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BumRushDaShow

(165,792 posts)
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 11:51 AM Aug 2023

Proud Boy Joe Biggs receives 17 years in Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy case

Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON — Joe Biggs, a Proud Boys leader convicted of seditious conspiracy who the government says "served as an instigator and leader" during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, was sentenced to 17 years in federal prison on Thursday.

It is among the longest sentences in Capitol riot cases. The record is the 18-year sentence given to Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, also convicted of seditious conspiracy, after prosecutors sought 25 years in federal prison in his case.

The government sought 33 years for Biggs, an Army veteran who sustained a head injury in Iraq and then served as a correspondent for the conspiracy website Infowars. Prosecutors argued that he was a “vocal leader and influential proponent of the group’s shift toward political violence” and used his “outsized public profile” and his military experience as he “led a revolt against the government in an effort to stop the peaceful transfer of power.”

U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly handed down Biggs' sentence. He ruled earlier in Thursday's hearing that Biggs’ tearing down of a fence that stood between police and rioters qualified him for a terrorism sentencing enhancement sought by prosecutors. Destroying the fence was a “deliberate, meaningful step” that contributed to the disruption of the electoral vote count occurring in the Capitol, Kelly said.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/proud-boy-joe-biggs-faces-decades-prison-jan-6-seditious-conspiracy-ca-rcna102597

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Proud Boy Joe Biggs receives 17 years in Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy case (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 OP
Prosecutors asked for 33 years...but I'll take the 17 years. YAY!! iluvtennis Aug 2023 #1
Yes. And I believe Federal convictions require completion of 85% before consideration for probation hlthe2b Aug 2023 #21
Yep, he'll be mid-50s when he walks from jail. joshcryer Aug 2023 #47
Wow, not the 50% like some states. Woohoo! n/t iluvtennis Aug 2023 #56
I know Federal convictions have the 85% completion rule Best_man23 Sep 2023 #63
That is the time required served before he can be CONSIDERED for probation. Big difference. hlthe2b Sep 2023 #66
Yes, me too. I'm celebrating this conviction and sentencing, even though 33 yrs would be great too! msfiddlestix Aug 2023 #53
And yet another family-including a daughter suffers because riversedge Aug 2023 #2
He is a terrorist irisblue Aug 2023 #5
He sure is. He led people who were saying and doing things like this. bottomofthehill Aug 2023 #52
Fuck him, Officer Brian Sicknick is dead. bottomofthehill Aug 2023 #54
Yep housecat Aug 2023 #57
All these people Traildogbob Aug 2023 #10
"I'm one of the nicest people in the world... Sky Jewels Aug 2023 #12
Really nice guy, he led a riot where a police officer was killed bottomofthehill Aug 2023 #55
If you talk to a maga long enough... Omnipresent Aug 2023 #13
Boo. Fucking. Hoo. hatrack Aug 2023 #14
He should have had a bullet right between his fucking eyes that day. Lucky Luciano Aug 2023 #22
Only in America housecat Aug 2023 #58
But see you are a terrorist and a fool. Tikki Aug 2023 #25
This from a guy who promoted date rape and sexual violence toward women. Spare me. Native Aug 2023 #29
How did I miss this? niyad Aug 2023 #39
"Every kiss begins with roofies." Native Aug 2023 #49
I am surprised you missed this! But it's OK, he was just depressed. Native Aug 2023 #51
Who is pissed because his daughter was SA'd by a relative. OMGWTF Aug 2023 #48
Not enough. calimary Aug 2023 #43
Yes. Snackshack Aug 2023 #61
Yes. Snackshack Aug 2023 #62
I'd like to see more, but I'll settle for it. I hope this sets a new precedent for higher sentences. NBachers Aug 2023 #3
Thoughts and prayes, Joe. Thoughts about how long it will be and prayers that you serve Wonder Why Aug 2023 #4
Enjoy your membership in the "Felon Club". republianmushroom Aug 2023 #6
Right Traildogbob Aug 2023 #11
...and kiss your precious guns goodbye at the prison gate. lastlib Aug 2023 #16
...unless he gets friends to buy them for him. calimary Aug 2023 #44
Abide by the laws Marthe48 Aug 2023 #7
This sentence should be longer LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #8
It should be longer, but it is a federal conviction Major Nikon Sep 2023 #69
Judge Kelly: "What happened that day didn't honor our founders. It's the type of thing they wrote riversedge Aug 2023 #9
Proud Boys member Joe Biggs has been sentenced to 17 years LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #15
Is the same guy that was on the run after being allowed to go home? Tess49 Aug 2023 #17
They still haven't found that guy BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #20
Ok. Thanks! Tess49 Aug 2023 #38
YW BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #41
Ashamed Boy terrorized Americans because he didn't like election outcome IronLionZion Aug 2023 #18
Here is a picture of him marching to the Capitol......... riversedge Aug 2023 #19
More like ecstatic...he said he had a "fucking boner" while the riot was happening. Native Aug 2023 #50
I saw that clip of him on J6 where he was guffawing and saying that he "had an effing boner." catbyte Aug 2023 #23
We all know what a Proud Boy really is, don't we? Jilly_in_VA Aug 2023 #24
Listening to him speak it somewhat reminds me of Don Junior. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2023 #26
FAFO Botany Aug 2023 #27
His prison attire will be ... slightly.... different. 4lbs Aug 2023 #32
Will he still be smiling in that orange jumpsuit? Botany Aug 2023 #34
Reminds me of that one scene in "Shawshank Redemption" 4lbs Aug 2023 #37
He won't be able to vote for the next 17 years. LiberalFighter Aug 2023 #28
Nice! Biggs is doing "big time" in the "big house" 4lbs Aug 2023 #30
1+ keithbvadu2 Aug 2023 #31
"instigator and leader", "used his outsized public profile", "riling up the crowd". Midnight Writer Aug 2023 #33
Well sure, when they put it like that, it sounds pretty serious. haha JohnnyRingo Aug 2023 #35
Should have been tried for constitutional treason The Grand Illuminist Aug 2023 #36
Just like the "Shaman" Al Gorhythm Aug 2023 #40
Not enough orangecrush Aug 2023 #42
Ha Ha... Idiot masmdu Aug 2023 #45
and he will be pardoned if trump is reelected IcyPeas Aug 2023 #46
All of his military privileges should be forfeited. BunnyMcGee Aug 2023 #59
"The finding out phase" is upon him. onecaliberal Aug 2023 #60
Biggs goes well beyond just online shit he was a hate talker for infowars* at one time. Botany Sep 2023 #65
Shoulda been with his kid then, that's the point. onecaliberal Sep 2023 #67
But Joe, the life lessons your daughter may learn from this! And your wife.. lostnfound Sep 2023 #64
Well bless his piece of shit heart Major Nikon Sep 2023 #68

hlthe2b

(112,818 posts)
21. Yes. And I believe Federal convictions require completion of 85% before consideration for probation
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 12:42 PM
Aug 2023

So, there are some assurances he's going to spend quite some time away.

Best_man23

(5,267 posts)
63. I know Federal convictions have the 85% completion rule
Fri Sep 1, 2023, 06:47 AM
Sep 2023

While that's about 14 years, IMO this MAGAt needs to serve every year and day of that 17 year sentence.

And, he should consider himself fortunate to get just those that 17 years, as the prosecution wanted over 30 years.

hlthe2b

(112,818 posts)
66. That is the time required served before he can be CONSIDERED for probation. Big difference.
Fri Sep 1, 2023, 07:43 AM
Sep 2023

So many conflate probation ELIGIBILITY as the automatic "get-out-of-jail" card. It is not. Especially in the Federal system. Especially when police officers are injured or killed. Case in point, the sad episode of Leonard Pelletier, now on his 46th year incarcerated (in light of the intense lobbying of FBI against pardons by the past several Presidents and with a LOT of questions remaining about his guilt to begin with).

So, I don't worry too much about these actual guilty creeps getting out early.

msfiddlestix

(8,162 posts)
53. Yes, me too. I'm celebrating this conviction and sentencing, even though 33 yrs would be great too!
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 03:40 PM
Aug 2023

I hadn't realized he had stood trial. jeeze so many of these cult worshiping traitors,

awesome news.

bottomofthehill

(9,332 posts)
54. Fuck him, Officer Brian Sicknick is dead.
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 03:54 PM
Aug 2023

He will never do anything again. I don’t care if this piece of shit terrorist can’t walk his daughter to school. Buy the ticket take the ride.

Traildogbob

(12,561 posts)
10. All these people
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 12:04 PM
Aug 2023

Should be furious trump is golfing and the other 18 are playing the system and free. And Nesdiws May walk free. But, we will see. If they boing the Trump prison choir to sing for his KKKlan Jamborees, fuck em. Don’t wanna hear about your poor kids. FAFO. Proud boy’s ARE terrorists. Period. Ya can’t ride around in ISIS carb in the back of a trumo with ISIS flags, armed with war toys, threatening people, then cry in court that you are a nice person, and whoa is me and my poor kids.
But look on the bright side, you get to meet MTG in person and get on your knees to beg to HER Allah for freedom.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
12. "I'm one of the nicest people in the world...
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 12:08 PM
Aug 2023

...Sure, I terrorize non-white people, but they don't count as real humans, as we all know..."

bottomofthehill

(9,332 posts)
55. Really nice guy, he led a riot where a police officer was killed
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 03:57 PM
Aug 2023

And thousands of Hill Staff were terrorized and millions of American were traumatized.

He is really not a nice guy, he is a piece of shit.

Omnipresent

(7,307 posts)
13. If you talk to a maga long enough...
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 12:09 PM
Aug 2023

Some are bound to say things like Schumer, Pelosi, or Biden (and anyone else on the left) needs to be executed, as part of their rant against the left.

I told my girlfriends father (maga) that it is unacceptable to talk about killing leaders of our Democracy, and that if we turn this country into a third world dictatorship, we will have nothing but violent, political overthrow, more often than not. That is why it is extremely important that we uphold our constitution.

With him, it went in one ear and out the other. Biggs made his bed, now he has to sleep in it.

Lucky Luciano

(11,814 posts)
22. He should have had a bullet right between his fucking eyes that day.
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 12:50 PM
Aug 2023

He should consider himself lucky.

Native

(7,298 posts)
51. I am surprised you missed this! But it's OK, he was just depressed.
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 03:12 PM
Aug 2023

And his wife helped him change his ways so, you know, we should all give this piece of shit a break, right?

I'd love to interview any young, female babysitters they've hired over the years.

OMGWTF

(5,013 posts)
48. Who is pissed because his daughter was SA'd by a relative.
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 02:33 PM
Aug 2023

Shitler is a convicted sexual assaulter, and you worship him. Have big fun in the Grey Bar Hotel you fucking POS.

Snackshack

(2,573 posts)
61. Yes.
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 11:22 PM
Aug 2023

Not sure yet how I feel about this.

Hand #1- Thinks all this does is create a person who if they were not 100% into 6 Jan but were the weekend warrior who really did get caught up in a moment along with many others who had been stoked/incited to a fevered pitch by DT and several other congress members just hours earlier after the years of hate hate hate from the gop hate machine. If they were not committed they will be after a decade + in a jail.

Hand #2- These people tried to steal my vote by following a man who took an oath and also wanted to steal my vote after losing 1 million + Americans while telling us disinfectant injections might help + hush payments, Russia, everything else the pos DT did…that is who they followed and had they been successful I believe some members of Congress would be dead and they would have destroyed our Democracy. Put them away for life, twice, just to be sure.

This would be much more palatable if the DOJ and all that that entails had made examples out of a pos ex-president, several congress members and various other significant backers of this horrible act that cost several lives that day and immediately following first instead of a bunch of people that unfortunately a significant number of Americans identify with and have sympathy for. Then seeing this person cry while talking to his daughter in court would have no power.

Oh well. This is the path chosen and it’s much too late to start over.

Snackshack

(2,573 posts)
62. Yes.
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 11:23 PM
Aug 2023

Not sure yet how I feel about this.

Hand #1- Thinks all this does is create a person who if they were not 100% into 6 Jan but were the weekend warrior who really did get caught up in a moment along with many others who had been stoked/incited to a fevered pitch by DT and several other congress members just hours earlier after the years of hate hate hate from the gop hate machine. If they were not committed they will be after a decade + in a jail.

Hand #2- These people tried to steal my vote by following a man who took an oath and also wanted to steal my vote after losing 1 million + Americans while telling us disinfectant injections might help + hush payments, Russia, everything else the pos DT did…that is who they followed and had they been successful I believe some members of Congress would be dead and they would have destroyed our Democracy. Put them away for life, twice, just to be sure.

This would be much more palatable if the DOJ and all that that entails had made examples out of a pos ex-president, several congress members and various other significant backers of this horrible act that cost several lives that day and immediately following first instead of a bunch of people that unfortunately a significant number of Americans identify with and have sympathy for. Then seeing this person cry while talking to his daughter in court would have no power.

Oh well. This is the path chosen and it’s much too late to start over.

NBachers

(19,184 posts)
3. I'd like to see more, but I'll settle for it. I hope this sets a new precedent for higher sentences.
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 11:57 AM
Aug 2023

Wonder Why

(6,552 posts)
4. Thoughts and prayes, Joe. Thoughts about how long it will be and prayers that you serve
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 11:58 AM
Aug 2023

it all. You went from being a hero who served his country to a traitor who tried to destroy it.

calimary

(89,041 posts)
44. ...unless he gets friends to buy them for him.
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 02:13 PM
Aug 2023

I doubt he’ll ever be gun-free for long, after he finally serves his sentence.

And I’ve gotta say - I don’t for one minute believe he’s sorry. I think he’s sorry he got caught, and nailed for it. I bet deep down he still thinks he was right.

But then again, gotta add - I don’t feel moved to cut these schmucks ANY slack after what they did - AND who they stood for.

Marthe48

(22,727 posts)
7. Abide by the laws
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 11:59 AM
Aug 2023

I'll be involved in my kids' life because I didn't try to overthrow the government because a rw person got elected president.

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,971 posts)
8. This sentence should be longer
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 12:01 PM
Aug 2023


https://www.meidastouch.com/news/breaking-proud-boys-leader-biggs-sentenced-to-years

Joe Biggs, who led the Proud Boys on J6 with Ethan Nordean and Enrique Tarrio, was sentenced in federal court today to years in prison. This was the second longest sentence given to any participant on the insurrection, second Oathkeeper's leader Stewart Rhodes previous sentence of 18 years.

Judge Kelly agreed with the government that the Terrorism Enhancement was appropriate to add to his guidelines, which was an early blow to Biggs at his sentencing. This resulted in a sentencing guidelines range for Biggs of 27-33 years. These guidelines, however, are advisory so the court was not required to sentence Biggs within that range.

The government urged the judge to sentence Biggs to the top of the guidelines of 33 years while the defense was asking for several months in prison followed by probation.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
69. It should be longer, but it is a federal conviction
Fri Sep 1, 2023, 08:42 AM
Sep 2023

That means he will spend every single day of those 17 years behind bars. He'll be 56 when he gets out of prison.

riversedge

(79,434 posts)
9. Judge Kelly: "What happened that day didn't honor our founders. It's the type of thing they wrote
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 12:02 PM
Aug 2023


Judge Kelly: “What happened that day didn’t honor our founders. It’s the type of thing they wrote our constitution to prevent”

A national disgrace, he says

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riversedge

(79,434 posts)
19. Here is a picture of him marching to the Capitol.........
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 12:39 PM
Aug 2023

Bet a nickle he is not wearing that happy face today!!



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FILE - Proud Boys members including Zachary Rehl, left, Ethan Nordean, center, and Joseph Biggs, walk toward the U.S. Capitol in Washington, in support of President Donald Trump on Jan. 6, 2021. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster, fFle)

catbyte

(38,657 posts)
23. I saw that clip of him on J6 where he was guffawing and saying that he "had an effing boner."
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 12:52 PM
Aug 2023

Posting on Twitter threats to BLM and Antifa. Now he's in tears in front of the judge and saying he doesn't want to belong to any group unless it's his daughter's PTA.

Cry me a river, traitor. The judge let you off easy, although I don't know why.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,812 posts)
24. We all know what a Proud Boy really is, don't we?
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 12:54 PM
Aug 2023

He's a gelding who still thinks he has his balls.

(from my friend Lindsey, the Texas horse trainer)

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
32. His prison attire will be ... slightly.... different.
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 01:41 PM
Aug 2023

Will he still be smiling in that orange jumpsuit? Hmm...

Botany

(76,404 posts)
34. Will he still be smiling in that orange jumpsuit?
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 01:45 PM
Aug 2023

In a word no. He was crying like a baby today.

"Former Proud Boys leader Joe Biggs sobbed as he was sentenced to 17 Years"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218236966

Fuck him he was part of plot of unAmerican shits who tried to violently overthrow the government
in order to make Donald Trump a dictator.

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
37. Reminds me of that one scene in "Shawshank Redemption"
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 01:50 PM
Aug 2023

"I wasn't there, but I heard that Byron Hadley was crying like a little schoolgirl when they took him away."

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
30. Nice! Biggs is doing "big time" in the "big house"
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 01:40 PM
Aug 2023

17 years. I hope he does all of it, and doesn't get out on parole in say.... 7 years.

Is he going to try to claim that he was 'just following orders' too, from his prison cell?

Midnight Writer

(25,145 posts)
33. "instigator and leader", "used his outsized public profile", "riling up the crowd".
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 01:43 PM
Aug 2023

That sounds like that could fit others on that day, including Biggs boss at Infowars.

I hope they all get at least the punishment this guy got.

Jones said he spent $500,000 to make Jan 6 happen. Steve Bannon was sure the hell instigating and leading. Roger Stone was with the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys in the days around Jan 6. And how about the RW Hate Talkers who deliberately lied and sent these saps to storm our Capitol?

If this guy is guilty (and he is), then these other guys should get at least the same treatment.

JohnnyRingo

(20,508 posts)
35. Well sure, when they put it like that, it sounds pretty serious. haha
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 01:46 PM
Aug 2023
"...he was a “vocal leader and influential proponent of the group’s shift toward political violence” and used his “outsized public profile” and his military experience as he “led a revolt against the government in an effort to stop the peaceful transfer of power.”

Al Gorhythm

(19 posts)
40. Just like the "Shaman"
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 01:55 PM
Aug 2023

Upon release the Qanon shaman recanted everything he displayed at the trial after his release from prison. This guy's contrition won't last long if he's pardoned by the likes of Rhonda or Vivek etc.

BunnyMcGee

(479 posts)
59. All of his military privileges should be forfeited.
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 08:06 PM
Aug 2023

As a convicted felon guilty of seditious conspiracy and terrorism enhancement against the Nation that benefits him.

Goodbye benefits, no free burial in a National Cemetary.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
60. "The finding out phase" is upon him.
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 10:28 PM
Aug 2023

Shoulda been taking your daughter to school instead of spending time online with psychos.

lostnfound

(17,407 posts)
64. But Joe, the life lessons your daughter may learn from this! And your wife..
Fri Sep 1, 2023, 06:51 AM
Sep 2023

Going to jail might be the best thing you can do for them. The daughter may ponder the meaning of violent, arrogant, extremist tendencies and choose a better man than you for a husband, so that she won’t see her own kid go through this,

Maybe your wife will find a man who isn’t so easily duped, someone who is more respectful (in action, not words) toward God and country and wife and child.

So don’t fret. No one is completely worthless, because even the worst people can serve as role models for what NOT to do.

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