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riversedge

(80,815 posts)
Tue May 23, 2023, 08:20 AM May 2023

Donald Trump to appear by video as judge reinforces ban on attacking witnesses

Source: AP




By MICHAEL R. SISAK today



NEW YORK (AP) — The judge in Donald Trump’s criminal case is holding a hybrid hearing Tuesday to make doubly sure the former president is aware of new rules barring him from using evidence to attack witnesses.

Trump won’t have to show up to court for the afternoon hearing at a Manhattan courthouse, avoiding the mammoth security and logistical challenges that accompanied his arraignment last month.

Instead, the Republican will be connected by video conference, with his face beamed onto courtroom TV monitors. His lawyers and prosecutors must still appear in person.

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Trump is allowed to speak publicly about the case, but he risks being held in contempt if he uses evidence turned over by prosecutors in the pretrial discovery process to target witnesses or others involved in the case.


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Merchan, noting Trump’s “special” status as a former president and current candidate, has made clear that the protective order shouldn’t be construed as a gag order and that Trump has a right to publicly defend himself...............................

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-criminal-case-manhattan-cc2dbf565678eeaf8246a96b0fd1f461?utm_source=RecoReel&utm_medium=articlePage&utm_id=Taboola








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FILE - Former President Donald Trump sits at the defense table with his legal team in a Manhattan court, Tuesday, April 4, 2023, in New York. The judge in Donald Trump's criminal case is holding a hybrid hearing Tuesday to make doubly sure the former president is aware of new rules barring him from using evidence to attack witnesses. Trump is allowed to speak publicly about the case, but he risks being held in contempt if he uses evidence turned over by prosecutors in the pretrial discovery process to target witnesses or others involved in the case. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig, Pool)
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Donald Trump to appear by video as judge reinforces ban on attacking witnesses (Original Post) riversedge May 2023 OP
Equal justice under the law, Beachnutt May 2023 #1
The Law is King. Nation was founded on substitution of Law for Monarch as ruler. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #3
LOL msfiddlestix May 2023 #9
No. He is being instructed so that if he disobeys it, he will have no recourse, no excuse Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #14
Yes. The instructions are mandatory before there can be possibility of enforceable breach. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #19
I understand the logistics PatSeg May 2023 #10
This is instruction, not trial, not hearing, not judgement. It is one way. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #15
Intention of meeting is instruction not trial/punishment. the rump & lawyers are being instructed Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #13
Wish they'd treat him like the criminal he is Marthe48 May 2023 #2
This is not trial or process. This is from Judge to defendant, ONE WAY, to remove any excuse. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #16
Here is a link to the protective order LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #4
This will go exactly as you'd expect, newdayneeded May 2023 #5
He thinks defying judges makes him look tough to his cultists deelee May 2023 #7
Yes, it is like a disorder PatSeg May 2023 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author AllaN01Bear May 2023 #6
Screw him, make him show up with the same entourage anyone else gets. marble falls May 2023 #8
This is cost efficient and less waste of court time and police (keeping civil order) time Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #17
Mr t$%&, do you understand what I just said and this court is ordering? getagrip_already May 2023 #12
It is a given that he will moniss May 2023 #18

Beachnutt

(8,910 posts)
1. Equal justice under the law,
Tue May 23, 2023, 08:24 AM
May 2023

Nobody is above the law.

Maybe I can attend a court hearing via zoom someday if I break the law...
It'd be a lot of expense and trouble for me to show up in person.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
9. LOL
Tue May 23, 2023, 09:44 AM
May 2023

The Law is only KING for the lowly masses. No gag order is being issued as stated in the article, because of his "special statius" as former president and current campaign. REALLY??????

This judge knows damn well this psychopath isn't going to abide by this order. He will continue to attack and intimidate witnesses. Warnings in this case are toothless. He should have already been held in contempt. the order given before was clear.

Instead, he's being given special treatment because of his "special statuts".

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
14. No. He is being instructed so that if he disobeys it, he will have no recourse, no excuse
Tue May 23, 2023, 11:42 AM
May 2023

Can you be specific as to incident and dates and quotes as to why he should be held in contempt on Bragg's case? Or perhaps not.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
19. Yes. The instructions are mandatory before there can be possibility of enforceable breach.
Tue May 23, 2023, 06:14 PM
May 2023

Elementary law 101.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
10. I understand the logistics
Tue May 23, 2023, 09:48 AM
May 2023

of making certain exceptions for someone who is a former President of the United States, as long as they are still held accountable for any crimes they may have committed. In this case, the allowances made were not necessarily for Trump's convenience, but for obvious security concerns.

Of course, there is a certain satisfaction seeing him appear in court and I am hopeful we'll see that more than once in the near future.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
13. Intention of meeting is instruction not trial/punishment. the rump & lawyers are being instructed
Tue May 23, 2023, 11:38 AM
May 2023

Careful what you wish for lest you be required to receive instruction by video link from a judge.

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
2. Wish they'd treat him like the criminal he is
Tue May 23, 2023, 08:25 AM
May 2023

Appear in person, covering orange with orange, shackles, no bail.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
16. This is not trial or process. This is from Judge to defendant, ONE WAY, to remove any excuse. . . nt
Tue May 23, 2023, 11:44 AM
May 2023

deelee

(41 posts)
7. He thinks defying judges makes him look tough to his cultists
Tue May 23, 2023, 09:18 AM
May 2023

...and so far it's worked, as there's been no repercussions.
I'm not convinced this time will be any different

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
11. Yes, it is like a disorder
Tue May 23, 2023, 09:53 AM
May 2023

Once he starts talking, he just can't stop. I've known people like that, though he is ten times worse than any of them. He thinks he can talk his way out of anything, but it doesn't work that way in a court of law, especially when you're under oath.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
17. This is cost efficient and less waste of court time and police (keeping civil order) time
Tue May 23, 2023, 11:47 AM
May 2023

This is not a trial.

This is one way, Judge to obstreperous person. The Judge has wisely chosen an efficient way to communicate instructions and receive acknowledgement that they are heard and understood.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
12. Mr t$%&, do you understand what I just said and this court is ordering?
Tue May 23, 2023, 10:01 AM
May 2023

Tfg: ?

It will be interesting how he responds to a direct statement to acknowledge restrictions.

A smart person would say "yes, your honor". A jerk would say "yes." Tfg will say?

moniss

(9,056 posts)
18. It is a given that he will
Tue May 23, 2023, 01:40 PM
May 2023

attack the witnesses etc. and claim none of what he is doing came from any of the evidence. I understand what the judge is doing but we all know what's coming. Just like in the case of E.Jean Carroll where right after being found guilty of defamation he goes and does it some more. If you lose a case like that you can be sure one of your attorneys is going to advise you that going forward you should keep your mouth shut about anything to do with that person. But he won't listen to any attorney who doesn't tell him what he wants to hear. That's his history. Look at his statements about any of the other cases/investigators/prosecutors. He goes immediately to insulting their families, spouses etc. He understands that so many of his minions have the maturity of a 10 year old and the playground bully routine rings true for them.

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