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Kennah

(14,270 posts)
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 09:14 PM Dec 2022

Ukraine Defeats Russian Drone Swarm, as NATO Head Says Kyiv Needs More Arms

Source: NY Times

For the second day in a row, Russia launched an aerial barrage at Ukraine on Friday, but the Ukrainian military said it had intercepted all of the attacks, as the warring nations wage a lethal struggle of shifting offensive and defensive tactics.

The latest assault used 16 Iranian-made drones overnight, all of which were shot down, the Ukrainian air force said — a rare shutout, coming a day after Russian forces fired 70 cruise missiles and a smaller number of drones, some of which reached their targets.

The attack came as NATO’s secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, urged other countries to step up military support for Ukraine to fight off the Russian invasion, providing more weapons and — perhaps more important, he said — more ammunition for the weapons it already has. While there is likely to be a negotiated peace eventually, he said in an interview with the German news agency DPA, the military picture will determine the strength of Ukraine’s bargaining position.

“So if you want a negotiated peaceful solution ensuring that Ukraine prevails as an independent democratic state, the best way of achieving that is to provide Ukraine with military support,” he said.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/30/world/europe/ukraine-russia-drone-attacks.html



All 16 shot down. They batted 1.000
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Ukraine Defeats Russian Drone Swarm, as NATO Head Says Kyiv Needs More Arms (Original Post) Kennah Dec 2022 OP
kick BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #1
Any "Peace" Deal With Putin modrepub Dec 2022 #2
Agreed. bluedigger Dec 2022 #4
The west i.e. NATO will have to agree to secure a Ukrainian russian border for decades to come PortTack Jan 2023 #6
May it ALWAYS be so. peppertree Dec 2022 #3
Slava Ukraini! TomSlick Dec 2022 #5
Kick ck4829 Jan 2023 #7
Brave people tamtamp Jan 2023 #8

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
2. Any "Peace" Deal With Putin
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 09:26 PM
Dec 2022

is probably not worth the paper it's printed on. Since when has Putin demonstrated that he'll act within any law? If he senses a weakness or advantage he'll act upon it. I sincerely doubt Putin will keep his hands off the "prize". There will be "terrorist" attacks and assassination attempts well after any treaty is signed.

This "war", military action or whatever you want to call it is probably going to go on for a long time. Keep in mind Russian shenanigans in Ukraine have been going on for decades now.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
4. Agreed.
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 09:55 PM
Dec 2022

There is no hope of negotiating with the current regime. Ukraine must restore it's borders with military force or capitulation, and aim for an armistice at best, like the Koreas, as long as the current regime remains in Russia. Any thing less is just time for Putin to rearm and attack again.

PortTack

(32,771 posts)
6. The west i.e. NATO will have to agree to secure a Ukrainian russian border for decades to come
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 02:17 AM
Jan 2023

That was one of the ten points in President Zelensky’s peace proposal he put out about a month ago. If they don’t you’re right, the orcs will be back better trained and equipped. Good thing is, all the Eastern Europe nations know this

peppertree

(21,636 posts)
3. May it ALWAYS be so.
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 09:52 PM
Dec 2022

And Thank God we have a President willing to help make it happen - just when they needed it most.

Cheeto? He'd be selling the stuff to his Uncle Vlad!

"He likes me, ok?"

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
5. Slava Ukraini!
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 10:08 PM
Dec 2022

When will this have gone on long enough that we allow Ukraine to use US systems to strike missile, drone, and artillery sites across the Russian border?

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