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tonekat

(1,931 posts)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 03:26 PM Sep 2023

F-35 Jet Is Missing After Pilot Parachutes Free in South Carolina

Source: New York Times

Military and government authorities continued a sweeping search on Monday for an F-35 jet that disappeared after a U.S. Marine pilot used an emergency parachute to eject from it on Sunday afternoon in North Charleston, S.C.

The pilot, who has not been publicly identified, was in an F-35 from Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort. He was taken to a local medical center and his condition was stable late Sunday, Jeremy Huggins, a spokesman for Joint Base Charleston, said.

It was unclear why the pilot needed to eject. The search involved a broad range of government and military officials, including from the Marines, its Second Marine Aircraft Wing, Navy regional authorities in the Southeast, the Civil Air Patrol and the Federal Aviation Administration.

Law enforcement teams across the state were also assisting in the search.



Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/us/missing-f35-military-jet-charleston.html



Could be in a body of water. Surprised they haven't found it yet.
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F-35 Jet Is Missing After Pilot Parachutes Free in South Carolina (Original Post) tonekat Sep 2023 OP
well it sure went somewhere. would have crashed unless controlled somehow. Evolve Dammit Sep 2023 #1
Don't they almost always fly in pairs? The whole wingman thing? captain queeg Sep 2023 #2
There went many millions of taxpayer dollars! Glad the pilot is okay, though. Lonestarblue Sep 2023 #3
Even in water, there would be a debris field..... getagrip_already Sep 2023 #4
In 1970, an unmanned USAF fighter jet landed intact in a cornfield. John1956PA Sep 2023 #8
Wow, talk about a lucky landing.... getagrip_already Sep 2023 #11
Thanks for your reply. See my "topography" post just below yours. John1956PA Sep 2023 #14
Of course, the topagraphy makes a difference. The 1970 landing was in Montana. John1956PA Sep 2023 #12
Maybe it went out to sea fargone Sep 2023 #5
Wouldn't they have some tracking unit on it? kimbutgar Sep 2023 #6
Right? How is this possible? LymphocyteLover Sep 2023 #9
Any active avionics would be in pieces after a crash. Angleae Sep 2023 #10
They have commercial transponders on board, but it wasn't working getagrip_already Sep 2023 #15
Damn good stealth fighter. James48 Sep 2023 #7
this doesn't pass the smell test🤨 bringthePaine Sep 2023 #13
The wording of the official release raises the stink level.... getagrip_already Sep 2023 #16
I didnt want to be the first to say it. Why didnt he eject? Why did he leave it on autopilot? oldsoftie Sep 2023 #17
He did eject from it. Angleae Sep 2023 #18
Oh I see. Thank you. An earlier story just mentioned using an "emergency parachute" oldsoftie Sep 2023 #19
At normal flight speeds, leaving the cockpit of a fighter without ejecting is usually lethal. Angleae Sep 2023 #20
What, no "I've fallen and can't get up" alert? - Jet found, local news attached.. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2023 #21
Found it! It would be interesting tonekat Sep 2023 #22
Something catastrophic must have happened Warpy Sep 2023 #23
ANG B-25 Mitchell that crashed in the Mon Deminpenn Sep 2023 #24
They should look in trump's bathroom. C Moon Sep 2023 #25

getagrip_already

(17,009 posts)
4. Even in water, there would be a debris field.....
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 03:41 PM
Sep 2023

Stuff would be floating, especially on a lake. Fuel, oils, bits of insulation, parts that are naturally buoyant.

And on land there would be fire and a crash site. Bizarre.

John1956PA

(3,246 posts)
8. In 1970, an unmanned USAF fighter jet landed intact in a cornfield.
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 04:17 PM
Sep 2023

As is the situation in this event, the pilot had ejected and the jet flew on. The jet is now on display in a museum.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornfield_Bomber

getagrip_already

(17,009 posts)
11. Wow, talk about a lucky landing....
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 04:57 PM
Sep 2023

I guess it could have splashed down and stayed intact, or mostly so. But I have to believe fuel and other flotsam would surface.

Either that or some moonshine is gonna be pissed it crushed his still.

John1956PA

(3,246 posts)
14. Thanks for your reply. See my "topography" post just below yours.
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 04:59 PM
Sep 2023

I am thinking that, in this event, the F-35 went into the ocean.

John1956PA

(3,246 posts)
12. Of course, the topagraphy makes a difference. The 1970 landing was in Montana.
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 04:57 PM
Sep 2023

In this case, the hills and mountains in the Eastern U. S. would make such a pilotless landing unlikely.

Angleae

(4,630 posts)
10. Any active avionics would be in pieces after a crash.
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 04:35 PM
Sep 2023

And any small beacon/gps tracking pinger would be self-defeating (it is a "stealth" fighter after all, you really don't want them broadcasting constantly)

getagrip_already

(17,009 posts)
15. They have commercial transponders on board, but it wasn't working
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 05:00 PM
Sep 2023

One of the stories mentioned it but didn't give a reason.

All military aircraft operating in US airspace have them, but they can be turned off for obvious reasons. They aren't supposed to be.

James48

(4,570 posts)
7. Damn good stealth fighter.
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 04:05 PM
Sep 2023

Can’t find it anywhere.

Kudos to Lockheed Martin for the stealth ability.

getagrip_already

(17,009 posts)
16. The wording of the official release raises the stink level....
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 05:03 PM
Sep 2023

They used the word "mishap", not "malfunction".

That is semantically closer to mistake than mechanical failure.

Maybe even malfeasance, as in some form of road rage?

oldsoftie

(13,460 posts)
17. I didnt want to be the first to say it. Why didnt he eject? Why did he leave it on autopilot?
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 05:22 PM
Sep 2023

If it was flying why jot try to land it? Why no explanation like we lost ALWAYS get?

oldsoftie

(13,460 posts)
19. Oh I see. Thank you. An earlier story just mentioned using an "emergency parachute"
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 06:29 PM
Sep 2023

Which made me think it WASNT an ejection since it didnt use there tern. I dont even know if NOT using the ejection system but still getting out is a possibility.

Angleae

(4,630 posts)
20. At normal flight speeds, leaving the cockpit of a fighter without ejecting is usually lethal.
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 06:34 PM
Sep 2023

Going from 0 knot wind speed to 300 knots in an instance with nothing to brace you is very bad. Hitting the tail at 300 knots is worse.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,586 posts)
21. What, no "I've fallen and can't get up" alert? - Jet found, local news attached..
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 10:06 PM
Sep 2023
Missing no more: Marine fighter jet found in rural SC
The Post and Courier

Charleston, S.C.
By Glenn Smith, Tyler Fedor, Thad Moore, John Ramsey and Ali Rockett
Sep 18, 2023 Updated 5 hrs ago

(snips)
The hunt for a missing Marine Corps fighter jet ended with wreckage found in a rural expanse of farmland and swamp on Sept. 18 after a massive search across South Carolina for the elusive $90 million plane.
--
Air Force Chief Master Sgt. Walter Shutler told The Post and Courier just after 6 p.m. that authorities had located the wreckage. “It will take days to get this thing dug up,” Shutler, the incident commander, said.

The unmanned plane was found more than 63 miles from the North Charleston backyard where the pilot landed more than 24 hours earlier.

Flying in autopilot mode with a faulty transponder, the jet then blasted off into the unknown with little indication as to when its fuel would run out or where the expensive piece of military hardware would come down.
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A second aircraft on the mission returned to Joint Base Charleston without incident.

Charleston International Airport, which shares runways with Joint Base Charleston, was notified by the military of the mishap, but no flights were impacted, spokesman Spencer

It reads like they'll be digging this thing out of a swamp.


KY........

tonekat

(1,931 posts)
22. Found it! It would be interesting
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 11:28 PM
Sep 2023

to see its heading. It is so fortunate that it landed in an unpopulated area, can you imagine if it came down in the middle of a city?

Warpy

(112,992 posts)
23. Something catastrophic must have happened
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 11:44 PM
Sep 2023

involving the autopilot. I hope they can put enough of it together to figure out how the transponder was cut and just what the autopilot was up to when the pilot bailed. It sounds like he had no hope of turning it out to sea.

Deminpenn

(15,945 posts)
24. ANG B-25 Mitchell that crashed in the Mon
Tue Sep 19, 2023, 03:25 PM
Sep 2023

River in Pittsburgh has never been found despite eyewitnesses seeing it go down and 4 of the 6 crew members surviving.

https://blueskypit.com/2021/02/01/65-years-later-ghost-bomber-remains-unsolved-mystery/

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