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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 10:01 PM Dec 2022

ABC host corners Greg Abbott: Biden has never said the border is open but you and Trump have

Source: ABC News

ABC host Martha Raddatz asked Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) if his rhetoric was leading migrants to believe the U.S. border is open.

“You talk about the border wall, you talk about open borders, I don't think I've ever heard President Biden say, we have an open border come on over,” Raddatz said during an interview that aired on Sunday.

“But people I have heard say it are you, are former President Trump, Ron DeSantis, that message reverberates in Mexico and beyond. So they do get the message that it is an open border and smugglers use all those kinds of statements,” she added.

Abbott brushed aside the accusation and insisted that "it is known" that the U.S. borders are open.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/abc-host-corners-greg-abbott-biden-has-never-said-the-border-is-open-but-you-and-trump-have/ar-AA15qakW?cvid=5e96c4545ddf4304b8cd8e6721ab4e76



Interesting that all for all of the anti-immigrant rhetoric pushed by Republicans, only folks Republicans like Trump, Abbott and DeSantis have been pushing rhetoric that U.S. borders are open.
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ABC host corners Greg Abbott: Biden has never said the border is open but you and Trump have (Original Post) TomCADem Dec 2022 OP
I wouldn't be surprised if they sent people south to spread the word and sign people up to go Walleye Dec 2022 #1
Yeah, these heartless monsters PatSeg Dec 2022 #7
They really have lost touch with their humanity altogether Walleye Dec 2022 #8
Maybe it is the addiction to power PatSeg Dec 2022 #10
They are addicted to power for sure, also anger and hatred especially hatred Walleye Dec 2022 #11
I can't imagine being like that PatSeg Dec 2022 #19
I feel the same way. It must be horrible to live that way hating and not trusting anybody. Miserable Walleye Dec 2022 #20
Maybe they never had any to begin with. calimary Dec 2022 #24
+1 n/t area51 Dec 2022 #27
There were articles in the Mexican press markodochartaigh Dec 2022 #15
very loud RW stations and fox have repeatedly told people south of border for 30 yrs that certainot Dec 2022 #29
An excellent and too little used observation Uncle Joe Dec 2022 #2
Finally! I and others have been saying this for a while! LymphocyteLover Dec 2022 #3
Like "the election was stolen (and/or) rigged" ?? BOSSHOG Dec 2022 #6
and that is exactly why they keep saying it- to keep the turmoil alive Fullduplexxx Dec 2022 #4
Also - cheap labor drmeow Dec 2022 #5
Could fruit and vegetable farms, the meat packing industry, landscaping, oil and gas doc03 Dec 2022 #9
Not for a second! drmeow Dec 2022 #13
Nice to see a journalist actually go after Abbott. hamsterjill Dec 2022 #12
It's never too late to stand up for the truth, markodochartaigh Dec 2022 #14
THANK YOU!!! calimary Dec 2022 #17
Totally agree!!! hamsterjill Dec 2022 #33
It's like they gave out an invitation but then claim it was someone elses party. Historic NY Dec 2022 #16
Republicans: why are you letting all these immigrants in? keithbvadu2 Dec 2022 #18
She should have asked him what happened to President Fatfuck's wall? LudwigPastorius Dec 2022 #21
Raddatz just rose in my estimation. summer_in_TX Dec 2022 #22
Abbott is a colossal piece of shit. Initech Dec 2022 #23
Hoping that more reporters will ask DeS and Abbott about it every time they say that. flying_wahini Dec 2022 #25
This point needs to be made repeatedly pandr32 Dec 2022 #26
Yeah, they pretty much want them to come here. KPN Dec 2022 #28
And the problem is the Magat dopes believe what they're told without question. ificandream Dec 2022 #30
Journalists need to ask LittleGirl Dec 2022 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #32
Open borders are "common knowledge" don't you know, you liberal media fake AZLD4Candidate Dec 2022 #34
If Abbott had never opened his mouth there would probably be a few hundred a day max claiming asylum MichMan Dec 2022 #35

PatSeg

(47,520 posts)
7. Yeah, these heartless monsters
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 10:30 PM
Dec 2022

will do anything for political power. They don't care what the consequences are as long as they "win".

PatSeg

(47,520 posts)
10. Maybe it is the addiction to power
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 10:41 PM
Dec 2022

Like any drug, it clouds one's perspective and dehumanizes people. We see it so often in politicians.

PatSeg

(47,520 posts)
19. I can't imagine being like that
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 11:41 PM
Dec 2022

If they didn't cause so much damage, I'd almost feel sorry for them.

Walleye

(31,030 posts)
20. I feel the same way. It must be horrible to live that way hating and not trusting anybody. Miserable
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 11:52 PM
Dec 2022

Richard Nixon in his farewell speech to the staff “remember others may hate you, but they don’t win until you hate them, because then you destroy yourself.” Good lesson learned too late by that man

markodochartaigh

(1,138 posts)
15. There were articles in the Mexican press
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 11:26 PM
Dec 2022

before the election that said that Bolsonaro was sending Brazilians, and Haitians who had fled to Brazil, to the US-Mexico border ahead of the US election to bolster Republican chances. I can't find an English press article right now except this one.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazilians-flock-us-border-an-alleged-smuggler-cashes-2021-10-12

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
29. very loud RW stations and fox have repeatedly told people south of border for 30 yrs that
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 03:40 PM
Dec 2022

dem admins open the borders. republicans believe it too. fox reaches further. they've also been telling everyone that dems help them get drivers licenses and help them vote illegally.

then they scream about border invasions and use it to scare republicans, sell 'the wall' and stop dems trying to reform immigration.

republican media, led by RW radio, has been lying about and attacking immigrants for a long time. before the 2019 congolese outbreak of ebola was controlled limbaugh was talking about immigrants bringing it to the US, like he did for the 2014 ebola event - blaming obama and turning 9 senate seats.

bolsanaro thanked the 'brazilian limbaugh' (carvalho) for his election success. he broadcast from virginia, shows up in photos with bannon, and died of covid after telling his audience it was a hoax.

LymphocyteLover

(5,647 posts)
3. Finally! I and others have been saying this for a while!
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 10:11 PM
Dec 2022

I'm convinced that this filters down south and they think the border is "open"

BOSSHOG

(37,077 posts)
6. Like "the election was stolen (and/or) rigged" ??
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 10:30 PM
Dec 2022

Conservatives don’t know how to lead, govern or manage money. But they do know how to stir up shit to mask the fact that they are incredibly incompetent at running a country. They also are incredibly adept at loving stupid people. Conservative politicians need stupid people like humans need oxygen.

drmeow

(5,021 posts)
5. Also - cheap labor
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 10:26 PM
Dec 2022

People would not cross the border if they can't get jobs. Right wing business owners love to hire people who will work for cheap and are afraid of complaining - it is their MO.

doc03

(35,354 posts)
9. Could fruit and vegetable farms, the meat packing industry, landscaping, oil and gas
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 10:36 PM
Dec 2022

industries to name a few operate without immigrant labor?

drmeow

(5,021 posts)
13. Not for a second!
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 11:13 PM
Dec 2022

And Texas and Florida rely on that immigrant labor. They want it both ways. Keep them coming, keep them illegal and powerless, keep the white citizen voters afraid and angry, rake in wealth and power - wash, rinse, repeat.

markodochartaigh

(1,138 posts)
14. It's never too late to stand up for the truth,
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 11:18 PM
Dec 2022

but if everyone at CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, and CBS had made a habit of it in 2015 the US wouldn't be where we are today.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
16. It's like they gave out an invitation but then claim it was someone elses party.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 11:32 PM
Dec 2022

For months, they kept saying the Trump rule was expiring, come now when you can.

keithbvadu2

(36,835 posts)
18. Republicans: why are you letting all these immigrants in?
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 11:34 PM
Dec 2022

Republicans: why are you letting all these immigrants in?

And then whining about it.

Donald said the wall is complete.

You know; the wall that was to keep them from coming in.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/15/politics/fact-check-trump-announcement-speech-2024/index.html

“We built the wall, and now we will add to it. Now, we built the wall – we completed the wall – and then we said let’s do more, and we did a lot more."

summer_in_TX

(2,739 posts)
22. Raddatz just rose in my estimation.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 01:31 AM
Dec 2022

So few reporters are willing to confront powerful people these days. I rarely watch her network so I don't have much of an impression one way or the other of her. But my expectations were pretty low.

flying_wahini

(6,617 posts)
25. Hoping that more reporters will ask DeS and Abbott about it every time they say that.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 11:49 AM
Dec 2022

Show the young reporters how to report and ask questions.
Our press sucks about pushing back. Yes, they do.

pandr32

(11,594 posts)
26. This point needs to be made repeatedly
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 01:10 PM
Dec 2022

Maybe some of the dim bulbs will finally realize their constant efforts to tar Democrats as lax on border security are causing a border problem.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
28. Yeah, they pretty much want them to come here.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 03:09 PM
Dec 2022

Two reasons: so they can hire them as cheap labor, but more importantly so they can rail against Democrats who “refuse to deal with the refuge/immigration influx/problem”. Fucking hypocrites .. and morons who listen to and get wound up by them.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
31. Journalists need to ask
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 05:17 PM
Dec 2022

Have you ever flown into the country from abroad?
Come on! Everyone gets checked, even US citizens at the border.
I’m so sick of the lies. Shut them down !

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

AZLD4Candidate

(5,703 posts)
34. Open borders are "common knowledge" don't you know, you liberal media fake
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 10:37 PM
Dec 2022

And Texass re-elected this colossal pompous ass.

MichMan

(11,940 posts)
35. If Abbott had never opened his mouth there would probably be a few hundred a day max claiming asylum
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 12:52 AM
Dec 2022

Not thousands and thousands like there has been.

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