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News Junkie

(312 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 10:39 AM Jan 2023

South Dakota Gov. Noem threatens charges for abortion pills

Source: Associated Press

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem, along with the state’s Republican attorney general, said Tuesday the state will prosecute pharmacists who dispense abortion-inducing pills following a recent Food and Drug Administration rule change that broadens access to the pills.

The Republican governor and South Dakota Attorney General Marty Jackley released a letter to South Dakota pharmacists saying they are “subject to felony prosecution” if they procure or dispense abortion-inducing drugs. The state bans all abortions except to save the life of the pregnant person.

“South Dakota will continue to enforce all laws including those that respect and protect the lives of the unborn,” Noem and Jackley said in the letter.

The FDA earlier this month formally updated labeling for abortion pills to allow many more retail pharmacies to dispense them, so long as they complete a certification process.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/abortion-health-sd-state-wire-south-dakota-medication-21146e96236c67244331a8cfe64e84d3

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South Dakota Gov. Noem threatens charges for abortion pills (Original Post) News Junkie Jan 2023 OP
Pure grandstanding. Pharmacy chains have already said they will not sell abortion pills in states Lonestarblue Jan 2023 #1
I wonder if this is akin to sales bans of plants to states and territories Model35mech Jan 2023 #13
But not condoms....... Lovie777 Jan 2023 #2
Post removed Post removed Jan 2023 #7
wait...wut? ragheads? and cow? ret5hd Jan 2023 #9
Wow. Lots of meds can "produce abortions" or are teratogenic if preganant. Freethinker65 Jan 2023 #3
South Dakota, Republican assholes since 1889. jaxexpat Jan 2023 #4
I'm pretty sure men will provide their mistresses the pills tho.... Lovie777 Jan 2023 #5
Enjoying all your freedom, South Dakota? Mysterian Jan 2023 #6
This does not have a heartbeat & yet has more rights than women. CrispyQ Jan 2023 #8
Thank you BlueSky3 Jan 2023 #10
I can't believe the pro-choice movement hasn't' plastered this image on billboards, CrispyQ Jan 2023 #14
Yes, me too. BlueSky3 Jan 2023 #16
Some should ask her if her husband should be allowed to get a vasectomy.... turbinetree Jan 2023 #11
Ah, but we must not forget Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #20
good one...... turbinetree Jan 2023 #21
Doctors can prescribe for off-label uses. keithbvadu2 Jan 2023 #12
What about a woman's privacy? Maraya1969 Jan 2023 #15
Women are not human, therefore they have no privacy. niyad Jan 2023 #19
I swear, it won't be long now before these misogynists start wearing the blood-red Aristus Jan 2023 #28
They have not been pretending for a very long time. This time, their robes are black. niyad Jan 2023 #29
And there's a woman in their ranks. Aristus Jan 2023 #31
Some women align themselves with the patriarchy, thinking they will be the special ones, the niyad Jan 2023 #32
How soon before keroro gunsou Jan 2023 #35
Probably already has. niyad Jan 2023 #36
It's time for the Federal gov to step in and slap the taste out of these fascist states. Ny yaesu Jan 2023 #17
She is a perfect example of a self-loathing woman. niyad Jan 2023 #18
I propose a new law Jerry2144 Jan 2023 #22
HEAR!!!! HEAR!!!! niyad Jan 2023 #30
Hypocrisy - thy name is Republican 3825-87867 Jan 2023 #23
It's unenforceable Warpy Jan 2023 #24
Desperate to remain relevant to the Magat's. NoMoreRepugs Jan 2023 #25
They should just ban sex. James48 Jan 2023 #26
Ah-hah jmowreader Jan 2023 #27
God these people suck. Initech Jan 2023 #33
Does she know every woman in her state personally and their medical issues and family situations? Rhiannon12866 Jan 2023 #34

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
1. Pure grandstanding. Pharmacy chains have already said they will not sell abortion pills in states
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 10:42 AM
Jan 2023

that ban abortion.

Model35mech

(1,531 posts)
13. I wonder if this is akin to sales bans of plants to states and territories
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 12:01 PM
Jan 2023

that are deemed in conflict with state and territorial agriculture policies.

Clearly abortion pill bans aren't exactly the same thing, but I wonder if they may, in a legal sense, broadly overlap in terms of state powers and thereby lend themselves as argumentation that states have the power to ban movement of a product into their territory.

BTW I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF BANNING PHARMACEUTICALS THAT PREVENT IMPLANTATION.

Response to Lovie777 (Reply #2)

Freethinker65

(10,016 posts)
3. Wow. Lots of meds can "produce abortions" or are teratogenic if preganant.
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 10:45 AM
Jan 2023

I assume she is proposing denying legal medications to every South Dakotan, or is she just singling out females of child bearing age? Pretty sure that is not constitutional. Perhaps resign and classify woman as merely property and not human beings in South Dakota?

Lovie777

(12,257 posts)
5. I'm pretty sure men will provide their mistresses the pills tho....
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 10:52 AM
Jan 2023

Illegal drug smuggling will have top notch profits. Illegal abortionists will be plenty and countless women and babies will die. Same shit that happened over 50 years ago but in two-fold. Pro-life people are pro-death.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
8. This does not have a heartbeat & yet has more rights than women.
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 11:05 AM
Jan 2023

Last edited Wed Jan 25, 2023, 12:10 PM - Edit history (1)


Pregnancy tissue at six weeks

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
14. I can't believe the pro-choice movement hasn't' plastered this image on billboards,
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 12:09 PM
Jan 2023

TV commercials, magazine ads, pretty much everywhere, across the nation.

BlueSky3

(511 posts)
16. Yes, me too.
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 12:13 PM
Jan 2023

You can’t drive past our local Catholic church without seeing some sort of photoshopped image of a “baby” in the womb.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
11. Some should ask her if her husband should be allowed to get a vasectomy....
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 11:41 AM
Jan 2023

fascist......coming from the same person that defrauded the taxpayers of the state using a state plane for personnel business......in other words she is a fraud....even if she did get off....great ethics board lets gaslight the public....with semantics...

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/south-dakota/articles/2022-12-20/ethics-board-dismisses-noem-plane-case-says-law-is-unclear

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
20. Ah, but we must not forget
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 12:21 PM
Jan 2023

That an almost invisible sperm wiggled it's way into the egg cytoplasm and there it is sanctified as life by most invisible gods

Yet despite an invisible god sanctifying this magical moment, only 27% if these eggs will have survived 6 weeks later. That's right 73% of them die before 6 weeks and another 10% will die after that. Thank god.

See all HUMAN life is sanctified by invisible gods. We must allow those eggs invaded by sperms to do their magical mystery things despite how it interferes with free will, bodily autonomy or reality because god.

keithbvadu2

(36,787 posts)
12. Doctors can prescribe for off-label uses.
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 12:00 PM
Jan 2023

Abortion Pills, Once a Workaround, Are Now a Target

Doctors can prescribe for off-label uses.

Off-label prescribing is when a physician gives you a drug that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved to treat a condition different than your condition. This practice is legal and common. In fact, one in five prescriptions written today are for off-label use.

Maybe like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine?

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=prescribe+medications+off-label

Just be sure to mention side effects.

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
15. What about a woman's privacy?
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 12:13 PM
Jan 2023

“South Dakota will continue to enforce all laws including those that respect and protect the lives of the unborn,” Noem and Jackley said in the letter.

Aristus

(66,327 posts)
28. I swear, it won't be long now before these misogynists start wearing the blood-red
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 02:26 PM
Jan 2023

robes of the Inquisition.

They're not even pretending anymore...

niyad

(113,279 posts)
32. Some women align themselves with the patriarchy, thinking they will be the special ones, the
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 02:42 PM
Jan 2023

ones who will not be hurt by the system.

Jerry2144

(2,100 posts)
22. I propose a new law
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 12:25 PM
Jan 2023

Any testicular-American who is anti-abortion and anti-choice shall be neutered. With a dull pair of toenail clippers and a rusty hedge trimmer. And no pain killer.

3825-87867

(844 posts)
23. Hypocrisy - thy name is Republican
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 12:26 PM
Jan 2023

Since not ALL "Pills" are designed to cause abortion, but some pills for other uses created with no intent to cause abortion MIGHT cause abortion:

If Republican anti-abortionist Politicians are so filled with dread that "pills for abortions" in the mail or corner drugstore or doctor's Rx can be used to murder babies ( they don't worry about the mothers) should be made illegal, shouldn't they feel bullets and guns should be illegal, too? Dunno? Can bullets and guns be used to kill babies, women and/or men, too? Inquiring minds want to know!

Maybe make buying guns and ammo thru the mail, across state lines, in malls, etc. illegal, also?

The National and States Congressional Taliban Republicans feel it's ok to have a right to potentially kill a human being with a gun so long as they have been born (women's rights are currently pending - tentatively subject to revocation!). Seems men have a "right" to purchase" something that MIGHT kill, but women can't! Oh wait. Women can purchase guns and ammo...so far, but not pretty much ANY pill the Taliban thinks MIGHT cause an abortion - just in case! (because concern for life!) should be outlawed.

Makes senese in a twisted, Republican/Fox/NRA/religious way, doesn't it"

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
24. It's unenforceable
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 12:37 PM
Jan 2023

since there is no way she can get records from out of state doctors who prescribe them and I doubt the USPS is going to rat out any of the recipients, not even if they recognize a return address on the package. In addition, pharmacies in SD will stock the drug because it has uses other than pregnancy termination. So the grandstanding saloppe is SOL right from the beginning.

The most they can hope for is some discarded man whining to the cops that the ex undid the holy work of his golden rod, and that's not evidence, it's complaining.

James48

(4,435 posts)
26. They should just ban sex.
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 01:06 PM
Jan 2023

Caught making Whoopie?

Into the clink you go!

Preganancy tests should come with a DNA indicator too, so that new mom-to-be can bring suit against the offending sperm shooter.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
27. Ah-hah
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 02:18 PM
Jan 2023

And since there is a faction of the hard right that believes birth control induces abortion, expect “or devices” to be added to this law before Miss East Carolina gets it, and the end result will be a contraception ban in South Dakota.

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