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Lasher

(27,751 posts)
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 07:22 AM Mar 2023

Pence says 'history will hold Donald Trump accountable' for January 6th

Source: CNN

Former Vice President Mike Pence made his most blistering comments yet about former President Donald Trump’s role in the January 6th attack on the US Capitol during remarks Saturday evening at the annual Gridiron Club Dinner in Washington, DC.

Pence began his remarks at the dinner, which traditionally features politicians making jokes about notable Washington figures, with lighthearted comments about Trump, President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and several Republicans expected to run for president in 2024, including Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former UN Ambassador Nikki Haley.

He then took a serious tone, noting the attack on the Capitol was “one thing I haven’t joked about” and calling January 6th “a tragic day.”

Pence rebuked Trump for his role in the January 6, 2021 attack, saying he was “wrong” for claiming Pence had the authority to overturn the results of the 2020 election in his role presiding over Congress that day, saying “history will hold Donald Trump accountable.”

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/11/politics/mike-pence-gridiron-dinner/index.html

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Pence says 'history will hold Donald Trump accountable' for January 6th (Original Post) Lasher Mar 2023 OP
And the word "cuckold" has been forever replaced by... MiHale Mar 2023 #1
If Pence is right gab13by13 Mar 2023 #2
Hey that's great, Mikey, but I'd prefer the COURTS step up for accountability bucolic_frolic Mar 2023 #3
You Caught That Also modrepub Mar 2023 #10
Mike, you self righteous cardboard cutout.. agingdem Mar 2023 #4
But he's a republican elitist Achilleaze Mar 2023 #5
He said history will hold Trump accountable SomedayKindaLove Mar 2023 #7
If he testifies and tells the truth..the real truth agingdem Mar 2023 #15
God knows YOU didn't. And history will see to that as well. The Unmitigated Gall Mar 2023 #6
Really? Traildogbob Mar 2023 #12
That's because history happened, Hoosier Daddy. czarjak Mar 2023 #8
Pathetic coward AmBlue Mar 2023 #9
2 + years later? You owe all pathetic cowards an apology for associating them with Pence. Botany Mar 2023 #18
I don't disagree AmBlue Mar 2023 #28
Pence knew that Russia installed Trump in 2016 and made some mealy mouthed comment about, "the ... Botany Mar 2023 #33
2+ years later...and not in front of Congress, either but to save his own career. Such bravery. NullTuples Mar 2023 #36
Pence and his family are just grifting shits (see Pence gas stations Indianan clean up costs) and Botany Mar 2023 #38
History? Aussie105 Mar 2023 #11
Pence could help that along by testifying truthfully rurallib Mar 2023 #13
Well, well, well, what does he know that we don't? Getting on the right side of history. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #14
Yeah, well, History is gonna have to get in line. 2naSalit Mar 2023 #16
I believe Pence's Party is trying to ban history. n/t. NNadir Mar 2023 #17
Yes, Mike, and history is going to remember you as a quisling and an enabler of treason. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #19
And the enablers who didn't tell homeland security and the FBI... JT45242 Mar 2023 #20
History? Give me a fucking break! bluestarone Mar 2023 #21
Pence may have done the right thing on January 6th, but when it comes to history, he Baitball Blogger Mar 2023 #22
History may hold him accountable..... COL Mustard Mar 2023 #23
To Hell with history. Aristus Mar 2023 #24
Fuck Mike Pence. If he has his way, history will be drowned out in right wing noise. Martin68 Mar 2023 #25
Screw History LPBBEAR Mar 2023 #26
You were there, why didn't YOU unhold the law, and hold djt accountable? Why didn't you force SWBTATTReg Mar 2023 #27
At least he still seems to support teaching history... jvill Mar 2023 #29
Why not the federal court ? republianmushroom Mar 2023 #30
I want Trump to be accountable NOW! zanana1 Mar 2023 #31
In other words, let historians in the next century deal with it dalton99a Mar 2023 #32
17.67 months before the FBI's 60-day mute tradition kicks in (no comey here)... Justice matters. Mar 2023 #34
And, history will hold Pence accountable for being too chickenshit mzmolly Mar 2023 #35
Then why are you fighting the subpoena to testify about J6, Mike? Mr. Ected Mar 2023 #37
Best way to Rebl2 Mar 2023 #39
LOL. History doesn't hold anyone accountable. Never has. Never will. Solly Mack Mar 2023 #40
He says this NOW? And at Gridiron, of all places? DFW Mar 2023 #41
"That Pence spoke at all is a testament to how little humor the Republicans are capable of." LMAO!! MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #44
The bar used to be MUCH higher DFW Mar 2023 #45
I'm groaning aloud from the cringe that I feel.. It's no laughing matter to be cut off and peeled... MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #46
It all depends on who writes and approves the publication of the history books. Marcuse Mar 2023 #42
Those That Support the Same, Are the Same. They're the Same. MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #43
history might, republicans won't samsingh Mar 2023 #47

gab13by13

(21,712 posts)
2. If Pence is right
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 07:43 AM
Mar 2023

I will never get to see Trump held accountable, I'm 75 years old. Maybe my 9 year old grandson will see Trump held accountable?

bucolic_frolic

(43,731 posts)
3. Hey that's great, Mikey, but I'd prefer the COURTS step up for accountability
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 07:46 AM
Mar 2023

Guess Mikey's not going there!

modrepub

(3,516 posts)
10. You Caught That Also
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 09:17 AM
Mar 2023

History's judgement is not the same as Judicial judgement.

I'm still cynical about the courts ever holding TFG accountable for his actions. "Rich" old white men with political connections seem to take a different glide path in our court system. Maybe someday that will change, but....

agingdem

(7,899 posts)
4. Mike, you self righteous cardboard cutout..
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 07:52 AM
Mar 2023

Last edited Sun Mar 12, 2023, 08:32 AM - Edit history (1)

how about you honor the goddamned subpoena and testify instead claiming bullshit privilege you don’t have

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
5. But he's a republican elitist
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 08:00 AM
Mar 2023

Republican elitists think they are special. They do not respond to legal subpoenas, or otherwise respect American jurisprudence.

Repubs have abandoned honor, integrity, honesty, and loyalty to America. They have disgraced themselves.

Sad.

SomedayKindaLove

(557 posts)
7. He said history will hold Trump accountable
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 09:07 AM
Mar 2023

Not himself. Pence seems to to want to be on the invisible side of history. Unless this means he is ready to testify.

Traildogbob

(8,958 posts)
12. Really?
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 09:30 AM
Mar 2023

GQP are eliminating history in schools and the Tuckum’s of the party write their own version. How will that hold the fat boy accountable? I hope flies lay eggs in your skull, MAGAt Brain! (Not a good one like “Maggot Brain”, Funkadelic 1971. Helleva, song, amazing guitar)
The GQP “invertebrates” like Pence, Graham and McCarthy to name a few, are not even in our Class, Family, Genus and Species. They fit well out there with slugs, jellyfish, Amoebas and protozoans. Some of the least “evolved” of all species. They are freaking Devolving as we watch. It is amazing how they stand erect though. Next generation, they will need to move like amoebas streaming protoplasm to pull themselves along.
Let’s not forget “Sponges” in the subphylum of non vertebrate's. The GQP are serious sponges, sucking up ALL our tax revenue.

czarjak

(11,431 posts)
8. That's because history happened, Hoosier Daddy.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 09:07 AM
Mar 2023

We know what history will say. Justice now, would be nice.

AmBlue

(3,144 posts)
9. Pathetic coward
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 09:10 AM
Mar 2023

Still on his knees from all the boot licking.... thinks he is saying something brave. What a sad loser.

Botany

(70,754 posts)
18. 2 + years later? You owe all pathetic cowards an apology for associating them with Pence.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 09:56 AM
Mar 2023

Pence rebuked Trump for his role in the January 6, 2021 attack, saying he was “wrong.” What a bad ass
mother fucker it is not like Trump wanted Pence lynched so he could declare martial law, bring on his proud
boys/oath keeper goons who were waiting to attack our Nation's democracy, and stop our Constitutional
democracy from installing the legally elected POTUS.

AmBlue

(3,144 posts)
28. I don't disagree
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 12:52 PM
Mar 2023

There just aren't words quite strong enough to express the disgust I feel for Pence and his response to J6 and what happened that day. Further down this thread I saw "cardboard cut-out" and "limp dick"... those probably come closer.

Botany

(70,754 posts)
33. Pence knew that Russia installed Trump in 2016 and made some mealy mouthed comment about, "the ...
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 02:49 PM
Mar 2023

... other side will try to use the stories about Russia and the election to question the President's win
as not being legitimate."

Botany

(70,754 posts)
38. Pence and his family are just grifting shits (see Pence gas stations Indianan clean up costs) and
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 03:03 PM
Mar 2023

he was picked by Putin to be V.P. too.

Mike Pence Could Be the Next President and He Was Handpicked by Paul Manafort
https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-was-handpicked-paul-manafort-696412

2naSalit

(87,289 posts)
16. Yeah, well, History is gonna have to get in line.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 09:47 AM
Mar 2023

Fuck you, mike pants. Why don't you go tell it to that Grand Jury?

JT45242

(2,364 posts)
20. And the enablers who didn't tell homeland security and the FBI...
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 10:17 AM
Mar 2023

Instead of talking to Dan Quayle, he should have called the FBI and homeland security.

When he knew TFG was in cahoots with the Russian oligarchs as conduits to Putin (remember who picked him for VP), he could have put country first. Hell he could have put his career first, turn on tRump and become president.

He let all of it happen. Kids in cages. Rushed execution of potentially innocent people...etc

bluestarone

(17,234 posts)
21. History? Give me a fucking break!
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 10:22 AM
Mar 2023

It's like you standing by a river watching someone drown. No help from you. (history will hold accountable!) GO AWAY you lowlife fucker!

Baitball Blogger

(46,864 posts)
22. Pence may have done the right thing on January 6th, but when it comes to history, he
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 10:42 AM
Mar 2023

floundered on everything that happened afterward. History is written by the winners. And we are still in a battle for our American freedom and liberty. Pence could have helped protect history by providing testimony that would surely give the last chapter a proper ending.

Martin68

(23,169 posts)
25. Fuck Mike Pence. If he has his way, history will be drowned out in right wing noise.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 11:32 AM
Mar 2023

His political ambitions have Trumped his sense of morality.

SWBTATTReg

(22,393 posts)
27. You were there, why didn't YOU unhold the law, and hold djt accountable? Why didn't you force
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 12:52 PM
Mar 2023

tRUMP out of office, and go grab some cabinet members and force tRUMP out of office when 1/6 happened...you were constitutionally able to remove tRUMP and DIDN'T.

Justice matters.

(6,973 posts)
34. 17.67 months before the FBI's 60-day mute tradition kicks in (no comey here)...
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 02:51 PM
Mar 2023

That traitor's beloved hair furhair is not even indicted yet 24.33 months after his attempted coup d'etat and stealing of TS/CSI documents.

National Security is waiting while everyone is at risk (probably since January 2017)... still not even just indicted yet!

And that despicable religious weasel will be working with the Fascists to erase History if his beloved hair furher is not in prison for the rest of his criminal life or locked in a mental institution a day before the 00.00 countdown mark if he wins the Fascists nomination.

Mr. Ected

(9,676 posts)
37. Then why are you fighting the subpoena to testify about J6, Mike?
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 02:55 PM
Mar 2023

Seems the best way to hold Trump accountable is for a court of law to have all the facts and you're not just a witness, you were a participant. Republicans say things but their behavior tells otherwise.

Solly Mack

(90,842 posts)
40. LOL. History doesn't hold anyone accountable. Never has. Never will.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 06:51 PM
Mar 2023

History, at its best, tells the truth about events. The whole truth. Not just names and dates, but the good, the bad, and the very ugly. But it does not offer accountability - it offers an accounting of events. Not the same at all.

Sure, one can read history and look back at the actions of people, either directly or funneled down through policies, and deem those actions wrong - but that's not holding anyone accountable.

History, in America, has never been at its very best.

It has never told the complete truth. People have had to fight to get the full truth, the actual facts told, and they have faced pushback every step of the way. Look at what is happening now and look at your own past experience with being taught history.

If you have ever caught yourself asking. "Why wasn't that taught in school?" (And you know you have), then you already know the history you were taught was not history at all - it was a decided upon narrative that did not reflect the actual history of a time or an event.

And an incomplete history that leaves out marginalized people, and downplays atrocities, is an incomplete history that has been selectively curated to push a certain narrative.

Nothing about that says accountability.


DFW

(54,680 posts)
41. He says this NOW? And at Gridiron, of all places?
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 10:23 PM
Mar 2023

My dad was President of Gridiron during Clinton’s presidency. I went to the big March dinner and show a couple of times, since he was a member for over 20 years.

Gridiron, besides being off the record (though stuff inevitably leaks out every year), is an event where levity and satire are expected from the highest levels. “Serious” is neither expected nor desired. That Pence spoke at all is a testament to how little humor the Republicans are capable of.

MayReasonRule

(1,463 posts)
44. "That Pence spoke at all is a testament to how little humor the Republicans are capable of." LMAO!!
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 10:34 AM
Mar 2023

Well said!



DFW

(54,680 posts)
45. The bar used to be MUCH higher
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 10:57 AM
Mar 2023

At Gridiron, each party selects a speaker to give a funny speech. Then maybe the Vice-President speaks, and the final speaker in the President of the United States tops off the speeches. If you're good, you're good. If you're not, you bomb.

At my first Gridiron, Jimmy Carter had just taken office a couple of months earlier (March, 1977). Fritz Mondale spoke before Carter, and made fun of the fact that Carter, after his being sworn in, walked back to the White House to show he was a president of the people. Mondale turned it around to say that he, Mondale, was the real power in the White House. This was proven by the fact that he rode to the White House in a heated, chauffeur-driven limousine, while poor Jimmy Carter was forced to walk. This brought the house down, as did Carter's opening statement mentioning the remarks of the "acting Vice-President."

When I was there last, the Democratic speaker was House minority leader Richard Gephardt. He was just NOT funny, and bombed miserably. The Republican speaker was Bill Bennett, who, though a religious and ideological nut case, was nonetheless one of the funniest speakers in Washington with a great sense of humor. But the Clintons were the absolute stars of the night. Bill with his updated, downsized new Contract With America, and Hillary, who, traveling in Pakistan at the time, left her "Hillary Gump" video, which had everyone, including Gingrich, convulsed with laughter.

Mike Pence in a setting like that? That's like inviting the Pope to a circumcision.

MayReasonRule

(1,463 posts)
46. I'm groaning aloud from the cringe that I feel.. It's no laughing matter to be cut off and peeled...
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 11:47 AM
Mar 2023

A penis ought not be, an exception for rules, that prohibit removal of parts that are "you".

Yet still to this day, this butchery proceeds, with dicks in the lips of those making them bleed.
It's licensed and practiced all over the world, with blessings from "YAHWEH", the "God" that they dread!

No reasonable person would ever assert that dicks are for cutting right after a birth.
The pain it inflicts on the child, soon a man, is literally irreparable, not ever, in hand.

The penis's frenulum roughly contains, 4000 nerve endings, for pleasure and pain.
Removing the foreskin that lubes and protects, is bereft of reason, it punishes sex.

Dismembering dicks of a lad as a babe, is crime that I'm angry 'bout still to this day.

May reason rule.

Marcuse

(7,594 posts)
42. It all depends on who writes and approves the publication of the history books.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 11:41 PM
Mar 2023
Pence says 'history will hold Donald Trump accountable' for January 6th

MayReasonRule

(1,463 posts)
43. Those That Support the Same, Are the Same. They're the Same.
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 10:20 AM
Mar 2023

Anyone that supports the GOP is complicit in it's ongoing crimes against humanity.

Pence is a Nat-C through and through.

Germany abolished the National Socialist Party.

The GOP is America's National Socialist Party.

Abolish the GOP!

May reason rule!

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