Woman Dies After Tesla Crashes Into San Rafael Pool: CHP

[Caribbeans]

Source: NBC Bay Area

A Tesla driver is dead after she crashed into a swimming pool in San Rafael Saturday morning, the California Highway Patrol said...

It's unclear why the car veered or whether it was in autopilot at the time of the crash.


Read more: https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/tesla-crash-pool-san-rafael/3135733/

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[peppertree]

1. Photoshop a drunken, bloated ILL-on Musk by the pool - and you'd have a good meme

to describe what he's done to everything he's touched lately.

All the Best to that good lady's loved ones.

[littlemissmartypants]

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[blugbox]

39. Very appropriate user name lol

It's a play on his name. He's Elon musk but he's ill. Hence, ILL-on

[peppertree]

40. That's it

Thank you kindly.

[littlemissmartypants]

43. Too many, in attempts at cleverness, are written into eternal obscurity.

[truthisfreedom]

2. Teslas are not crash-proof.

Human error can crash them like any other car.

[paleotn]

6. Wait until you put it in self driving mode

Now THERE'S a disaster waiting to happen.

[CaptainTruth]

11. +1000

[Caribbeans]

10. Of course not. But fElon has sold lots of cars saying the following...

"I would be shocked if we do not achieve Full Self-Driving safer than a human this year. I would be shocked," Musk told analysts.

Tesla Full Self-Driving to be “safer than a human” in 2022, Elon Musk claims

Despite numerous videos of Tesla's new 'Full Self-Driving' system veering into obstacles and missing stop signs – amid investigations into road deaths by safety authorities – Elon Musk claims the tech will soon be "safer than a human" – a target he says is a "low standard".
https://www.drive.com.au/news/tesla-full-self-driving-safer-than-a-human-elon-musk-claims/

Many people believe the known and proven liar.

These cars are being beta-tested on the public - without consent

Meanwhile, the NTSB and NHTSA have massively failed those who they are tasked to protect. Maybe many of the employees own stock?

BREAKING TWEET:

2:38 PM · Jan 21, 2023

Link to tweet

[Demsrule86]

16. Most crashes are because of Tesla defects...that doesn't look like an ordinary crash.

[beaglelover]

44. Would love to see the data to back up that statement.

[Demsrule86]

46. It is a self driving car. I can't wrap my head

around those who defend racist Avon bag ElonMusk and his crappy dangerous cars… worst quality numbers of any vehicle. Ah well, he will be bought out or go under he squandered the time when he owned the market. I for one will be happy to see him go. He is a bad guy. Let’s not enrich him. I Joe he is held to account by the families of those who have died in his wretched cars. Read the vehicle reports.

[Zorro]

47. Crappy dangerous cars?

It's quite obvious you've never driven one.

[beaglelover]

48. Exactly. I'm no Elon fan, but my Tesla Model 3 has been the best car I've ever owned.

I've had it almost 3 years, it has only had to go to service once. I've had to replace a few tires due to flats. That's it!

And I LOVE that I can drive with 1 foot. I very rarely use the brake pedal. The instant acceleration is the best feature. Very easy to get around in L.A. traffic.

With Elon's latest shit since buying Twitter, I was against getting another Tesla when my lease expires in June. I put a deposit on the Cadillac Lyric. But Cadillac is way behind in delieveries, so even if I extended my lease on the Tesla to end of year, I still may not have the Lyric in time. So, I think I'm just going to go ahead and get another Model 3 in the exact same configuration as I have today. Plus Tesla just lowered the prices. Win win.

[bucolic_frolic]

3. Water meets electric, she must have been Freedom Fried

The electric driver's seat

[krkaufman]

12. Good lord

I hope I’m completely missing the meaning of this post because it seems ******* heartless.

[housecat]

13. Musk is heartless, and a woman died. What other meaning?

[NullTuples]

4. Not much is known, no good to speculate...my condolences to her loved ones.

The pool is at 44 Bonnie Banks Road, San Rafael, if you want to Google map it. On the corner of San Pedro & Bayview Roads. I know that road & that's not the sort of curve where one would expect to end up plowing through the fence of someone's backyard; it's more likely to hit the center median. Though she could've done so, swerved back & lost control...or it could've been autopilot, health condition, or who knows what.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/44+Bonnie+Banks+Way,+San+Rafael,+CA+94901/@37.9759534,-122.4823776,198m

About all that's known at this point is that she was NOT wearing her seatbelt, which has led some to assume perhaps she was letting the car drive (though maybe she just didn't like wearing her seatbelt).

https://www.ktvu.com/news/woman-dies-in-san-rafael-after-crashing-tesla-into-swimming-pool

[IcyPeas]

5. another one ended up in a pool? I posted this a few weeks ago in Pasadena....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217548169

[NullTuples]

28. Pools are in backyards, backyards abut fast roads...

It does make one curious as to whether Teslas are more prone to that sort of accident - or just make the headlines right now because anything with the stench of Elon on it gets clicks, hits and views.

[Mr.Bill]

7. At least the pool doesn't have gasoline

and oil floating on it.

Condolences to the family of the woman.

[Locrian]

24. true, but

there's anywhere up to 100 kilowatt hours (360 Mega-Jouiles) of energy in the batteries.

[NullTuples]

29. Totally OT, but it's amazing that 100 incandescent bulbs lit for 1 hr can drive a car 300+ miles

We've come so far in terms of efficiency when it comes to making electrons work for us.

Yet gas/coal/natural gas are pretty much just as (in)efficient as they have been for generations*.

[Locrian]

35. 1000

1000 100 watt bulbs for 1 hr
or 100 1000 watt bulbs - yikes

but yeah, neat - if my math is right (and google is right) a gallon of gas is about 120 MegaJoules.
You throw a LOT of that away as heat.

[NullTuples]

41. Ooops - thanks for the math correction. Still amazing to me!

Somewhere up in the attic I have a 1000 watt incandescent bulb. It's the size of a balloon & has a scaled up standard looking base, but otherwise looks just like a regular incandescent. It came from an 40 year old (at that time) school auditorium when they renovated it back in the late 1970's.

Regarding so much of the energy in gas being lost as heat, I wonder if that is what will slow adoption of electric vehicles in snow states? I wonder if people will learn to warm up the interior while still plugged in? So many little changes coming...

[d_r]

8. seems shocking

[orangecrush]

9. ...

[Joinfortmill]

14. Everything he touches dies, too. Don't buy these cars, people.

[Warpy]

15. It's a shame the self driving feature doesn't work

because my blind ass would love to sit in a truly self driving vehicle. The hardest part about losing my sight is not being able to drive in a city designed for cars, not people.

[LisaM]

17. I'm sorry about that.

I was walking to the light rail yesterday and noticed four of those stupid scooters tipped over on the other side of the sidewalk and my immediate thought was that they were a hazard for the visually impaired. Frankly, the scooter set absolutely doesn't care.

[Warpy]

18. We don't have those here

Distances are too far to make them practical and the cement lined arroyos would be too much of a temptation for riders.

[NullTuples]

25. It's a shame only because we refuse to regulate it. It does have potential to do good.

But corporations mustn't ever be held accountable, so they use public streets and paying customers to do their alpha and beta testing for them. It's so much cheaper even with lawsuits (often paid by insurance or written down as an expense) than paying for proper testing and not releasing products until they are deemed safe by independent government labs.

[RipVanWinkle]

34. Tesla Model Y received the highest safety score ever in Europe.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2022/09/07/tesla-model-y-gets-highest-safety-score-ever-in-european-test/?sh=12551d004ff3

I've owned a Tesla Model Y for two years. I've had no problems.

FSD (full service driving) is an option. I don't have FSD.

[moniss]

19. Remember the recent

disclosure by an engineer from Tesla that the company faked the videos of the car running around in self driving mode. Don't know about this one for sure but I do know the Giants suck in any mode.

[KPN]

30. Lol. Yeah, but they were fun till yesterday!

[Warpy]

20. If the self driver wasn't engaged

I have to wonder about suicide.

It would be terrifying but probably pretty quick.

[XorXor]

21. While that's always possible, I'm not sure driving into a random backyard is

A typical move for someone trying to commit suicide. If not the fault of autopilot, then under the influence of something or even a medical emergency would be my first guess. My father recently had a stroke while driving. Had the situation been slightly different, then things could have been much worse for him and others on the road.

[NullTuples]

26. I doubt she knew the pool was there. From San Pedro Rd it looks like a row of backyard fence.

It's right after a small rise on an inside corner though, which leads me to posit either she was driving and hit the median, then over-corrected - or autopilot got confused. For much of my life, Marin has had median curbs on many 45 mph four lane roads that are virtually invisible during certain conditions.

[RussBLib]

32. Not locked? Nt

[twodogsbarking]

23. My first car was a 1966 Corvair. They may not have been "safe" but

here I am.

[NullTuples]

27. Few cars from the past weren't safe but then we regulated them. Self driving? Not so much, no...

At risk of sounding like a broken vinyl LP...we really need to bring back regulation. Real regulation, with enforcement and teeth, of corporations.

[Unca Jim]

31. I get we all dislike that tool Musk, but...

The victim swerved off the road, through the fence, and wasn't wearing a seatbelt.

Almost very other time a Tesla (or some other car) ends up in a pool people seem to get out alive.

I wouldn't be so quick to ascribe blame until I know more; seems likely this might have been a suicide.

[RipVanWinkle]

33. Tesla autopilot is not full service driving.

Autopilot in a Tesla is traffic aware cruise control and lane-keeping. FSD means the car pretty much drives itself in some situations.

[msfiddlestix]

37. I'm trying to wrap my head around the car crashing into a backyard pool, from the road.

[Kaleva]

45. There's vids on YouTube showing cars flying into pools

or into and sometimes through homes. It happens. Late last year, a drunk semitrailer truck driver drive into a gas station and the ensuing fire demolished it. One person gassing up his pickup truck was trapped and died.

[Vinca]

38. Maybe she was just a garden variety drunk driver.

[housecat]

42. Looks like Musk is getting hit on several fronts.