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Eugene

(66,746 posts)
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 08:28 PM Jul 2023

4 members of a Florida family are convicted of selling a fake COVID-19 cure through online church

Source: Associated Press

MIAMI (AP) — Four members of a Florida family were convicted Wednesday of selling a toxic industrial bleach as a fake COVID-19 cure through their online church.

A federal jury in Miami found Mark Grenon, 65, and his sons, 37-year-old Jonathan, 35-year-old Joseph and 29-year-old Jordan, guilty of conspiring to defraud the United States and deliver misbranded drugs, according to court records. That charge carries up to five years in prison. Their sentencing is scheduled for Oct. 6.

The Grenons represented themselves but declined to speak during the two-day trial, the Miami Herald reported. After the jury delivered its verdict, Joseph Grenon said they would be appealing.

Prosecutors called the Grenons “con men” and “snake-oil salesmen” and said the Bradenton family’s Genesis II Church of Health and Healing sold $1 million worth of their so-called Miracle Mineral Solution. In videos, it was pitched as a cure for 95% of known diseases, including COVID-19, Alzheimer’s, autism, brain cancer, HIV/AIDS and multiple sclerosis, prosecutors said.

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Published 7:33 PM EDT, July 19, 2023


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/fake-covid-cure-florida-church-4aa8f5e670b954ffff6122c6430f15fc

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4 members of a Florida family are convicted of selling a fake COVID-19 cure through online church (Original Post) Eugene Jul 2023 OP
Prayer and bleach cures all. Chainfire Jul 2023 #1
Great! Now prosecutors should watch Jim Bakker's show. Midnight Writer Jul 2023 #2
Federal court, not Florida court FakeNoose Jul 2023 #3
Amazing that people would even buy this crap let alone consume it California Kid Jul 2023 #4
These are not people like us. mwb970 Jul 2023 #14
It appears that it was aimed at the same people eating horse deworming paste. SeattleVet Jul 2023 #15
It's called Blind Faith atreides1 Jul 2023 #17
Jesus, con men and Florida. Now there's a bad combination. paleotn Jul 2023 #5
just con men , old term , snake oil pedelers . AllaN01Bear Jul 2023 #8
There is an argument to be made that death cures all. Solly Mack Jul 2023 #6
Grifting others to literally drink the bad kool-aid BlueWavePsych Jul 2023 #7
con men and snake oil pedelers . AllaN01Bear Jul 2023 #9
95% of known diseases --- I wonder if their stuff could cure my erectile nonfunction? 3Hotdogs Jul 2023 #10
It is so strong it will cure erectile non-function in women. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #16
They need to go after the rest of the MMS charlatans jmowreader Jul 2023 #11
burn in hell boys ZonkerHarris Jul 2023 #12
There is NO ONE easier to fool and con than a religious person. mwb970 Jul 2023 #13
It doesn't help ExWhoDoesntCare Jul 2023 #18
It is a shame people like them can't dematerialize and be gone. LiberalFighter Jul 2023 #19
It was pitched as a cure for 95% of known diseases... ToxMarz Jul 2023 #20
Grifting Grenons onetexan Jul 2023 #21
Have you seen Facebook? Initech Jul 2023 #22

SeattleVet

(5,821 posts)
15. It appears that it was aimed at the same people eating horse deworming paste.
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 01:30 AM
Jul 2023

They had quite an active market going among the MAGAts who were buying anything but actual vaccines and treatments.

Solly Mack

(96,292 posts)
6. There is an argument to be made that death cures all.
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 10:15 PM
Jul 2023

And toxic industrial bleach can kill you.

Glad they got convicted.

3Hotdogs

(14,997 posts)
10. 95% of known diseases --- I wonder if their stuff could cure my erectile nonfunction?
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 11:14 PM
Jul 2023

Where can I get some to try?

jmowreader

(52,877 posts)
11. They need to go after the rest of the MMS charlatans
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 11:14 PM
Jul 2023

This crap has been around far longer than COVID and it never turns out well.

About 15 years ago these particular individuals were selling MMS enemas as The Cure For Autism. They were publishing photos online saying the “tube worms” the kid expelled shortly after getting an MMS enema were the cause of autism. Problem is, these “worms” were actually the child’s intestinal lining, which slid out in one piece after it was bleached to death.

mwb970

(12,061 posts)
13. There is NO ONE easier to fool and con than a religious person.
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 01:21 AM
Jul 2023

Look at the stuff they already believe! Convincing them you have a miracle cure is easy, because they WANT to believe, and for them that's enough. No reference to the Real World.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
18. It doesn't help
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 10:10 AM
Jul 2023

That their crocks in frocks have brainwashed them since birth that faith is superior to reason, and that if facts contradict what they believe, then to spurn the facts and double-down on the belief.

Not a surprise, then, that they are constantly falling for every kind of scam imaginable.

One of these idiots even whined to me at work, "Why don't you ever have this happen to you? I'm a good person who goes to church, you're not, but I'm the one they try to rob."

"I know this will shock you, but I'm a good person--probably a better one than you, at that. And I don't get conned because I haven't had a preacher telling me all of my life to turn off my brain and just believe whatever I'm told. You have, and you'll keep getting ripped off, as long as you keep thinking faith is better than reality. Deal with your choices, rather than annoying everyone with your whining about it, when you won't do what it takes to stop it."

ToxMarz

(2,737 posts)
20. It was pitched as a cure for 95% of known diseases...
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 04:32 PM
Jul 2023

but unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your POV) it can't cure stupid.

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