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BumRushDaShow

(166,095 posts)
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 04:16 PM Sep 2023

Lab data suggests new COVID booster will protect against worrisome variant

Source: NPR

Scientists have produced the first data indicating that a variant that has raised alarm is unlikely to pose a big new COVID-19 threat. Four preliminary laboratory studies released over the weekend found that antibodies from previous infections and vaccinations appear capable of neutralizing the variant, known as BA.2.86."It is reassuring," says Dr. Dan Barouch, who conducted one of the studies at the Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston.

When it was first spotted, BA.2.86 set off alarm bells. It contains more than 30 mutations on the spike protein the virus uses to infect cells. That's a level of mutation on par with the original Omicron variant, which caused a massive surge. The concern was BA.2.86, while still rare, could sneak around the immunity people had built up and cause another huge, deadly wave.

"When something heavily mutated comes out of nowhere ... there's this risk that it's dramatically different and that it changes the nature of the pandemic," says Benjamin Murrell, who conducted one of the other studies at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden. But Murrell and Barouch's experiments, along with similar studies conducted by Yunlong Richard Cao at Peking University in China and by Dr. David Ho at Columbia University in New York, indicate BA.2.86, is unlikely to be another game-changer.

"For BA.2.86 the initial antibody neutralization results suggest that history is not repeating itself here," Murrell says. "Its degree of antibody evasion is quite similar to recently circulating variants. It seems unlikely that this will be a seismic shift for the pandemic." The studies indicate that BA.2.86 doesn't look like it's any better than any of the other variants at evading the immune system. In fact, it appears to be even be less adept at escaping from antibodies than other variants. And may also be less efficient at infecting cells.

Read more: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/09/05/1197707351/lab-data-suggests-new-covid-booster-will-protect-against-worrisome-variant

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Lab data suggests new COVID booster will protect against worrisome variant (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 OP
'less adept at escaping from antibodies', 'less efficient at infecting cells' ? speak easy Sep 2023 #1
CDC's last variant graph didn't really have it showing up yet BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #3
It could be that because of these, COVID infections due to this variant 4lbs Sep 2023 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author speak easy Sep 2023 #2
Words of covid variant wisdom: Tomconroy Sep 2023 #5
I recommend Balloux to STFU Blues Heron Sep 2023 #9
If only we could get it. AllyCat Sep 2023 #6
When is the new vaccine available? LW1977 Sep 2023 #7
I saw an article last night that it might be as soon as next week BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #8

speak easy

(12,595 posts)
1. 'less adept at escaping from antibodies', 'less efficient at infecting cells' ?
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 04:29 PM
Sep 2023

Then how is BA.2.86. outcompeting other circulating COVID variants?

BumRushDaShow

(166,095 posts)
3. CDC's last variant graph didn't really have it showing up yet
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 04:45 PM
Sep 2023


I think now that they know what to look for, they can go back and really see how much is out there.

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
4. It could be that because of these, COVID infections due to this variant
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 06:03 PM
Sep 2023

are less likely to show symptoms or take longer to show them, thus making it easier to spread from person to person because the infected will be less likely to wear a mask or avoid crowds.

If some other variant causes symptoms to be in more people sooner, then they will experience symptoms sooner and stronger than others. Then when people are infected with it, they will be taking measures against it more quickly and also distance themselves from other people more quickly.

However, this variant may take longer for those infected to show symptoms. Those symptoms, when they do show up, won't be as harsh as from other variants, and thus some may not take as vigorous a response against it. Even an extra day, means those infected will be less likely to mask up or distance themselves to combat its spread. More exposure to more people leads to more infected over time. Also, this variant will be in a person's bloodstream for a little longer due to this new stealthier ability and because people may tend to disregard it more because of it's "milder" effects.

So, this BA.2.86 variant will be more able to "slip under the radar" of most people.

Except for the upcoming vaccine boosters, which will fight against it more easily.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

AllyCat

(18,566 posts)
6. If only we could get it.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 09:43 PM
Sep 2023

“You’re not eligible”. Everyone around me coughing and positive.

BumRushDaShow

(166,095 posts)
8. I saw an article last night that it might be as soon as next week
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 03:20 AM
Sep 2023

When I did a search earlier, I saw CDC ACIP had a meeting scheduled for Sept. 12 but there was no agenda listed, so wasn't sure and FDA's VRBPAC had a next meeting Oct. 5, but it's possible they could add one in earlier (they had already approved the bivalent strains back in June).

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/covid-19-booster-shots-expected-early-week/story?id=102943545

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