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BumRushDaShow

(166,095 posts)
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 08:32 AM Aug 2023

The U.S. imports most of its solar panels. A new ruling may make that more expensive

Source: NPR

The Department of Commerce has determined that solar panel manufacturers in four Southeast Asian countries are evading U.S. trade rules by using Chinese-sourced materials subject to tariffs without paying applicable duties. Those countries — Vietnam, Malaysia, Thailand, and Cambodia — are responsible for nearly three-quarters of solar modules imported to the United States.

The ruling, unveiled Friday, means that new U.S. solar projects may soon be more expensive: manufacturers whose goods run afoul of Obama-era solar tariffs will be subject to additional import duties on their products. Those duties, however, will not begin to be assessed until June 2024, when a waiver put in place by the Biden administration is set to expire.

The cost of solar projects is incredibly important as the U.S. races to zero-out power sector greenhouse gas emissions — currently responsible for a quarter of the country's total — by 2035. The world must limit average global warming to about 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit to avoid the most dire effects of climate change. It is not currently on track to achieve that goal.

Already in the United States, average summer temperatures have climbed more than two degrees since 1970 — and winter averages have warmed more than three degrees.

Read more: https://www.npr.org/2023/08/18/1194303196/solar-panel-imports-china

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The U.S. imports most of its solar panels. A new ruling may make that more expensive (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 OP
Fine. Make them here. Make it a priority. Auggie Aug 2023 #1
I'd imagine the price per resident would be cost prohibitive jimfields33 Aug 2023 #2
Fuck the cost. Subsidize them at government expense. Put Americans to work. Auggie Aug 2023 #3
Lol. Maybe in 10 years. jimfields33 Aug 2023 #4
Yeah. Or maybe never. Auggie Aug 2023 #5
True. We subsidize lots of other things FailureToCommunicate Aug 2023 #6
Absolutely! pandr32 Aug 2023 #7
Let the extraction industries pay the subsidies for solar panel manufacturing FakeNoose Aug 2023 #8
Made in USA gonna happen but.... marked50 Aug 2023 #9
Cheaper over there because wages are pitiful Bayard Aug 2023 #10
Yes, and still nothing like OSHA for safety FailureToCommunicate Aug 2023 #12
This sounds like more of a job-saving (in the short term) relief swong19104 Aug 2023 #11
 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
2. I'd imagine the price per resident would be cost prohibitive
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 09:47 AM
Aug 2023

Hence the reason the United States imports. It’s better to add 5 thousand per roof for the cost of the new fees than an additional 25 thousand per roof if made here.

Auggie

(32,913 posts)
3. Fuck the cost. Subsidize them at government expense. Put Americans to work.
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 10:11 AM
Aug 2023

Yeah, pipe dream ...

FakeNoose

(40,307 posts)
8. Let the extraction industries pay the subsidies for solar panel manufacturing
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 11:38 AM
Aug 2023

The oil and gas (formerly including coal) industries have gotten a free ride in this country for way too long as it is.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,583 posts)
12. Yes, and still nothing like OSHA for safety
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 09:58 PM
Aug 2023

Someone gets injured, they bring in the next guys in line.

swong19104

(582 posts)
11. This sounds like more of a job-saving (in the short term) relief
Fri Aug 18, 2023, 06:35 PM
Aug 2023

than helping to reduce carbon emissions. If we want to reduce carbon emissions, then use whatever is available at the cheapest prices. This ruling is basically to protect domestic solar panel manufacturers. We don't need to do that. They just need to figure out how to build faster, cheaper and better.

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