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News Junkie

(312 posts)
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 12:57 PM Feb 2023

DeSantis signs bill that gives him more control of Disney's special district

Source: CNN

Appearing at the doorstep of Walt Disney World, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill Monday that gives him new power over Disney, effectively punishing the entertainment giant for speaking out against the Republican’s political agenda.

The new law amounts to a state takeover of the Reedy Creek Improvement District, the government body that has given Disney unique powers in Central Florida for more than half a century. It allows the governor to replace the district’s existing board – mostly people with ties to Disney – with a five-member body that he hand-picks.

“Today, the corporate kingdom finally comes to an end,” DeSantis said Monday at a Reedy Creek fire station in Lake Buena Vista, Florida. “There’s a new sheriff in town and accountability will be the order of the day.”

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/27/politics/desantis-disney-reedy-creek/index.html

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DeSantis signs bill that gives him more control of Disney's special district (Original Post) News Junkie Feb 2023 OP
Any chance they'll build a new Disney World somewhere a little less fascist? -nt CrispyQ Feb 2023 #1
Desantis World Historic NY Feb 2023 #2
And a Mickey Mouse governor to go with it peppertree Feb 2023 #13
From the 'happiest place on earth' to fascism. sinkingfeeling Feb 2023 #3
Right? It seems more like 'total control' News Junkie Feb 2023 #6
Just wait until Homeowners and Businesses get their new Property Tax statements. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2023 #4
That's right! MayReasonRule Feb 2023 #37
Disney will still pay all of the tax assessments Zeitghost Feb 2023 #58
Yep, you're correct. Thank you MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #70
what good is this doing the state in general? could disney sue? AllaN01Bear Feb 2023 #5
No. You can't sue because your sweet deal that only your company benefitted from jimfields33 Feb 2023 #9
You mean they don't have stock holders? Samrob Feb 2023 #20
Sounds like this tyrant is taking advice from his friend Putin . geretogo Feb 2023 #7
The GOP are now against unions AND corporations. It's a unique postition. ZonkerHarris Feb 2023 #27
Conversely Zeitghost Feb 2023 #59
no, we're saying the state should stand by the deals they make and not pass laws to punish a busines ZonkerHarris Feb 2023 #63
I agree the motives are sinister Zeitghost Feb 2023 #65
and Disney ran it better than the banana republic that is Florida. Florida has made more off Disney ZonkerHarris Feb 2023 #66
So give corporations Zeitghost Feb 2023 #67
Here is hoping that the Mouse pulls out of Florida lonely bird Feb 2023 #8
Don't know if Disney could absorb that much physical loss SouthernDem4ever Feb 2023 #10
They'll Support Him For President, Then He Won't Be Governor Of The Shithole State SoCalDavidS Feb 2023 #11
That won't help - there are plenty of intern dictators ready to take his place down there SouthernDem4ever Feb 2023 #16
Yeah, Disney Is Stuck With It SoCalDavidS Feb 2023 #22
Companies close plants all the time lonely bird Feb 2023 #39
This Is The Dumbest Idea Imaginable SoCalDavidS Feb 2023 #40
What company in US history has ever moved that was the size of Disneyland? Polybius Feb 2023 #42
The U.S. Military. Dan Feb 2023 #43
That is impossible Zeitghost Feb 2023 #60
I no longer give a fuck lonely bird Feb 2023 #64
Mickey and the rest of the employees could use a long paid vacation. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2023 #34
A new sheriff? SouthernDem4ever Feb 2023 #12
Just legislatively declare DeSantis King of Florida and be done with it. Freethinker65 Feb 2023 #14
Theft by taking /nt bucolic_frolic Feb 2023 #15
Just to be clear, DeSantis doesn't control Disney World now. Fiendish Thingy Feb 2023 #17
Lawsuit! I smell lawsuit! Disney apparently has waited until his boasts became law. Now we will see. machoneman Feb 2023 #23
Nelson Pelz "activist investor" wants on Disney's board of directors and is a DeSantis donor. Zipgun Feb 2023 #18
So, will the new sheriff be arresting people for wokeness? William Seger Feb 2023 #19
Yes and the beatings will start immediately! Drop your drawers and show me your sex! STAT! machoneman Feb 2023 #24
What should be Disney's response jmowreader Feb 2023 #21
+1 TeamProg Feb 2023 #25
The district still owes the money Zeitghost Feb 2023 #61
If you have a business and oppose the GOP they will try to destroy it. New world order ZonkerHarris Feb 2023 #26
As I keep saying: DeSantis is a lot scarier than trump. Paladin Feb 2023 #28
Disney should sue in the grounds of a 1st amendment violation as the law that was passed was done so cstanleytech Feb 2023 #29
This is surreal. Aren't corporations persons since Citizens United? ananda Feb 2023 #30
Thats why I said they should sue. It would have the effect of either overturning Citizens United or cstanleytech Feb 2023 #38
Exactly! ananda Feb 2023 #50
Hmmm. Assuming DeSantis has presidential ambitions, he's going to need positive national alwaysinasnit Feb 2023 #31
Guess Who Owns The ABC Network? SoCalDavidS Feb 2023 #46
Guess who? alwaysinasnit Feb 2023 #48
Like I Said, A Big Corporation, Owned By Billionaire repubs, Who Only Care About Tax Cuts SoCalDavidS Feb 2023 #52
This is also about the control of media mountain grammy Feb 2023 #32
Welcome to Dismaland (Banksy's Bemusement Park) (pictures) IcyPeas Feb 2023 #33
I hope they pull up stakes and move to another state where they are appreciated. appleannie1 Feb 2023 #35
Bookmark This Post SoCalDavidS Feb 2023 #41
I wonder, what is the cost to Disney Dan Feb 2023 #44
How Many People Do You Figure That Is? SoCalDavidS Feb 2023 #45
I honestly don't know how many... Dan Feb 2023 #47
That State Is Dead To Me SoCalDavidS Feb 2023 #49
I quit going to Florida even before Deathsentence became Governor appleannie1 Feb 2023 #51
Disney shares up 0.4% Monday, Cost to Florida taxpayers $1 to $2 Billion MayReasonRule Feb 2023 #36
The entity can only tax property owners in the district Zeitghost Feb 2023 #62
Thank you! Indeed your are correct... I'd missed that he'd altered the original bill. MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #68
DeathSantis' first bill would have had Florida taxpayers pick up $2 billion in debt LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #53
GAY twodogsbarking Feb 2023 #54
Just have your legislature declare you King of Florida, DeSadist. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2023 #55
Does this stop Disney from supporting progressive issues? News Junkie Feb 2023 #56
Not directly... but "it depends" FBaggins Mar 2023 #69
Too bad DownriverDem Feb 2023 #57

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,630 posts)
4. Just wait until Homeowners and Businesses get their new Property Tax statements.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 01:02 PM
Feb 2023

See how that will go over! I doubt Floridians will be all that happy.

MayReasonRule

(4,015 posts)
37. That's right!
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 03:50 PM
Feb 2023

Estimates place it somewhere between $1 to $2 Billion.

That's the taxpayer's burden.

$1 to $2 Billion to "own the libs".

These idiots would cut their own dick off and shove it up your ass to just to claim that some-one else is "GAY"...

For fucks sake.

May reason rule.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
9. No. You can't sue because your sweet deal that only your company benefitted from
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 01:12 PM
Feb 2023

is being taken away. Lol.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
59. Conversely
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 07:27 PM
Feb 2023

We know have a large contingent of progressive liberals arguing that the State government should continue to cede control of property tax assessments, zoning and building permits to a large corporation for their sole benefit.

Politics makes for for strange bedfellows.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
63. no, we're saying the state should stand by the deals they make and not pass laws to punish a busines
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 09:03 PM
Feb 2023

that disagrees with them publicly

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
65. I agree the motives are sinister
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 09:17 PM
Feb 2023

But the idea that we should never question a government law/policy/action taken/written expressly to give a corporation power and money is crazy.

The Disney deal in Florida exempts them from sales and property taxes and gives them power to approve their own building permits and zoning regulations is insane and shouldn't be supported by anyone claiming to be a progressive. If this district were being proposed today by Disney, DU would be in an uproar.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
66. and Disney ran it better than the banana republic that is Florida. Florida has made more off Disney
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 09:20 PM
Feb 2023

than they can count

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
67. So give corporations
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 11:12 PM
Feb 2023

governmental power, a self permitting process and massive tax breaks, but only in Florida? Only in red states?

lonely bird

(2,778 posts)
8. Here is hoping that the Mouse pulls out of Florida
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 01:10 PM
Feb 2023

And absolutely destroys every ride, attraction and whatever that they cannot take with them.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
10. Don't know if Disney could absorb that much physical loss
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 01:21 PM
Feb 2023

I can see them doing what they can to get rid of Desantis. That is their best chance.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
11. They'll Support Him For President, Then He Won't Be Governor Of The Shithole State
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 01:23 PM
Feb 2023

He'll just be President of the Shithole country.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
16. That won't help - there are plenty of intern dictators ready to take his place down there
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 01:26 PM
Feb 2023

He's made the blueprint for them to follow.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
22. Yeah, Disney Is Stuck With It
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 02:05 PM
Feb 2023

Unlike what some people have suggested, they can't just move.

lonely bird

(2,778 posts)
39. Companies close plants all the time
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 07:18 PM
Feb 2023

Sure, Disney would take a hit but if they wanted to move they could.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
40. This Is The Dumbest Idea Imaginable
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 07:53 PM
Feb 2023

It amazes me how people even suggest this is a possibility. It is ridiculous.

We're talking about the largest theme park in the world. They can't move it, and it won't be closed. They'll suck up whatever consequences come their way.

I'm obviously wasting my time trying to explain this reality, so I'll end this conversation here.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
60. That is impossible
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 07:34 PM
Feb 2023

Disney could not get the financing needed to move/rebuild Disney World, even if they could find a suitable place with enough land. Nobody would finance a move that financially irresponsible.

Investors and creditors would flee like rats off a sinking ship. It would be financial ruin to attempt such a thing.

34. Mickey and the rest of the employees could use a long paid vacation.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 03:14 PM
Feb 2023

"Shut Down by Order of Gov. DeSantis"

Fiendish Thingy

(22,081 posts)
17. Just to be clear, DeSantis doesn't control Disney World now.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 01:29 PM
Feb 2023

He can control the board that manages the land and infrastructure that Disney World is built on, and if Disney doesn’t like how the board behaves, they can still sue or leave.

machoneman

(4,128 posts)
23. Lawsuit! I smell lawsuit! Disney apparently has waited until his boasts became law. Now we will see.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 02:05 PM
Feb 2023

Besides Disney's megabucks and army of lawyers, we could also see many a lawsuit filed by residents, affected counties, Disney employees and a raft of Disney item sellers outside of the actual Reedy Creek site...and believe me, there are many of them with a vested interest in not upsetting the very profitable apple cart!

Zipgun

(231 posts)
18. Nelson Pelz "activist investor" wants on Disney's board of directors and is a DeSantis donor.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 01:35 PM
Feb 2023

Desantis has given Pelz's son millions in no bid Covid contracts. It's a multi layered assault. Pelz recently ended his bid for a seat on the board, but could take another run at it at any time.

jmowreader

(52,908 posts)
21. What should be Disney's response
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 01:54 PM
Feb 2023

Dear Governor DeSantis:

In 2022 we contracted with Rosenbauer America to purchase 25 new fire engines for the Reedy Creek Improvement District at a total cost of $32 million, with Chevrolet to purchase 200 new police cars at a total cost of $6 million and with nine paving contractors to provide a total of $50 million in new and upgraded streets within the Reedy Creek Improvement District. None of these contracts are cancelable.

You will be pleased to know that those eleven firms have agreed to send their bills to the State of Florida since we no longer have the authority to pay them ourselves.

With warmest regards.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
61. The district still owes the money
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 07:38 PM
Feb 2023

And the property owners in the district (Disney) will still be assessed a tax to pay them.

Paladin

(32,303 posts)
28. As I keep saying: DeSantis is a lot scarier than trump.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 02:36 PM
Feb 2023

More evidence of that, every day. Basic reason: unlike trump, DeSantis is not a fucking moron.

cstanleytech

(28,232 posts)
29. Disney should sue in the grounds of a 1st amendment violation as the law that was passed was done so
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 02:46 PM
Feb 2023

purely to punish Disney for expressing in essence it's speech.

cstanleytech

(28,232 posts)
38. Thats why I said they should sue. It would have the effect of either overturning Citizens United or
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 05:39 PM
Feb 2023

cost the state of Florida an arm and a leg $$$$ wise not to mention maybe dealing a crippling blow to the Republicans there.

alwaysinasnit

(5,549 posts)
31. Hmmm. Assuming DeSantis has presidential ambitions, he's going to need positive national
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 02:56 PM
Feb 2023

media exposure. Guess who owns the ABC network?

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
46. Guess Who Owns The ABC Network?
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 09:01 PM
Feb 2023

Probably a bunch of repubs who only care if he is for lowering Taxes.

alwaysinasnit

(5,549 posts)
48. Guess who?
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 09:03 PM
Feb 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Broadcasting_Company

The American Broadcasting Company (ABC) is an American commercial broadcast television network. It is the flagship property of the Disney Entertainment division of The Walt Disney Company.

snip...
 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
52. Like I Said, A Big Corporation, Owned By Billionaire repubs, Who Only Care About Tax Cuts
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 12:28 AM
Feb 2023

mountain grammy

(28,695 posts)
32. This is also about the control of media
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 02:58 PM
Feb 2023

From the article.. it's revenge

Monday’s bill signing event turned into a lengthy takedown of Disney that extended beyond its foray in Florida’s legislative activity. DeSantis featured speakers who assailed the company’s vaccine and mask policies, its treatment of firefighters and its more recent entertainment offerings.


It's republican justice for what they consider to be against their so called moral code. Florida is fucked up.

appleannie1

(5,412 posts)
35. I hope they pull up stakes and move to another state where they are appreciated.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 03:25 PM
Feb 2023

Florida would lose millions of dollars in taxes, and it would hit small businesses that depend on tourists like a sledge hammer. I hope Universal and all the other theme parks follow suit.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
41. Bookmark This Post
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 07:57 PM
Feb 2023

I tell you what. I'll write you a check for $10,000 when that happens.

Newsflash. It will NEVER happen. You don't move the largest theme park in the world. Do you have any concept of what the cost would be to buy enough land and recreate the infrastructure for that park? Not to mention the cost of moving the attractions?

LOL!! Ridiculous.

Dan

(4,987 posts)
44. I wonder, what is the cost to Disney
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 08:53 PM
Feb 2023

Of people deciding not to come to Florida/Disney because of destantis?

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
45. How Many People Do You Figure That Is?
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 08:59 PM
Feb 2023

Disneyworld draws a lot of it's visitors from outside America. Most, if not all, of them, don't care who the Governor is.

And while there may be people in America who will boycott going to Florida, that # is very few. People are weak, and don't let politics stand in their way of having a good time at Disneyworld. I won't visit the state, but I assure you, I'm in the minority. Most people would hear my reason for not going to Florida, and laugh.

I've even gotten into arguments right here on DU about boycotting Florida. People who waste their time pointing out that many Democrats live there. Like I didn't know that.

Half of this country doesn't even bother to vote. Most people simply don't care about the fact DeSatan is a piece of shit, or even know who he is for that matter.

Dan

(4,987 posts)
47. I honestly don't know how many...
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 09:02 PM
Feb 2023

But I do wonder if DeSatan runs for president - will his policies/views/opinions get more world wide attention, and thus impact Disney negatively.

Like you, our family which has visited Disney in the past - no longer will visit the state of Florida.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
49. That State Is Dead To Me
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 09:10 PM
Feb 2023

I honestly don't think it will ever turn itself around at this point. Same goes for Texas.

The 2 Red states I will find hard to give up are Louisiana & Ohio. The 1st, because Nawlins' is perhaps my favorite city in the country. And the other because of the R&R Hall Of Fame.

I really wish that my "boycotting" of red states would have an impact, but I know it won't. It will only impact my enjoyment of the limited time of life I have left. I'd very much like to visit places like Nashville & Memphis, or even Dollywood, but don't want to set foot in TN.

appleannie1

(5,412 posts)
51. I quit going to Florida even before Deathsentence became Governor
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 10:26 PM
Feb 2023

Their Stand You Ground law was one reason but only one. I have a lot of other reasons as well. And I would take my great grandkids clear across the country to Disneyland before I would take them to Disneyworld.

MayReasonRule

(4,015 posts)
36. Disney shares up 0.4% Monday, Cost to Florida taxpayers $1 to $2 Billion
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 03:46 PM
Feb 2023

Disney World is the largest employer in central Florida with close to 75,000 employees and drew 36.2 million visitors in 2021, according to the Themed Entertainment Association.

In a move political observers viewed as retaliation for Disney's view on the “Don’t Say Gay” measure, Florida lawmakers month passed the bill, which DeSantis signed into law, that authorizes the governor to appoint five supervisors to oversee traditional municipal services, such a fire protection, public utilities, waste collection and road maintenance in the region where Disney World operates. The quasi-government entity also has the authority to raise revenue to pay outstanding debt and cover the cost of services.

$1 to $2 Billion via the pockets of tax-payers to "own-the-libs"
.


These are the so-called "fruits-of-the-spirit"...
Unhinged malevolent delusions imposed in-order-to inflict untold sufferings.

The Nat-C agenda is the same as it ever was:
-Intimidation
-Incarceration
-Extermination

The beatings will continue till morale improves.

May reason rule where delusion dwells.




VOTE

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,074 posts)
53. DeathSantis' first bill would have had Florida taxpayers pick up $2 billion in debt
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 01:09 AM
Feb 2023

This bill will not affect operations at Walt Disney World


55. Just have your legislature declare you King of Florida, DeSadist.
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 10:50 AM
Feb 2023

Since that what he wants to do, why not cut out the middle men (legislature and courts) and get right to the coronation?

FBaggins

(28,646 posts)
69. Not directly... but "it depends"
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 10:39 AM
Mar 2023

The change has no immediate impact. The potential pain is all in how the new board’s decisions are different compared to what the Disney-controlled board would have decided.

To the extent that Disney worries about those potential changes… they may choose to tone down advocacy. It appears that they have already begun to do that, but it remains to be seen how much it will change.

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