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BumRushDaShow

(129,087 posts)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:18 PM Dec 2022

Co-leader of Whitmer kidnapping plot gets 16 years in prison

Source: AP

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (AP) — The co-leader of a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer was sentenced Tuesday to 16 years in prison for conspiring to abduct the Democrat and blow up a bridge to ease an escape. Adam Fox’s sentence is the longest of anyone convicted in the plot so far, though it’s significantly shorter than the life sentence that prosecutors sought.

Fox, 39, returned to federal court four months after he and Barry Croft Jr. were convicted of conspiracy charges at a second trial in Grand Rapids, Michigan. They were accused of organizing a wild plot to whip up anti-government extremists just before the 2020 presidential election. Their arrest, as well as the capture of 12 others, was a stunning coda to a tumultuous year of racial strife and political turmoil in the U.S.

The government said Croft offered bomb-making skills and ideology while Fox was the “driving force urging their recruits to take up arms, kidnap the governor and kill those who stood in their way.” But Judge Robert J. Jonker said that while Fox’s sentence was needed as a punishment and deterrent to future similar acts, the government’s request for life in prison is “not necessary to achieve those purposes.” “It’s too much. Something less than life gets the job done in this case,” Jonker said, later adding that 16 years behind bars “is still in my mind a very long time.”

Jonker said he also considered the emotional baggage Whitmer has to carry due to the plot. “It undoubtedly affects other people who are in public office or are considering public office,” he said. “They have to count the cost. That does need a forceful sentence from the court.”

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/gretchen-whitmer-politics-michigan-dd8c0cf8d7bb48e01c3befd4ed8db3ea



Article updated.

Previous article -

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (AP) -- The co-leader of a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer was sentenced Wednesday to 16 years in prison for conspiring to abduct the Democrat and blow up a bridge to ease an escape. Adam Fox returned to federal court Tuesday, four months after he and Barry Croft Jr. were convicted of conspiracy charges at a second trial in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

They were accused of being at the helm of a wild plot to whip up anti-government extremists just before the 2020 presidential election. Their arrest, as well as the capture of 12 others, was a stunning coda to a tumultuous year of racial strife and political turmoil in the U.S.

The government had pushed for a life sentence, saying Croft offered bomb-making skills and ideology while Fox was the "driving force urging their recruits to take up arms, kidnap the governor and kill those who stood in their way." But Judge Robert J. Jonker said that while Fox's sentence was needed as a punishment and deterrent to future similar acts, the government's request for life in prison is "not necessary to achieve those purposes."

"It's too much. Something less than life gets the job done in this case," Jonker said, later adding that 16 years in prison "is still in my mind a very long time." In addition to the 16-year prison sentence, Fox will have to serve five years of supervised release.


Original article -

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (AP) -- The co-leader of a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has been sentenced to 16 years in prison.

Adam Fox returned to federal court Tuesday, four months after he and Barry Croft Jr. were convicted of conspiracy charges at a second trial in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

They were accused of being at the helm of a wild plot to whip up anti-government extremists just before the 2020 presidential election. Whitmer wasn't physically harmed. The FBI was secretly embedded in the group and broke things up with 14 arrests.

The government said Croft offered bomb-making skills and ideology while Fox was the "driving force urging their recruits to take up arms, kidnap the governor and kill those who stood in their way." Croft will be sentenced Wednesday.

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Co-leader of Whitmer kidnapping plot gets 16 years in prison (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 OP
excellent llashram Dec 2022 #1
The minimum he will serve is about 13 years....... Jack from Charlotte Dec 2022 #9
Agree! sheshe2 Dec 2022 #15
yep llashram Dec 2022 #38
But I thought the DOJ didn't do anything about terrorists or insurrectionists AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2022 #2
These guys don't have... RussBLib Dec 2022 #6
Good! SheltieLover Dec 2022 #3
from stonekettle- mopinko Dec 2022 #4
... BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #7
Good looking guy, eh? Jack from Charlotte Dec 2022 #10
Seems he had tried to do the full beard thing at one point BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #11
A distant inbred cousin if Ted Cruz Blue Owl Dec 2022 #37
Jim's the best ;) (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #13
i bought 1 of his pens. it's lovely. mopinko Dec 2022 #14
Awesome news for this Tuesday morning - yay! n/t iluvtennis Dec 2022 #5
Good news but sentence to light IMHO. EOM tiredtoo Dec 2022 #8
Black man steals $100 bucks in street robbery...Gets 60 years Thunderbeast Dec 2022 #12
EXACTLY TB DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #17
Dumbo brain stuck on stupid Larissa Dec 2022 #16
Poor useful idiot didn't realize he wasn't as politically connected as those he ffr Dec 2022 #18
Should Have Gotten Life nt smb Dec 2022 #19
They conspired to kidnap her, they never did so. MichMan Dec 2022 #30
Agreed! ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #34
Those Trump Insurrectionists should have received 16 years--ALL OF THEM Bengus81 Dec 2022 #20
I wonder if Donald Trump will get 16 years? Stuart G Dec 2022 #23
Reason to make political affiliation a civil right. The Grand Illuminist Dec 2022 #26
That sentence is several decades too short. Like eight decades too short Novara Dec 2022 #21
like it republianmushroom Dec 2022 #22
Good news DashOneBravo Dec 2022 #24
Not good enough The Grand Illuminist Dec 2022 #25
Nor long enough oswaldactedalone Dec 2022 #27
Asshole got off easy. OverBurn Dec 2022 #28
Thank you Judge Jonker FakeNoose Dec 2022 #29
This is an appropriate sentence for a terrorist LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #31
"the request for life in prison is "not necessary to achieve (punishment and deterrence)" LudwigPastorius Dec 2022 #32
STILL not enough. louis-t Dec 2022 #33
Rot in Prison, Adam Fox. Cha Dec 2022 #35
Not enough!!!i BigmanPigman Dec 2022 #36

llashram

(6,265 posts)
1. excellent
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:22 PM
Dec 2022

now onto the rest of the scum-chum just below the radar. There were going to kill Gov. Whitmer, which shows no mercy needed to these dangerous clowns.

Jack from Charlotte

(2,367 posts)
9. The minimum he will serve is about 13 years.......
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:49 PM
Dec 2022

A Fed sentence gets at LEAST 85% served. This Republican Scum is age 39 so maybe he's out at age 52. He's already been convicted of other felonies so hopefully, he gets more.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,028 posts)
2. But I thought the DOJ didn't do anything about terrorists or insurrectionists
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:25 PM
Dec 2022

This can't be right, they didn't receive a slap on the wrist.

RussBLib

(9,019 posts)
6. These guys don't have...
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:41 PM
Dec 2022

...an endless stream of lawyers, and the charges were pretty clear.

I have become less impatient over T**** getting justice. I feel certain it's going to happen, but in such a high-profile case such as T****, they are still gathering evidence. So many took the 5th and will likely face DOJ subpoenas to pry open their traitorous mouths.

BumRushDaShow

(129,087 posts)
11. Seems he had tried to do the full beard thing at one point
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:54 PM
Dec 2022


FILE - In this courtroom drawing, from left, Brandon Caserta with his attorney Michael Darragh Hills, defendants Adam Fox, center, and Ty Garbin appear during a hearing in federal court in Grand Rapids, Mich., on Oct. 16, 2020. Federal prosecutors told a judge Monday, Dec. 5, 2022, that a life prison sentence would be justified for Fox, the leader of a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, saying his goal to turn the country upside down in 2020 was a forerunner of rampant anti-government extremism. (Jerry Lemenu via AP, File)

mopinko

(70,121 posts)
14. i bought 1 of his pens. it's lovely.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:06 PM
Dec 2022

1 of many things i’ve gotten out of du over the years is following this guy.
so glad he’s still kicking.

Thunderbeast

(3,417 posts)
12. Black man steals $100 bucks in street robbery...Gets 60 years
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:54 PM
Dec 2022

16 years for the leader of a violent insurrection sets a low ceiling. Foot soldiers in the militias will now see far lower sentences....Just long enough to bond with the
Skinheads and other Nazis inside.

I am guessing that at sentencing, the defendants shared photos of their pretty children, and invoked the Bible guy often.

I don't want to live in a totalitarian dictatorship, but in many countries, these guys would have all been summarily executed.



DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
17. EXACTLY TB
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:18 PM
Dec 2022

In the 80's, the Rocky Mountain News did an opposing pages comparison of just that.

On the left hand page, it showed some black guy, here in Denver, that robbed a 7-11 of 50 bucks, with no weapon, and got like 24 years.

On the right hand, opposing page, it showed Michael Wise, CEO of Silverado Savings here in Denver getting off scott free after fraudulently taking TWO BILLION dollars in Tax Payers money, which was the price of the Silverado Savings Bailout.....

The article told the story......Neil Bush was on the Board of Directors of Silverado, and the Judge was brought up from Texas to oversee the trial. The Texas judge made up a totally lame reason to dismiss the case against Michael Wise, THE VERY FIRST MORNING OF THE TRIAL.

Ironically, Michael Wise moved to Aspen, started a ponzi scheme that defrauded seven UBER RICH people in Aspen of their money.
He was tried and found guilty in short order, and ended up being sentenced to Leavenworth for years. He must not have realized that it was okay to fuck over the middle and lower classes and taxpayers, but NOT THE RICH.......
After Michael Wise got out of Leavenworth, he must have realized that he didn't know how to make any money, in a way that didn't involve corruption, and supposedly "jumped" off of parking Garage in Tampa?

Larissa

(790 posts)
16. Dumbo brain stuck on stupid
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:14 PM
Dec 2022

I could not help but be reminded of the Lindbergh kidnapping law passed in the 1930's. It made kidnapping a serious Federal crime that also allowed Federal authorities to cross state lines to pursue suspects. Perhaps this dead brain can bone up on his reading of American history while he's in the can. (I know. Slim chance of that happening.)

ffr

(22,670 posts)
18. Poor useful idiot didn't realize he wasn't as politically connected as those he
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:18 PM
Dec 2022

took dog whistle orders from.

I'm sure he'll start writing pardon request letters to Mitch McConnell, so that the first opportunity for there to be an R president, his name will be at the top of the list of scum.

MichMan

(11,932 posts)
30. They conspired to kidnap her, they never did so.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 04:19 PM
Dec 2022

Life sentence seems pretty harsh for a conspiracy charge.

ProfessorGAC

(65,068 posts)
34. Agreed!
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 07:40 PM
Dec 2022

That said, I think 16 years a bit light given the plan involved bombings & killing of anyone interfering.
If I heard 20 years, I think I'd find it acceptable. Not that big a difference, but planning to detonate bombs seems an exacerbating factor.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
20. Those Trump Insurrectionists should have received 16 years--ALL OF THEM
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:30 PM
Dec 2022

They only threatened to kill Pence and would have killed Pelosi. Oh...and then that overturning a legal election and overthrowing the Government thingy.

The Grand Illuminist

(1,334 posts)
26. Reason to make political affiliation a civil right.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:05 PM
Dec 2022

With that, this would be a hate crime and would face a minimum of 20 years and the victims would have the right to litigate for high civil damages.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
29. Thank you Judge Jonker
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:57 PM
Dec 2022

This is a just sentence, I believe. He gets 16 years in prison, or 13 would be the minimum, plus 5 years of supervised release once he gets out. If this guy doesn't get rehabilitated in prison, at least he can't be a danger to society while he's in there.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
32. "the request for life in prison is "not necessary to achieve (punishment and deterrence)"
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 04:55 PM
Dec 2022

OK, Judge, but this piece of shit will be 55 years young, or younger, when he gets out.

How is a not-life-in-prison sentence supposed to deter him from plotting another terrorist act then?

That's exactly the kind of logic I'd expect from a George W. Bush appointee.

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