Prosecutors: Trump Mar-a-Lago security aide flipped after changing lawyers

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: Politico

A Trump employee who monitored security cameras at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate abruptly retracted his earlier grand jury testimony and implicated Trump and others in obstruction of justice just after switching from an attorney paid for by a Trump political action committee to a lawyer from the federal defender’s office in Washington, prosecutors said in a court filing Tuesday.

The aide — described as “Trump Employee 4” in public court filings but identified elsewhere as Yuscil Taveras — held the title of director of information technology at Mar-a-Lago. He initially testified to a grand jury in Washington, D.C., that he was unaware of any effort to erase the videos, but after getting the new attorney “immediately … retracted his prior false testimony” and detailed the alleged effort to tamper with evidence related to the investigation of the handling of classified information stored at Trump’s Florida home, the new submission said.

Special counsel Jack Smith’s team revealed the details of the employee’s about-face as part of a filing demanded by Florida-based U.S. District Court Judge Aileen Cannon, who is overseeing the classified records case against the former president.

She had questioned why prosecutors continued to collect evidence from a grand jury empaneled in Washington, D.C., even after Smith obtained a grand jury indictment in Florida in June charging Trump with more than 30 counts of retaining classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/22/trump-witness-reversal-testimony-jack-smith-00112355

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BREAKING: Jack Smith's team tells Judge Cannon that a key witness in Trump's Mar-a-Lago documents case retracted false testimony after switching lawyers.

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New source article updated.

Original new source article -

A Trump employee who monitored security cameras at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate abruptly retracted his earlier grand jury testimony and implicated Trump and others in obstruction of justice just after switching from an attorney paid for by a Trump political action committee to a lawyer from the federal defender's office in Washington, prosecutors said in a court filing Tuesday.

The security aide - described as "Trump Employee 4" in public court filings but identified elsewhere as Yuscil Taveras - initially testified to a grand jury in Washington, D.C. that he was unaware of any effort to erase the videos, but after getting the new attorney "immediately ... retracted his prior false testimony" and detailed the alleged effort to tamper with evidence related to the investigation of the handling of classified information stored at Trump's Florida home, the new submission said.

Special counsel Jack Smith's team revealed the details of the employee's about-face as part of a filing demanded by Florida-based U.S. District Court Judge Aileen Cannon, who is overseeing the classified records case against the former president.

She had questioned why prosecutors continued to collect evidence from a grand jury empaneled in Washington, D.C., even after Smith obtained a grand jury indictment in Florida in June charging Trump with more than 30 counts of retaining classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate. Trump and longtime aides Walt Nauta and Carlos de Oliveira are also charged in the case with taking steps to obstruct investigators seeking to recover the government documents.

Previous source -

(Please forgive the source but just breaking on MSNBC. The content is from Politico's Kyle Cheney. Waiting for Politico to put up their story.)

Key docs case witness retracts 'false testimony' and implicates Trump: Jack Smith

A key witness in the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case has retracted their "false testimony" after switching lawyers, special counsel Jack Smith's team contends in court filings obtained by Politico's Kyle Cheney. The witness is identified as "Employee 4" in Smith's legal team's notification to Judge Aileen Cannon.

"Chief Judge Boasberg made available independent counsel (the First Assistant in the Federal Public Defender's Office for the District of Columbia) to provide advice to Trump Employee 4 regarding potential conflicts. On July 5, 2023, Trump Employee informed Chief Judge Boasberg that he no longer wished to be represented by Mr. Woodward and that, going forward, he wished to be represented by the First Assistant Federal Defender."

The witness since retaining new counsel has provided evidence to prosecutors implicating Donald Trump along with his aide Walt Nauta and Mar-a-Lago staffer Carlos De Olivera, the filing contends.

"Immediately after receiving new counsel, Trump Employee 4 retracted his prior false testimony and provided information that implicated Nauta, De Oliveira and Trump in efforts to delete security camera footage, as set forth in the superseding indictment," the court filings said.

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-2664264918/

[prodigitalson]

1. Nice

[Botany]

2. The walls are closing in on Donny

[gab13by13]

3. One thing about Raw Story

it usually gets the LBN first.

[BumRushDaShow]

4. Yeah and was hoping they had a link

But Kyle Cheney might not have had chance to write it up yet. I'm not a fan of Politico either but do respect Kyle Cheney and the rest of the reporters who have been sitting at the courthouses and reporting (e.g., Scott McFarlane from CBS, etc).

[BumRushDaShow]

6. And he has the story up now

Will switch...

[Fiendish Thingy]

8. Yeah, they steal other legitimate reporters' tweets and quickly turn them into clickbait

Not exactly the definition of a scoop.

[gab13by13]

18. I go to Raw Story all of the time for LBN

not because of its Pulitzer Prize winners, better than The Hill.

I do try to not cut and paste them because of all of the popups.

[bagimin]

5. k& highly recommended

[onetexan]

7. Nicole Wallace just announced this at the end of her show.

Quite surprising but not shocking. The Con is running out of $ & likely is no longer covering employee 4's legal bills. Karmic.

[BumRushDaShow]

11. That's where I heard it

and then was like this trying to find who did the scoop -

[onetexan]

14. thanks for posting!!

[BumRushDaShow]

15. Most welcome

Have to clean the place up after that though...

[Evolve Dammit]

29. nice Sponge Bob imagry!

[BumRushDaShow]

30. I literally was like that looking for the news site that had the story

[Evolve Dammit]

33. I admire your diligence and amazing research!

[BumRushDaShow]

35. Thank you!

I am doing it because I want to know too!!!!!

[qzwv8j]

45. The information came out originally

The information came out originally, publically, in a Mara lago case filing.

You can read most of the case filings at court listener. Search by the case # and the whole docket comes up. This way, you get the whole story and that the media sensationalized version

[qzwv8j]

39. That is not why #4 switched representation

He left Woodward because at his García hearing in DC he realized he was potentially going under the trump bus and was between a rock and a hard spot unless he told the truth.

Smith flipped him by having enough evidence that resulted in #4 either telling the truth or being indicted himself.

[TomSlick]

43. Which is why Jack Smith requested a Garcia hearing.

Sing, sing a song. Sing out loud. Sing out strong.

[qzwv8j]

44. Exactly. Not because Trump wasn't paying bills

Exactly. Not because Trump wasn’t paying bills.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

65. 🎵 Reduce a sentence...🎵

🎵 That was a lifetime long...🎵

🎵 Don't worry your infos not good enough to totally set you free...🎵

🎵 Just sing. Sing that song...🎵

[iluvtennis]

9. Employee 4 is the IT guy who said he did not have the right to "delete the server" as "the boss"

had requested.

From the superseding indictment issued on 7/27/23:

[FakeNoose]

16. I think this guy might be a new American hero

Thank goodness he got his own lawyer - early enough to make a difference.

[Novara]

23. He's not a hero for refusing to go to prison for that criminal

He initially lied.

The only heroes in this whole saga are Jack Smith and the prosecutors in the DOJ.

[FakeNoose]

26. He initially refused to destroy the evidence against Chump - that's what I meant by heroic

Would Chump get convicted even without those tapes? Probably...

But it was a gift for the US Attorneys to get those tapes. AND now they have Taveras's testimony too

[Farmer-Rick]

40. Any Good lawyer would have advised him

To tell the truth and see what kind of deal he could get.

But I'm sure bad Trump lawyers advised him to do just the opposite.

He's only doing what's best for himself. Too many witnesses try to protect the idiot mob boss Trump and ensure their lives are worse for it.

[Schmice3]

10. Plead him out before he gets the Epstein treatment

[gab13by13]

19. Nicolle already reported that he changed his grand jury testimony.

[Deep State Witch]

12. Boom

Goes the dynamite!

[usonian]

13. 🐬🐬🐬 Smith keeps shipping cuz folks keep flipping. 🐬🐬🐬

Oh, the popcorn be poppin.

[Rhiannon12866]

17. BREAKING: Key witness in Mar-a-Lago documents case retracts false testimony after switching lawyers

Former FBI General Counsel Andrew Weissmann joins Nicolle Wallace to react to the breaking news that Special Counsel Jack Smith's office revealed that an employee at Mar-a-Lago, known in the indictment as Trump Employee 4, got new representation and retracted false testimony. - Deadline - MSNBC - Aired on 08/22/2023.

[BumRushDaShow]

22. Thanks

I had been going nuts trying to find out who had the story (Nicole didn't say) and did find Raw Story posted a story based on the tweet by Politico's Kyle Cheney, and he finally got his story up.

[Rhiannon12866]

24. Good news! And since Andrew Weissmann weighed in, I thought it was worth adding

[Evolve Dammit]

32. Is it just me or do I hope the three tropical storms move into a joint "event" toward MagatLardo??

Actually I don't want anyone else hurt, just that one property which I realize is totally unrealistic, but to see it swept away to Atlantis or the Bermuda Triangle might make me believe in a higher power of some sort. Poseidon? Neptune? Karma, "God's will"? Something?

[BlueIdaho]

20. And Judge Loose Cannon wonders why

The prosecutors have ongoing investigations? She better be careful or she’s gonna bury Donny Dumbshit.

[gab13by13]

21. Here is the funny part,

the 3 Stooges are indicted for obstruction of justice and they were too stupid to destroy the surveillance tapes. The surveillance tapes helped to incriminate them. You can't make this shit up.

Trump tried to destroy his server, LOCK HIM UP.

[gab13by13]

25. I see that Jack Smith has announced

that the DC/stolen documents grand jury has disbanded. Maybe the final piece was individual #4 flipping his testimony?

[NBachers]

27. What does he know about the "accidental" pool flood into the room where computer servers containing

surveillance video logs were kept?

[moniss]

31. Certainly is difficult to explain

why you would choose to use the computer room for "draining the pool".

[BumRushDaShow]

53. I remember doing the thread on that

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143083434

Article from CNN - https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/05/politics/mar-a-lago-pool-flood-suspicions-prosecutors-trump-investigation-classified-documents/index.html

One of the workers had a phone seized at the time.

[Solly Mack]

28. Dimes be falling.

[progressoid]

34. It'S ThE DeEp StAtE!!11!

They are all in on it. They are framing the bestest presidint we ever had!!11!!

[BumRushDaShow]

37. IOW

[TSExile]

60. I never understood the logic of that phrase...

...how can T**** drain the swamp? He IS the swamp!!!!

[BumRushDaShow]

63. Projection.

That's about the only tactic that they do continually in lieu of actually "thinking".

[TSExile]

69. True

Someone wrote a comment online that is gold. I believe it was posted on the Lincoln Project page. It said something along the lines of, "Republicans use projection the way people with dysentery use toilet paper." I wish I could remember for sure, because I would tell whoever wrote that phrase to copyright it! Genius.

[moniss]

36. I think Nauta

is going to be very nervous. He is now between the guy below who has every reason to flip like the other guy and the Orange Ruski himself who Nauta surely must know will throw him to the wolves to protect himself. Waltine better start looking out for Waltine and forget about how nice it's been to cozy up to the Orange Ruski and live at Mar-ugh-Ghastly. Does anybody know what became of that meat-head long time bodyguard that the Orange Ruski dragged with him from the Tower of Evil to the WH? Interesting also today is the revelation by Jack Smith in a court filing that he has the deleted Secret Service texts from the time surrounding 1/6. Wolf and Cuccinelli thought they had nothing to worry about. Remember that the supposed IG investigation claimed they couldn't be retrieved and were permanently gone. Another person trying to provide cover for the crooks and insurrectionists.

[Hamlette]

38. wasn't it always assumed that employee 4 was providing information to Smith?

when the superseding indictment came out I thought we all guessed employee 4 was the good guy and was giving dirt on all of them, or at least on those who asked him to delete the video.

Not sure why this is breaking news? I know it was in Smith's pleadings in FL to show why the grand jury was still sitting and needed to take evidence but new? I'm confused.

[BumRushDaShow]

41. It was only speculated

Initial reporting - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143106957

He was given a target letter but wasn't charged at the time.

The fact that a filing was made TODAY as a result of Loose Cannon demanding it, and it is now "publicly admitted", is "breaking news". It continues to show why she needs to be removed.

ETA - Andrew Weissmann is literally on Alex Wagner's show right now saying the above about Cannon - (if she tries to preclude this then she WILL BE REVERSED).

[Hamlette]

51. thanks, I was a bit surprised Weissemann didn't mention that on Nicole's show

[BumRushDaShow]

56. There were some overlapping stories going on with the staff at MAL

I had found the OP about the "pool flood" - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143083434 and that brings up the property manager and his son too...

The source was CNN - https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/05/politics/mar-a-lago-pool-flood-suspicions-prosecutors-trump-investigation-classified-documents/index.html

Exclusive: Mar-a-Lago pool flood raises suspicions among prosecutors in Trump classified documents case

By Katelyn Polantz, Jeremy Herb and Kaitlan Collins, CNN
Updated 7:07 PM EDT, Mon June 5, 2023

(snip)

Focus on Trump employees

Prosecutors from the special counsel’s office have focused their obstruction inquiries around Trump, Trump’s body man Walt Nauta and a maintenance worker who helped Nauta move boxes of classified documents ahead of federal agents searching the property last summer, and potentially others, sources told CNN.

The sources say that the maintenance worker is the person who drained the pool that led to the flooding of the IT room where the surveillance footage was held.

Last month, longtime Trump Organization executives Matthew Calamari Sr. and his son Matthew Calamari Jr., who each held senior roles overseeing security at Trump properties and the surveillance of the Florida club, appeared before the grand jury.

At the time, Investigators were interested in both the maintenance worker’s conversations and a text message from Nauta to Calamari Sr. where Nauta asked to talk. An attorney for Nauta declined to comment for this story. A spokesman for Trump and an attorney representing the maintenance worker did not immediately respond to a request to comment.

(snip)

There is this mention of a "maintenance worker" and I don't know if Carlos De Oliveira, who worked with Nauta, and ended up being charged on a superseding indictment is that-then "maintenance worker" who had a phone seized, or whether there is someone else (other than this IT guy Taveras).

[Bev54]

48. Yes I don't think there was much doubt about that. It is why I feel people seem to

have short memories or do not actually read the filings. That is not the breaking news, it is more about why the GJ was still in session, the Judge had speculated that it might not be proper but DOJ confirms it was to deal with the perjury of the witness that flipped and it was the proper venue as that is the GJ he committed perjury to. It also is Smith schooling Cannon that she best not screw up the hearing for a conflict of interest because the other side is trying to say they can avoid conflict by not allowing the star witness testify instead of a hearing of conflict of the lawyer.

Sometimes it is like deja vu when people get excited about something that was previously reported and pretty certain from the filings.

[Hamlette]

52. agree but was surprised Nicole Wallace and guests didn't go into it that deep.

[Bev54]

55. I understand that she just got the filing as she was signing off and didn't have much

time to think it through let alone read it. I think that many of them rely on the tv lawyers to explain things instead of reading the filings carefully themselves, except in the big indictments. I also think many of the tv lawyers themselves only read the bigger filings or else they cannot remember what was in previous filings.

[Hamlette]

57. my problem was you don't have to read the pleadings filed today

with Cannon. They should have stopped to think "we already knew he was cooperating by the info in the previous filing which contained info that only employee 4 could have provided."

So I was confused. Glad to know it wasn't me but I do expect more from my new source.

[Bev54]

42. OK but we kind of figured that out 3 weeks ago when Smith made the motion

for a Garcia hearing for Woodward's conflict of interests. Maybe it was not spelled out as clearly as today's filing but it was pretty clear. This is the wording in that motion from weeks ago.

"The Government has conferred with Trump Employee 4’s new counsel, and Trump Employee 4 does not intend to waive his rights to confidentiality, loyalty, and conflict-free representation with respect to his earlier representation by Mr. Woodward.

[snip]

Trump Employee 4’s presence at the hearing is not required. As set forth above, Trump Employee 4 has informed the Government, through his new counsel, that he takes no position as to Mr. Woodward’s continuing representation of Nauta (or anyone else) but does not consent to the use or disclosure of his client confidences and expects Mr. Woodward to comport with the ethical rules regarding maintenance of client confidences."

I am at a loss why this is the big news, when it seems that really the news is that Smith is giving Cannon a first year law student lesson on how she may well get overturned again if she rules the wrong way and try to prevent the star witness from testifying (as Woodward suggests) instead of having a proper hearing on the conflicts of interests.

[BumRushDaShow]

46. See above

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3119053

Weismann had touched on the "conflict of interest" thing, but that doesn't necessarily mean there would be a flip, although it does happen.

Taveras did receive a target letter but hadn't been charged (yet). So this latest, demanded by Loose Cannon, clarifies what was going on behind the scenes.

The fact that perjury was committed with Taveras' original testimony suggests a plea deal might have been in negotiation, assuming Smith was about to charge with another superseding indictment.

[Bev54]

47. We were all quite aware that it was likely he flipped and the filings showed that.

What this filing shows is that he had lied to the grand jury and when he got new counsel he changed his tune but we all knew that the charges against De Oliveira came from the "IT guy". The news in this filing is not about the flipping but about the idiot lawyer and his conflicts and the DOJ making it very clear to the judge she best not screw this up. It also confirms that the GJ in DC was still in session handling the perjury and the flipping of Taveras in answer to the Judges question about why there was still a GJ investigating in DC. It wasn't investigating but dealing with perjury from a previous witness and it was the proper place to hear his new testimony. That was new to us, as we all speculated why the GJ was still in session. The only thing not new to me was the guy got new representation and flipped, we knew that when they charged the superseding indictment.

[BumRushDaShow]

49. Well again

it was all speculative and putting 2 + 2 together, but that doesn't = "a certainty". As it is, few knew that a grand jury had even been impaneled in FL as everything prior had been taking place in D.C. and then suddenly the buzz started (since the docs had been stored in FL) and witnesses started showing up at a courthouse in FL, and that is where the charges ended up being filed.

Some of us have even speculated that there might be one in NJ due to one of the most obvious potential "crimes" of "mishandling classified information", happened in Bedminster. But we haven't heard any confirmation of that...

[Bev54]

54. It really was not that speculative and even the tv lawyers knew that at the time, including

Weissman. And the filing for the Garcia hearing confirmed it back in Aug 2 I think it was. Yes the GJ in session for his perjury is news as was the schooling of Cannon news but not that the IT guy flipped.

[BumRushDaShow]

58. Here

Weissmann starts at ~1.20

(ETA to note that very early on, Nauta had been cooperating, notably last year in spring of 2022 but then switched to Woodward and that was the end of that)

[Bev54]

59. I saw this live and at the time wondered what happened to their memories.

Go back and look at some of the discussions back when DeOliveira was indicted. This was such bs. And I included in my original post the wording in the filing of Aug 2 whereby Smith confirmed that the IT guy got new counsel. The only thing we didn't know is if he lied to the GJ and that was confirmed today. I think the tv commentors did not read the document before making their breaking news report. What she reported was hardly breaking news at all.

[BumRushDaShow]

61. The Guardian had a report

- https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/02/trump-valet-conflict-interest-documents-case-nauta

that described what was going on with the conflict of interest filings and the potential that 1 of the 3 (apparently Taveras) could testify against the other 2, with all having the same lawyer, and how that should be a no-go

But the OP report came from Politico that explicitly indicated there was a change of testimony noted in a filing that was done today and I think that confirmation was the big deal.

What Weissmann did note that I agree with, is that there may be other employees cooperating in addition... So we have to stay tuned!

[Bev54]

64. And isn't that exactly what I said? That it was the change of testimony to GJ after committing

perjury that was the news, not that he flipped?

[BumRushDaShow]

67. No, what you and a couple others "said" was that it wasn't "breaking news"

and there was nothing that was detailed in any court filing that confirmed either way.

This is a copy of the actual document that was filed in court yesterday (8/22/23) which is what the "breaking news" was about - https://t.co/TrUDLFDTmm (PDF)

This is a copy of what was filed (request for a Garcia hearing) at the beginning of the month (8/2/23) which is what earlier articles were using for speculation about what was going on - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.97.0_1.pdf (PDF)

There was nothing in that 8/2/23 court filing that explicitly indicated that there was "a flip". It was deduced that this is what might have happened, and articles were being written that this is probably what was going on, but it was not spelled out until 8/22/23.

This is the section in there that Weissmann brought up -

III. It Would Be Error to Suppress Trump Employee 4’s Testimony

Nauta contends (ECF No. 126 at 4-5) that if the Court finds a conflict, it should preclude
Trump Employee 4 from testifying at trial, rather than employ more routine remedies. That
proposed remedy is contrary to precedent and—except for the district court ruling reversed in
United States v. Messino, 181 F.3d 826 (7th Cir. 1999)—would appear to be unprecedented.
Courts have rejected exclusion of evidence as a remedy to avoid a conflict of interest,
concluding that evidence that is “relevant to the Government’s case” should not “be excluded to
accommodate a defendant’s choice of counsel.” United States v. Urbana, 770 F. Supp. 1552, 1559
n.17 (S.D. Fla. 1991); see Messino, 181 F.3d at 830; United States v. Lech, 895 F. Supp. 586, 592-
93 (S.D.N.Y. 1995). Exclusion of probative testimony “is an extreme sanction and would only
harm the interests of justice.” Lech, 895 F. Supp. at 592. A “defendant’s choice of counsel” should
not “take precedence over the Government’s discretion in deciding what charges to prosecute and
how to present its case.” United States v. Pungitore, 910 F.2d 1084, 1142-43 (3d Cir. 1990).

(snip)

Nauta has not identified any case, and the Government is unaware of one, in which a
court has excluded evidence to avoid a conflict on facts remotely similar to this case, where the
Government put Mr. Woodward on notice long ago about potential conflicts, and he is now seeking
to affirmatively use those conflicts to gain a tactical advantage at trial by excluding highly
incriminating evidence to the benefit of not only his own client but also a co-defendant (Trump)
whose PAC is paying his legal fees. The Court should not countenance this maneuver.

What will need to be further clarified, which is now being speculated about in the media and by pundits, is whether there was a cooperation agreement that would waive a perjury charge in exchange for the testimony OR whether there might actually be a need for an agreement for a plea to perjury with cooperative testimony, in lieu of additional potential other charges related to obstruction.

[Bev54]

74. I said him flipping was not breaking news and went on to say what was breaking.

Read it again

[BumRushDaShow]

75. We will have to agree to disagree

When it comes to confirmations vs speculation or deductions or assumptions, I welcome the legal confirmation. The "legal confirmation" ( "admitting to" in a court filing) is "breaking". The reasons behind it are additional useful details of the background and outcome.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

76. +1

Some see talking heads speculating with authority, on the basis of their "former" statuses, and unfortunately that becomes "news."

I think that may explain frustrations with the pace of the investigations, thinking unconfirmed reporting is true.

Thanks for this thread, and for your seemingly limitless patience.

[cstanleytech]

50. Makes me wonder if the first lawyer might be involved in something shady like being more interested

in protecting Trump rather than the clients he is supposed to be representing.

[Deuxcents]

62. Yes..any accountability for being unethical?

[Justice]

72. Agree, said that to my partner - the lawyer, Stanley Woodward gonna go through some things

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/30/legal-nerd-maga-bigwigs-stanley-woodward-00071385

This article makes Stanley out to be some superhero, helping the little guys - when really, he is up to his eyeballs with Trump. This Politico piece is a super slick marketing piece. Disgusting. This guy reps everyone from Oath Keepers to Navarro, Patel, Scavino, Nauta, Bannon etc.

Bizarre twist is Stanley's law partner is Tip O’Neill-era House counsel Stan Brand!

Will be interesting to see what Yuscil Taveras told Grand Jury about the advice Stanley gave him when preparing for his original testimony.

-----
Recall Casey Hutchinson's first lawyer --- Stefan C. Passantino was put in the cross hairs because of what Casey Hutchinson said Stefan advised her --

Hutchinson testified that Passantino, told her to
-- downplay her knowledge of events before the attack
-- “The less you remember, the better”
-- ‘I don’t recall’ is not a lie”
-- didn't tell Hutchinson to lie, but told her not to volunteer information and not to try to refresh her memory, discouraged her from reviewing her calendars in preparation for her testimony before the J6 committee


Stefan lost his job at Michael Best, efforts to disbar him in Washington, D.C., Georgia and New York- allegations include --

-- Passantino provided advice that was contrary to Hutchinson’s best interests and instead was intended to protect Trump.
-- Passantino told Hutchinson that she would get a good job in “Trump world” when her testimony was over.

https://lawandcrime.com/jan-6-committee/lawyers-want-donald-trump-ethics-lawyers-who-represented-former-white-house-aide-before-jan-6-committee-disbarred/

https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/first-lawyer-who-advised-jan.-6-witness-cassidy-hutchinson-should-face-ethics-probe-group-tells-regulators

[Kennah]

66. Stuck the landing

[Mysterian]

68. So, at least one of the crooks found a sane, competent lawyer

to prevent them from swirling down the toilet with sore loserman.

[twodogsbarking]

70. And this..................

[MissMillie]

71. Not really surprising

His first testimony was that he "didn't recall..." being asked to erase the videos?

As if that wasn't a huge red flag to begin with.

[republianmushroom]

73. A lot more popcorn.