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groundloop

(11,518 posts)
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:14 AM Mar 2023

New Russian campaign tries to entice men to fight in Ukraine

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: ABC News

Advertisements promise cash bonuses and enticing benefits. Recruiters are making cold calls to eligible men. Enlistment offices are working with universities and social service agencies to lure students and the unemployed.

A new campaign is underway this spring across Russia, seeking recruits to replenish its troops for the war in Ukraine.

As fighting grinds on in Ukrainian battlegrounds like Bakhmut and both sides prepare for counteroffensives that could cost even more lives, the Kremlin's war machine badly needs new recruits.

A mobilization in September of 300,000 reservists — billed as a “partial” call-up — sent panic throughout the country, since most men under 65 are formally part of the reserve. Tens of thousands fled Russia rather than report to recruiting stations.


Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/new-russian-campaign-entice-men-fight-ukraine-98132927

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New Russian campaign tries to entice men to fight in Ukraine (Original Post) groundloop Mar 2023 OP
Too late Roy Rolling Mar 2023 #1
"Always wanted to drive the same tank your grandfather did in 1948?... EX500rider Mar 2023 #2
Absolutely PERFECT!!!! oldsoftie Mar 2023 #12
Included in the enticement package is a 50 percent off coupon for funeral services yaesu Mar 2023 #3
Who needs cash bonuses when you have conscription? Shermann Mar 2023 #4
Is it being aired on Fox and friends? Traildogbob Mar 2023 #5
I'll bet the fox-watching magats will not want to volunteer to serve in the trump-putin army erronis Mar 2023 #32
anyone who doesnt realize we are helping to grind the russian military to a pulp mopinko Mar 2023 #6
Newsweek: Bakhmut Life Expectancy Near Four Hours On Frontlines, Fighter Warns Botany Mar 2023 #7
Newsweak Is Full Of Shit FredGarvin Mar 2023 #9
And that is what the article says Botany Mar 2023 #10
And that article is a month old. Russia has failed to advance since then. oldsoftie Mar 2023 #13
The Russians have been loosing something like 800 KIA a day .... that had somedays of 1,200 kia Botany Mar 2023 #23
I'm really hoping for Mariupol too. I wouldnt rush Crimea though. oldsoftie Mar 2023 #27
They (Ukrainian forces) need to secure the dam on the Dnipro River to stop the Russians from ... Botany Mar 2023 #33
They tried this late last summer with billboards promising cash..it didn't work then either PortTack Mar 2023 #8
Someone said that much of, if not most of Russia's population is apathetic or disinterested tornado34jh Mar 2023 #11
Still a communist country in almost every way except "officially". oldsoftie Mar 2023 #15
Ironic tornado34jh Mar 2023 #18
They're playing directly to the Trump base. To divide the US. oldsoftie Mar 2023 #26
Not just Trump tornado34jh Mar 2023 #34
Good point; all cut from the same cloth. Putin is trying to "save" ALL of us. oldsoftie Mar 2023 #36
True tornado34jh Mar 2023 #38
What is this, Stalin all over again? IronLionZion Mar 2023 #14
Yes. Old Soviet tactics since day one. Now with old Soviet weapons too! oldsoftie Mar 2023 #16
Oh, this is my favorite Warpy Mar 2023 #17
That's disgusting IronLionZion Mar 2023 #19
You think that's bad? This is their "Tje west will freeze and starve" ad Warpy Mar 2023 #28
Yeah, THAT sure didnt pan out like they thought, did it? oldsoftie Mar 2023 #35
I didn't think there were any left. ananda Mar 2023 #20
Is it possible blue-wave Mar 2023 #21
As Putin harms future Russian growth and economy. keithbvadu2 Mar 2023 #22
I had read that High School and college students graduating could not get their diploma without LiberalArkie Mar 2023 #24
Russian town offers groceries for enlistment Playingmantis Mar 2023 #25
Plus all the Stoli they can drink. Marcuse Mar 2023 #29
Stolichnaya is ironically solidly on the side of NATO and anti-Putin IronLionZion Mar 2023 #30
So the poor bastards don't even get the good stuff. Marcuse Mar 2023 #37
Lotsa luck Pooty Poot Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2023 #31
Signing up to fight against Ukraine at this point is a death sentence. They'll be Martin68 Mar 2023 #39
After a review by forum hosts, locking........ Omaha Steve Mar 2023 #40

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
1. Too late
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:24 AM
Mar 2023

Ukraine thought of it first.



EX500rider

(10,842 posts)
2. "Always wanted to drive the same tank your grandfather did in 1948?...
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:31 AM
Mar 2023

....Now you can!"

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
12. Absolutely PERFECT!!!!
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:12 PM
Mar 2023

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
3. Included in the enticement package is a 50 percent off coupon for funeral services
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:32 AM
Mar 2023
or not

Shermann

(7,413 posts)
4. Who needs cash bonuses when you have conscription?
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:32 AM
Mar 2023

Apparently, any men under the age of 65 are fair game.

Traildogbob

(8,731 posts)
5. Is it being aired on Fox and friends?
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:34 AM
Mar 2023

Friends being traitorous, illiterate, MAGA, proPooti, Tuckums fan boys.
Tuckums will lead em into battle, like trump did J6, with a Stallone body, assault rifle and strapped with ammo belts across his powerful chest. USA USA USA.
With a bow tie and that idiotic laugh as a charging battle cry.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
32. I'll bet the fox-watching magats will not want to volunteer to serve in the trump-putin army
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 04:20 PM
Mar 2023

But then, neither would trump, putin, carlson, murdoch, thiel, koch, (r)epuglicons, libertarians put themselves anywhere near the front lines. Much nicer to stay home and make idiot noises.

mopinko

(70,092 posts)
6. anyone who doesnt realize we are helping to grind the russian military to a pulp
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:45 AM
Mar 2023

needs to stfu.
the last figure i heard was that we have expended 5% of our military hardware. hardware built to fight russia, for the most part.

they’ll be crippled for a generation, at least, by the time this is over.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
7. Newsweek: Bakhmut Life Expectancy Near Four Hours On Frontlines, Fighter Warns
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:48 AM
Mar 2023

"It's been pretty bad on the ground," he said. "A lot of casualties. The life expectancy is around four hours on the frontline."

https://www.newsweek.com/bakhmut-life-expectancy-near-four-hours-frontlines-ukraine-russia-1782496

FredGarvin

(477 posts)
9. Newsweak Is Full Of Shit
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:53 AM
Mar 2023

Garbage "news"

The Russians are getting massacred in their attempts to take the town.

The 4 hours he is referring to are Russian conscripts, not Ukrainian defenders.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
10. And that is what the article says
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:57 AM
Mar 2023

n/t

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
13. And that article is a month old. Russia has failed to advance since then.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:17 PM
Mar 2023

Even though we were told more than once that Bakhmut had fallen.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
23. The Russians have been loosing something like 800 KIA a day .... that had somedays of 1,200 kia
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 01:01 PM
Mar 2023

this is not like WW II were the Soviets could mass together thousands of men and vehicles
and roll over the Germans in human waves because whenever they do that not the Ukrainians
have artillery that can drop rounds dead nuts onto them and the last time the Russians tried
to use their tanks all but 2 of them were taken out .... mostly by javelins.

Very shortly w/outside material support the Ukrainian forces and outside volunteers are going
to wipe the Russian ground troops out of Ukraine and that most likely includes Crimea too.
Look to see the U.A. forces to push the 60 miles south and take Mariupol back which will split
the Russian forces. (my guess)

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
27. I'm really hoping for Mariupol too. I wouldnt rush Crimea though.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 02:18 PM
Mar 2023

Botany

(70,501 posts)
33. They (Ukrainian forces) need to secure the dam on the Dnipro River to stop the Russians from ...
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 04:25 PM
Mar 2023

... draining the water out of the reservoir up stream from Kherson.

Hopefully some members or family members or just plain Russians take Vlad out of the
equation ASAP.

PortTack

(32,762 posts)
8. They tried this late last summer with billboards promising cash..it didn't work then either
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:52 AM
Mar 2023

tornado34jh

(920 posts)
11. Someone said that much of, if not most of Russia's population is apathetic or disinterested
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:02 PM
Mar 2023

In a country where there really is little chance they will be anywhere near what the oligarchs have, much less move up the financial ladder, I can see why there is no incentive in fighting this war. Russia's scientists, engineers, teachers, etc. are trying to emigrate from Russia. Russia isn't improving itself. But again, when all you have heard or seen through most of your life is propaganda from the Kremlin, I think it is telling. I don't remember which video it is, but this guy on Youtube, Vlad Vexler, goes into pretty good detail as to what the mindset is over there.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
15. Still a communist country in almost every way except "officially".
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:18 PM
Mar 2023

And boy there are folks here who will argue that point into the ground.

tornado34jh

(920 posts)
18. Ironic
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:28 PM
Mar 2023

They have been touting traditional Christian family values and illiberalism and all that. Most Russians follow the Russian Orthodox Church. It is also ironic that they would call the West godless if they truly were communist.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
26. They're playing directly to the Trump base. To divide the US.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 02:15 PM
Mar 2023

Look at what they talk about; godless, woke, trans, emasculating men, etc. They're aiming directly for that audience.

tornado34jh

(920 posts)
34. Not just Trump
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 04:27 PM
Mar 2023

Orban, Bolsonaro, those types of autocrats. If I had a dollar for every time those idiots said those topics you mention over from 2008 up to now, I would probably eventually be on Forbes magazine in a few years since they talk about these topics so much, sarcasm intended.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
36. Good point; all cut from the same cloth. Putin is trying to "save" ALL of us.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 04:31 PM
Mar 2023

tornado34jh

(920 posts)
38. True
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 05:31 PM
Mar 2023

To be honest, it almost is like a religious cult. You have this person/group who thinks he is out there "to save" others.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
14. What is this, Stalin all over again?
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:18 PM
Mar 2023

They'll just throw people into the slaughterhouse until they run out of people?

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
16. Yes. Old Soviet tactics since day one. Now with old Soviet weapons too!
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:20 PM
Mar 2023

Same as what China did, North Korea, etc.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
17. Oh, this is my favorite
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:26 PM
Mar 2023

Grandson goes off to get butchered in order that Grandpa can keep his shitty Lada.



Heart warming stuff, isn't it?

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
19. That's disgusting
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:33 PM
Mar 2023

At least the American military ads will appeal to patriotism, money for college, future career opportunities, etc. not to save a shitty old car. Not sure Grandpa will get much money when the kid dies anyway.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
28. You think that's bad? This is their "Tje west will freeze and starve" ad
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 02:33 PM
Mar 2023


And people all over Russia bought it!

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
35. Yeah, THAT sure didnt pan out like they thought, did it?
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 04:28 PM
Mar 2023

And this coming winter the EU will be even better prepared for NOT using Putins gas & oil.

ananda

(28,859 posts)
20. I didn't think there were any left.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:35 PM
Mar 2023

Wellwellwell

blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
21. Is it possible
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:45 PM
Mar 2023

the majority of Russians have concluded the war Putin started with his invasion of Ukraine in 2014 is wrong? And there are too many body bags being sent home.

In other news, Russian towns experiencing blasts hundreds of miles from the Ukrainian border:

Blast in Russian town caused by Ukrainian drone, three hurt, TASS reports

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/blast-causes-crater-centre-russian-town-two-hurt-tass-2023-03-26/


Slava Ukraini!!! Heroyam Slava!!! Slava NaViki!!!

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
22. As Putin harms future Russian growth and economy.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:47 PM
Mar 2023

Russia faces shrinking middle class, rising inequality, study finds

https://www.democraticunderground.com/113336735

================================

As many of the up-and-coming middle class escape from Russia.

Or get drafted with not-so-good chances of survival.

Leaving a shortage of the ordinary working class men.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017815477

How do Russians avoid the war and how is life in hiding or abroad? - DW News

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
24. I had read that High School and college students graduating could not get their diploma without
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 01:18 PM
Mar 2023

signing a contract at the recruitment offices.

Playingmantis

(138 posts)
25. Russian town offers groceries for enlistment
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 01:41 PM
Mar 2023

The families of some Russian soldiers mobilized in Ukraine have been offered a care package by their city's mayor: a free bag of vegetables.

BBC journalist Francis Scarr posted a translated clip from Russian TV to Twitter on Monday. In the clip, Mayor Evgeny Grigoriev, an official in the Siberian city of Yakutsk, said the families of mobilized residents could proceed to collect a "one-off food package" this month.

Grigoriev said the package would contain fresh vegetables, including "cabbage, potato, carrot, beetroot, and onion."

https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-mayor-offers-families-military-conscripts-bag-vegetables-2022-10


Marcuse

(7,479 posts)
29. Plus all the Stoli they can drink.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 02:43 PM
Mar 2023

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
30. Stolichnaya is ironically solidly on the side of NATO and anti-Putin
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 02:45 PM
Mar 2023

Putin threw them out of Russia

Marcuse

(7,479 posts)
37. So the poor bastards don't even get the good stuff.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 04:55 PM
Mar 2023

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
31. Lotsa luck Pooty Poot
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 02:58 PM
Mar 2023

Martin68

(22,794 posts)
39. Signing up to fight against Ukraine at this point is a death sentence. They'll be
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 05:31 PM
Mar 2023

thrown into the front lines without adequate food, weapons or armor. They'll be ordered to undertake a frontal assault on a well-fortified position to soften it up for Wagner troops.

Omaha Steve

(99,620 posts)
40. After a review by forum hosts, locking........
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 09:51 PM
Mar 2023

Feature story, not LBN.

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