower. Add in 30k dead Ukraine civilians and they've paid an extreme price for Putin's bloodthirsty land grab.

Come to think of it, I guess I wish as much pain and suffering for Putin as everyone else here.

[calimary]

5. Sheesh - taking "going downhill" to a whole new level of meaning.

[GenXer47]

6. What was Putin's coccyx doing

outside of Donald Trump's throat?

[Texin]

55. Good question.

[sarisataka]

7. Fuck cancer

I have lost many people to it.

Currently, my wife's mother is battling stage 4 pancreatic and thyroid cancer. I don't find the side effects of cancer and the treatments to be funny.

Just in case I am not clear-

FUCK CANCER
no exceptions

[ExtremelyWokeMatt]

10. You're right about that...

And crohn’s and all other infuriating health stuff like that.

The only reason some of us aren’t put off is because of who it is and what he’s done to people over the course of his cruel life, nothing to do with the sad reality of cancer and other illnesses affecting good undeserving people who shouldn’t have to suffer

[Bengus81]

20. I do...when it fits the person

[twodogsbarking]

22. We have made progress but there is more needed. What you said.

[Lithos]

53. Agreed

I have no problem with Putin being defenestrated or otherwise a victim of gravity assisted landings, especially because this is one of Putin's favorite techniques to silence opponents. I do have an issue with people finding joy in him potentially having cancer.

[ExtremelyWokeMatt]

8. Oh noes

Getting an early start on the purge-atory assuming he doesn’t make it way down deep into the dark circles of hell

[Happy Hoosier]

9. I suspect he's sick. I also suspect a lot of stories like this are false.

But not much would make me happier than that fascist asshole dying in pain.

[ExtremelyWokeMatt]

16. If the source was the Kremlin...

You can safely bet it was crafted with some perception shaping intent in mind, maybe to garner sympathy and reduce chances of retaliation like Weinstein with his walker in trial court

[groundloop]

21. True. I see no way this story got out unless Putin allowed it.

[wnylib]

101. Or else some prankster is toying with

the deepest wishes of people around the world by putting out this story.

[Deep State Witch]

11. Karma's A Bitch

Something tells me that those Ukrainian witches put a curse on that MFer.

[durablend]

13. So basically a pain in the ass?

[rubbersole]

87. Or just a tall tail...

[rambler_american]

14. What?

Are there no more windows in Moscow?

[wnylib]

102. Apparently ran out of tea, also.

[2naSalit]

15. ...

Fucker can't die fast enough or painfully enough for my liking.

[dchill]

18. I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone...

... especially someone who might take his pain out on the whole world.

[James48]

19. He needs some fresh air.

Putin needs to open a few windows.

[GregariousGroundhog]

27. Maybe if we are lucky he'll also get defenestrated

[keopeli]

49. Perfect use of the rarely used word "defenstrated"

The definition of which is two-fold:
1. to throw someone out of a window
2. to remove someone from a position of power

Great vernacular choice, GregariousGroundhog!

[Kennah]

31. Maybe an oligarch has an icepick to ventilate him

[smb]

59. He Should Try A Soothing Cup Of Tea nt

[momta]

63. Perhaps we could let Navalny prepare it for him. n/t

[mwooldri]

77. I also suggest a nice cup of tea.

Brewed with the finest Soviet polonium.

[John Ludi]

23. If this is true

I feel no sympathy at all. My big worry with him, however, is the same I had with TFG while he was still in office: will he go all scorched earth if he feels that his time is up or his back is totally up against the wall...and would there be anyone to stop him?

[Scrivener7]

25. I'm guessing he'll die in 24 business days.

[Deep State Witch]

33. They'll Just Embalm Him

And put his dead body up on display like they did for Lenin.

[NotHardly]

26. I think we are being played ... he's dead or nearly so, and this is just the prep-mode before

making it official

[Kennah]

32. L Ron Putin

[wnylib]

106. If he's dead, I wish someone would confirm it

and stop holding up the celebration.

[NCjack]

28. Karma, if someone got around security and gave him some of his own special tea.

[Blue Owl]

29. Let me see if I can muster up some sympathy...

Nah, not today...

[wryter2000]

35. I hope he dies soon

I wouldn't normally say that, but he's causing so much death and suffering. Someone sane can take over and get the Hell out of Ukraine.

[kysrsoze]

36. Too bad he didn't fall out of a window.

[Pepsidog]

37. Murdoch fell a few years back and was saved by Jerry Hall. Putin and Murdoch need to stroke out.

[Kennah]

76. That's an OlyFans page we do NOT need

[Bird Lady]

38. I wish for the painful death for

Putin, Trump, and every MAGA butt wipe.
Ever since Trump announced the first time I have wished for a stroke for him.
I am not a violent person but for these people it looks like death is the only remmedy
to make the country sane.

[Grins]

39. "Putin, 70, suffered the unfortunate fall..."

Why unfortunate? That he wasn't killed?

[Kennah]

74. Winner!

[Major Nikon]

40. The unfortunate part is he didn't break his neck

[Ford_Prefect]

42. More Hype from NYPost and Murdoch. I call Bull Shit on this one.

We've seen similar reports for over a year from the same invisible and un-confirmable alleged insider sources. AND only printed by Murdoch networked outlets.

No legitimate press have carried those stories and they don't have this one either. There is a reason for that.

[ZonkerHarris]

43. Kremlin insiders sending a message? "we got this" - maybe

[Cracklin Charlie]

44. I have been seeing rumors about this.

And his use of look likes at appearances.

Hmmm…

[republianmushroom]

46. he will go down hill fast now.

[Beastly Boy]

47. NY Post? I am not impressed.

When they publish a story of Putin's unfortunate fall from an open fifth story window and soiling himself, I will start paying attention.

[StormKing]

48. Karma is a beautiful woman

Enjoy her work.

[jerseyjim]

51. I'm wondering if

a successor would have the same ambitions. I think Putin's war was a personal thing and hopefully, he would be replaced by someone a little more sane.

[pandr32]

52. 'Karma' after having others pushed, dropped, etc.

Hopefully, it repeats.

[Texin]

56. Is this a true story?

[Tommy Carcetti]

57. It's the Post, so I'll take it with a grain of salt. That being said...

...I absolutely, unironically love the image it gives.

There are very few people in this world who deserve such a fate. Putin is one of them.

[Joe Nation]

58. "unfortunately" ?

N/T

[machoneman]

60. Where oh where is James Bond when we need him? He'd take out Putin for sure.

[wnylib]

107. Or Maxwell Smart.

[LudwigPastorius]

61. It would be nice if Putin is about to punch his ticket to be Cerberus' chew toy, but...

I'll only believe it when they've stuffed his rotten corpse and put it under glass.

[Mosby]

62. We don't know if any of this is true

It's some guy on a racist discussion board "reporting" this.

[womanofthehills]

99. Did Putin fall down the stairs?

The most recent rumor, posted by the General SVR's Telegram channel, alleges after a difficult day of leadership earlier this week, Putin fell down five steps on a staircase and landed on his coccyx, or tailbone. The jarring fall caused the Russian leader to then "defecate involuntarily," according to the Telegram channel.

General SVR has repeatedly touted claims that Putin is sick, with many media outlets citing its Telegram channel as people worldwide look for proof that Putin's leadership is cracking. Previous General SVR Telegram posts have been widely reported in Europe and the United States, with organizations like the New York Post, United Kingdom's daily newspaper The Mirror and various other media organizations citing the channel's claims in articles.




https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/did-putin-fall-down-the-stairs-and-soil-himself-what-we-know/ar-AA14POhM

[TroubleMan]

65. Rectum? Wish it would've killed him!

The interesting thing is that the reported that he soiled himself. They normally wouldn't do that, because they wouldn't allow him to appear weak. In the past, if something like this had happened, they'd be like he fell down the stairs and bravely stood up immediately.

Now that they're saying he's a little baby poopy pants, it appears that the tide is turning, and he's losing control.

[live love laugh]

66. "Allegedly" ... from Propoganda Central. Hopefully it's true

and could not happen to a more deserving person but I am skeptical of any Russian newz.

[twodogsbarking]

69. Nature will take over. Rooting is only some form of self-gratification.

[flying_wahini]

71. I don't have one tiny speck of sympathy for Putin. I would push him myself if I had been there.

[IronLionZion]

72. Any windows nearby?

His enemies have been known to fall out of windows, completely by accident of course.

[Paper Roses]

73. Nothing about this on any national news ay 2PM. I wonder if this is baloney?

If it is true, I have no sympathy. If not true, I am disappointed.

[wnylib]

108. Probably not true. It is only being reported

by media like the NY Post and Daily Mail. Kind of like a report in the National Enquired.

[Wibly]

75. Despite how much I would like this to be true

I smell unsubstantiated hyperbolic cow manure.

[skypilot]

84. Ditto.

Months ago there were posts here about Putin's alleged poor health and how he might be dying. People claimed that his faced looked puffy and that this was likely a symptom of this or that. Frankly, he always looked fine to me, and the occasional picture where he did look a little puffy could just as likely be explained by some overindulgence in vodka. I'm very skeptical of stories about his ill health and imminent demise.

[Orrex]

79. Shit just got real.

[housecat]

82. I don't care how he dies as long as it is soon. asap

[Dopers_Greed]

85. Vladimir Poopin

[FirstLight]

91. DUzy!!!

can we PLEASE make this his new nickname?

[Richard D]

96. You almost owe me a new keyboard!

DUzy indeed!

[FirstLight]

86. so, who succeeds if he dies?

speculating with my roommate, whether in the case of his demise the Ukraine would be left alone.

[Kennah]

88. The Russian people will succeed

[FirstLight]

97. *thumbsup*

Yeah, I bet there would be some major stuff happening in the streets....and not the moaning and wailing he would want. More like celebration. Then they would have an "election"

But I'll have to go look up who is 'next-in-line' to hold the reins until they stage an election.



EDIT to ADD:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-08/who-could-rule-russia-after-vladimir-putin/101500644

...interesting read, it could be a real power vacuum, but many think Medvedev. He could be worse?

[Trailrider1951]

90. Too bad that there wasn't a window nearby.

[Raine]

93. I hope it's true 🤞 but have doubts. 🤔 nt

[calimary]

94. I'd rather he'd fall-down-and go-boom than our world would do so.

Maybe he’s edging closer to the no-longer-a-factor fate.

[DFW]

98. Watch for future appeaances

If he's in difficulty or in pain, it will show, and if he's drugged to the hile to disguise it. that will show, too.

For me, this remains wishful thinking until proven otherwise. It it just the thing a wily KGB propagandist, expert at spreading false information among our media, would do to test our reaction (and then make us look like idiots if none of it is true).

[Martin Eden]

103. Falling down the stairs is not enough

He needs to stand next to an open window in an upper floor of a tall building.

I'm sure there would be plenty of volunteers to assist him in that next encounter with gravity.

[SorellaLaBefana]

104. Do not find mention on Reuters, AP, PBS, NPR, CBS, ABC, BBC or Al Jazeera

[Kennah]

109. MSN reposting from Metro

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-has-fallen-down-stairs-at-official-residence/ar-AA14Ozct?li=BBnb7Kz

[frogmarch]

110. General SVR (Viktor Mikhalovich Ermolaev)

on Twitter: https://twitter.com/svr_general?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[Yonnie3]

111. Locking ...

NY Post is not a suitable source for DU Latest Breaking news.

Please post from a reputable main stream source.