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groundloop

(11,519 posts)
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 10:28 AM Mar 2023

Student who was patted down each day allegedly shoots 2 staffers at Denver high school

Source: ABC News

A student who was under a "certain agreement to be patted down each day" at school allegedly shot and wounded two school administrators at East High School in Denver, authorities said.

The suspect, Austin Lyle, 17, fled the school on Wednesday morning after the shooting, Denver police said. His body was later discovered, officials said.

Police searching for the suspect had located his car in Park County, which is located southwest of Denver," officials said Wednesday evening. A male body was found near the vehicle, Park County Sheriff Tom McGraw later said during a press conference. The scene was being processed and the coroner was en route to the scene, McGraw said.

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The suspected shooter was required to be searched at the beginning of each school day, officials said. He allegedly shot the school administrators as they patted him down Wednesday morning in the school's office area, which officials said is away from other students and staff.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-reported-denver-high-school-2-adults-hospitalized/story?id=98045110

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Student who was patted down each day allegedly shoots 2 staffers at Denver high school (Original Post) groundloop Mar 2023 OP
That kid should've NEVER been allowed in school. oldsoftie Mar 2023 #1
Seriously. intheflow Mar 2023 #13
I totally agree with you ... PBC_Democrat Mar 2023 #15
The guy is dead. Archae Mar 2023 #2
Terrible. This is heartbreaking and almost completely preventable. AllyCat Mar 2023 #21
So is it the guns or not. twodogsbarking Mar 2023 #3
It's woke, or mental illness, or single moms, or a godless liberal society IronLionZion Mar 2023 #8
I am doomed. twodogsbarking Mar 2023 #17
If they felt he was such a threat that he needed to be patted down each day JI7 Mar 2023 #4
Why was he subject to frisking at Denver High School? DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #7
He'd probably have shot the cop Orrex Mar 2023 #12
Yea, you're probably right....... DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #22
We have officially reached "off the rail". WinstonSmith4740 Mar 2023 #5
He should had been suspended or expelled. LiberalFighter Mar 2023 #6
The parents should have been required to remove all guns from the home before this kid Lonestarblue Mar 2023 #9
the black market? maxsolomon Mar 2023 #11
Not hard to make guns at home now madville Mar 2023 #14
odds are that's not how a troubled 17-year old acquired his handgun. maxsolomon Mar 2023 #16
You never know madville Mar 2023 #20
Odds are slim maxsolomon Mar 2023 #24
When he got kicked out of Cherry Creek DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #23
You know you're going to be searched every day, and yet you go to the search maxsolomon Mar 2023 #10
He knew he was going to use the gun that day. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #19
WTAF! LymphocyteLover Mar 2023 #18

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
1. That kid should've NEVER been allowed in school.
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 10:32 AM
Mar 2023

If you have to search someone EVERY DAY they dont need to be there.

intheflow

(28,472 posts)
13. Seriously.
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:31 PM
Mar 2023

I know the state has an obligation to provide education to all children, but surely something else could have been done in relation to this kid's previous behavior. Absolutely heartbreaking, all around.

PBC_Democrat

(401 posts)
15. I totally agree with you ...
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:41 PM
Mar 2023

but I'm also concerned that we are creating throw-away kids.
I'm not sure there we draw the line between who can be saved and who can't.

I'd like to know where he got the gun

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
21. Terrible. This is heartbreaking and almost completely preventable.
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 02:57 PM
Mar 2023

More guns equal more dead people.

Our country is too stupid to have guns.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
8. It's woke, or mental illness, or single moms, or a godless liberal society
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:54 AM
Mar 2023

but never the guns. Guns don't kill people. Woke kills people.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
4. If they felt he was such a threat that he needed to be patted down each day
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:21 AM
Mar 2023

then it seems like he shouldn't have been allowed there and should have been placed somewhere else to deal with his issues.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
7. Why was he subject to frisking at Denver High School?
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:51 AM
Mar 2023

He previously attended an upper-crust High School in Arapahoe County. Evidently they had caught him with a fire arm, and expelled him.
Somehow, he ended up at a Denver High School who admitted him, subject to being frisked every day.

My opinion is, that his possession of a firearm at the age of 17 should have qualified him for a Reform school for lack of more up to date term. Basically a jail for those under 18, which has schooling.

Two years ago, there was an armed Denver police officer in ten of the roughest high schools in Denver. The DPS school board voted unanimously to remove them. The superintendent of the DPS, two years ago, pleaded to put them back in these ten schools for the students safety. The Denver Public School system board of directors refused his wishes.

Yesterday, the Superintendent of the DPS ordered An armed Denver Police officer, in uniform, be assigned to those ten schools, regardless of the Board's decision that had them removed, and Two officers assigned to East High School due to this incident, and many other incidents, (shooting) at this school recently.

Hell, when I was 17, and enrolled in a Denver High School, our main concern was what the school cafeteria was serving for lunch.
And I only recall, in my entire schooling in the DPS, one rogue shooting.

And where does a 17 YO kid get the money to drive around in a new Volvo, and to purchase an expensive hand gun. Parents?

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
5. We have officially reached "off the rail".
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:23 AM
Mar 2023

I retired a couple of years ago, but got bored and went back to do a long-term sub gig at the Jr. high that fed into the high school where I taught.. They're both Title 1, and most of the kids have not grown up in any kind of stability.

But as tough as those high school kids were, these kids scare me more. Obviously, rational thought is not their long suit. The biggest issue for me is the fact that our school board has pretty much tied our hands when it comes to discipline in the classroom. They have to have 5 "minor" incidents before we can really do anything. (BTW, a kid flipping me off in class was deemed "minor".) We have posters all over school and in our classrooms about causes for expulsion, and having a weapon on campus is #1 on the list. And yet, we found a knife on a kid, and the result was a "restorative justice council" and parental conference. He's still at school.

Unfortunately, I'm willing to bet our school board is pretty much the same as most others. People who haven't been in a classroom for 20 years (or in some cases, ever...we actually had one who was a dropout) make decisions for the people who are.

And people wonder why teachers are leaving the profession in droves.

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
9. The parents should have been required to remove all guns from the home before this kid
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:11 PM
Mar 2023

was allowed back in school. And he should have been in therapy. A 17 year old can’t legally buy a gun, so who bought it for him?

madville

(7,410 posts)
14. Not hard to make guns at home now
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:33 PM
Mar 2023

With 3D printing. A decent printer is only $300-400 and the CAD files are all free to download online. For a Glock model, once the gun frame is printed, just have to fit a few metal parts to make it functional. High capacity magazines are easily printed too, just need to buy the metal spring or make one.

madville

(7,410 posts)
20. You never know
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 02:15 PM
Mar 2023

When I was a teenager we were making faking IDs, homebrewing beer and wine, growing marijuana in the swamp, etc. We were pretty industrious about getting what we wanted, especially if it was somewhat illegal or forbidden.

3D printing is pretty cool, it is exploding as a hobby in many areas (not just guns) and availability, options and prices just get better everyday.

Could have been manufactured from an 80% kit, stolen from a parent or a car, bought illegally, many possibilities.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
23. When he got kicked out of Cherry Creek
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 12:36 AM
Mar 2023

he had a printed "ghost" gun. No info yet on the gun he used at East High......

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