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LetMyPeopleVote

(174,549 posts)
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 11:02 AM Apr 2023

New bill would require Supreme Court to create a code of conduct amid recent controversies

Last edited Wed Apr 26, 2023, 12:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: ABC

Two Senate lawmakers have unveiled bipartisan legislation to require the Supreme Court create a code of conduct amid recent controversies surrounding Justice Clarence Thomas.

The high court is the only branch of government that operates without a code of conduct. Senators Angus King, I-Maine, and Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, on Wednesday introduced a bill to change that.

"A healthy democracy requires trust: trust in systems, trust in institutions, and trust in leaders. Americans deserve to have confidence that every part of their government -- especially the highest court in the land -- is acting in an ethical manner," King said in a statement.

Murkowski, too, said it's "critical the public has full faith that their institutions are functioning, including the judicial branch."

The legislation would force the court to create a code of conduct, post it publicly online and appoint an individual tasked with handling any complaints of potential violations.



Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/new-bill-require-supreme-court-create-code-conduct/story?id=98870332




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New bill would require Supreme Court to create a code of conduct amid recent controversies (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 OP
THIS could get interesting. bluestarone Apr 2023 #1
Good. BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #2
New Judicial Ethics bills proposed LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #3
They could simply find it unconstitutional Polybius Apr 2023 #4
Not so sure on that melm00se Apr 2023 #8
Let's just say it's challenged Polybius Apr 2023 #17
Impeachment is an option melm00se Apr 2023 #20
Yeah, but removal takes 67 votes in the Senate Polybius Apr 2023 #22
Federal institutions melm00se Apr 2023 #23
Do I read this correctly? THe Supreme Court budget for FY24 is 9.1 Billion? Paper Roses Apr 2023 #18
Technically it is the Judiciary budget melm00se Apr 2023 #19
The SC can overturn the law or allow it and then ignore it. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #5
+1 peppertree Apr 2023 #6
Yep. The entire GOP power structure is only governed by the honor system. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #10
Why would congress trust SCOTUS to create a code of conduct rurallib Apr 2023 #7
meaning what if it is not followed ? republianmushroom Apr 2023 #9
Not enough Sanity Claws Apr 2023 #11
does it have any teeth though? What's the punishment for breaking the code? LymphocyteLover Apr 2023 #12
Congress can REQUIRE that SCOTUS create a code of conduct ... Novara Apr 2023 #13
There is NOTHING in the Constitution that says 3825-87867 Apr 2023 #14
Exactly right - it's legislation written by Congress, approved by the Potus FakeNoose Apr 2023 #21
Good. It's a good start. Hekate Apr 2023 #15
Meaningless with no teeth bucolic_frolic Apr 2023 #16
You did that, FW Unethical SC Judges. Cha Apr 2023 #24
Won't pass the House The Grand Illuminist Apr 2023 #25

BumRushDaShow

(165,352 posts)
2. Good.
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 11:05 AM
Apr 2023

Let's hope they can pick up 10 GOP Senators for it. Not sure how it will fare in the loony House though.

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,549 posts)
3. New Judicial Ethics bills proposed
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 11:05 AM
Apr 2023


BREAKING: The US Senate has just unveiled a BIPARTISAN bill, that if signed into law would require the US Supreme Court to create and implement a new code of conduct for all justices.

Details of the 'Supreme Court Code of Conduct Act':

- The bill proposes that the Supreme Court implement a code of conduct within a year of its enactment and publish it on the Court's website

- It mandates the Court to designate a person to handle complaints regarding violations of the new code and give the Court the authority to conduct investigations to determine if any justice or staff member has violated federal laws or codes of conduct affecting the administration of justice.

- The legislation allows the Court to draft its code of conduct to protect the separation of powers between the legislative and judicial branches.

- The bill sponsors claim that the Supreme Court's declining approval ratings and public concerns about its impartiality have necessitated the legislation. The proposed Act aims to address these concerns by ensuring the Court's transparency, independence, and fairness in upholding the law.

There is no reason that I can think of why this bill should not immediately be voted in and signed into law!

melm00se

(5,141 posts)
8. Not so sure on that
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 11:42 AM
Apr 2023

Congress has the ability to establish the number of justices, the scope and jurisdiction of the Court. Additionally, there is precedent for judicial codes of ethics at the federal level. Additionally, Congress could cut off the Court's funding (in FY24 their budget request is $9.1 billion) and there is zero that the Court could do (but that is the nuclear option).

melm00se

(5,141 posts)
23. Federal institutions
Thu Apr 27, 2023, 01:22 PM
Apr 2023

tend to get annoyed when they are ignored and if the refuses to develop a code of ethics and then gives Congress the big finger when they pass one, you will probably see a bipartisan action and an impeachment, trial and removal.

All 3 branches, however, realize the threat of an open conflict between the 3 and cooler heads would more than likely prevail and an agreement would be reached.

Of course, the People could flex their ultimate power, give all 3 branches the big finger and ratify an Amendment that settles the issue quite permanently.

Paper Roses

(7,613 posts)
18. Do I read this correctly? THe Supreme Court budget for FY24 is 9.1 Billion?
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 02:06 PM
Apr 2023

Someone please tell me why this is correct, justified and why?

Irish_Dem

(79,495 posts)
10. Yep. The entire GOP power structure is only governed by the honor system.
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 11:54 AM
Apr 2023

And they have no honor, so here we are.
Corruption city.

rurallib

(64,531 posts)
7. Why would congress trust SCOTUS to create a code of conduct
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 11:40 AM
Apr 2023

without some kind of guidelines? What would be the penalties for violation?

republianmushroom

(22,122 posts)
9. meaning what if it is not followed ?
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 11:50 AM
Apr 2023

The legislation would force the court to create a code of conduct, post it publicly online and appoint an individual tasked with handling any complaints of potential violations.
However, it doesn't lay out what those rules should be -- instead giving the court the power to enact its own guidelines.

More feel good ??

Sanity Claws

(22,332 posts)
11. Not enough
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 12:02 PM
Apr 2023

I wouldn't trust them to create the code of conduct or to enforce it if adopted. What about taking the code of conduct or laws already applicable to other federal judges and enact it as law? Hard to complain if it already applies to other judges. But how to enforce?

Novara

(6,115 posts)
13. Congress can REQUIRE that SCOTUS create a code of conduct ...
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 12:21 PM
Apr 2023

... but they can't write the rules themselves. And I don't know if there's any mechanism if the law passes but the SCOTUS refuses to do so.

But I can see it now: the Rs will all vote against it.

3825-87867

(1,790 posts)
14. There is NOTHING in the Constitution that says
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 12:33 PM
Apr 2023

we can't make new laws or rules, requirements or punishments to or for any or all justices of the SCOTUS even if they serve for life.

I'm sure a few new legal ideas, punishments, penalties, etc. pertaining to their so-called exclusivity can be imagined. Maybe some that will make future SCOTUS'uns think twice about becoming one.

Reinterpret that, Alito!

FakeNoose

(40,060 posts)
21. Exactly right - it's legislation written by Congress, approved by the Potus
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 04:57 PM
Apr 2023

Why on earth would SCOTUS be allowed to write their "ethics" rules? They've already shown their deficiency in the ethics department. There needs to be a balance of power, not one group writing their own rules.

bucolic_frolic

(53,877 posts)
16. Meaningless with no teeth
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 12:59 PM
Apr 2023

These clowns need rules, oversight, fines, term limits. We need to break up the stack-the-court cabals by increasing throughput in a bipartisan manner.

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