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BumRushDaShow

(165,388 posts)
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 05:18 PM Oct 2023

Senior House Republican says GOP members ready to block Jordan

Source: CNN Politics

Updated 11:54 AM EDT, Sun October 15, 2023


CNN — A number of House Republicans are in talks to block Rep. Jim Jordan’s path to the speakership as the Ohio Republican tries to force a floor vote on Tuesday, according to multiple GOP sources.

One senior Republican House member who is part of the opposition to Jordan told CNN that there he believes there are roughly 40 “no” votes, and that he has personally spoken to 20 members who are willing to go to the floor and block Jordan’s path if the Ohio Republican forces a roll-call vote on Tuesday.

“The approximately 20 I’ve talked to know we must be prepared,” the member said. “We cannot let the small group dictate to the whole group. They want a minority of the majority to dictate and as a red-blooded American I refuse to be a victim.”

But another GOP source familiar with the matter said that Jordan has had positive conversations with members and believes by Tuesday evening he will be elected speaker of the House. The House is expected to hold a vote for the next speaker on Tuesday at noon, according to an email from House Minority Whip Katherine Clark obtained by CNN. The GOP source said that Jordan may decide to go to multiple ballots on the floor if necessary. Republicans are expected to meet behind closed doors Monday evening.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/15/politics/jim-jordan-house-republicans-speaker/index.html

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Senior House Republican says GOP members ready to block Jordan (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 OP
Hope it's true. sinkingfeeling Oct 2023 #1
My first thought as well. nt pazzyanne Oct 2023 #7
He is an insurrectionist, coup plotter and participant. Fuck him all ways possible. nt Evolve Dammit Oct 2023 #2
'multiple ballots' - That sounds familiar keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #3
Hope that Rebl2 Oct 2023 #4
Hope The Dems Don't Make A Deal T_A Oct 2023 #5
Any deal democrats make would likely give them some decent power ColinC Oct 2023 #27
Democrats shouldn't negotiate with Extremists. harun Oct 2023 #39
So you are saying that if the opportunity presents itself to keep extremists out of power ColinC Oct 2023 #43
We have no house speaker, hence no one is in power. harun Oct 2023 #44
Republicans are in power ColinC Oct 2023 #46
Any deal is writ on water ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #40
Wonder how the 2nd installment of the Republican House Speaker show will go? OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2023 #6
"We cannot let the small group dictate to the whole group." Talitha Oct 2023 #8
My thought when I read that line was slightlv Oct 2023 #25
The only republican plan... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #9
Yup. The rest of this is just games and chuckles to them. erronis Oct 2023 #14
Another repugnant speaker of the house buried in a wrestler sex scandal. Fuck all the way off Gym. Comfortably_Numb Oct 2023 #10
At least that scandal is going national now. Sports Illustrated had a detailed article this week. TheRickles Oct 2023 #12
It has to Rickles. There has to be a moment where this despicable pig is held to account. Comfortably_Numb Oct 2023 #13
At the website for Clooney's production co ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #41
Great article. Someone needs to pass it on to Nancy Mace so liberalla Oct 2023 #35
You're welcome. Great idea to contact her directly. Here's the link to her office (below): TheRickles Oct 2023 #37
I tried the same tactic with Rep. Mike Turner, an R who has talked about reaching out to Dems. TheRickles Oct 2023 #38
The sooner he... 2naSalit Oct 2023 #11
Jordan Is The Worst CitizenZero Oct 2023 #15
Make a deal with a half-dozen moderate Repukes and blam! Speaker Hakeem Jefferies 4lbs Oct 2023 #16
There is no way Republicans could vote for a Democrat. But maybe a "moderate" Republican. SunSeeker Oct 2023 #22
I Agree CitizenZero Oct 2023 #33
You cannot negotiate with shameless liars and traitors ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #42
THAT would be worth opening the tab on my last can of Guinness to! ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2023 #28
So which of their sources is to be believed? I'm confused. BlueKota Oct 2023 #17
These are the same people BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 #19
They are such clowns BlueKota Oct 2023 #21
He might be trying to do what McCarthy did. 4lbs Oct 2023 #26
I cannot imagine a worse Speaker than Jordan. Lonestarblue Oct 2023 #18
Are these senior house republicans having a enough of the clown show ? republianmushroom Oct 2023 #20
Who's minding the store? William769 Oct 2023 #23
Good, GOP. Don't let the Israel crisis force you to accept extremist demands. Beartracks Oct 2023 #24
Stand strong. Don't blink. Show Ted Cruz what that means. czarjak Oct 2023 #29
Actually GymBo would just be another in a long line of NoMoreRepugs Oct 2023 #30
True That. BlueIdaho Oct 2023 #32
I hope they succeed. We need to find a bipartisan choice for Speaker of the House. The Republicans Martin68 Oct 2023 #31
"I refuse to be a victim." Bayard Oct 2023 #34
Jordan belongs in prison, not leading Congress! Emile Oct 2023 #36
I don't want to get my hopes up. Mz Pip Oct 2023 #45
McCarthy was not as extreme (although he attempted to "talk it" ) BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 #47
Certainly hope so. The idiot candidates the GOP put up are FUBAR onetexan Oct 2023 #48

T_A

(604 posts)
5. Hope The Dems Don't Make A Deal
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 05:36 PM
Oct 2023

to keep McHenry in power. I'd rather see the Repubs get desperate and have to make a deal with Jeffries.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
27. Any deal democrats make would likely give them some decent power
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 08:03 PM
Oct 2023

Which is why I doubt there will be any deal made

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
43. So you are saying that if the opportunity presents itself to keep extremists out of power
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 10:53 AM
Oct 2023

That Democrats should simply let the extremists stay in power?

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
40. Any deal is writ on water
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:42 AM
Oct 2023

Democrats can't trust any promises from a traitor thug. They are all liars, and never keep their word to Democrats.

The only answer to a traitor thug proffer of a deal needs to be this:

OAITW r.2.0

(31,429 posts)
6. Wonder how the 2nd installment of the Republican House Speaker show will go?
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 05:37 PM
Oct 2023

"We're on ballot # 65, as fights are now breaking out amongst the Republican caucus. MTG and Boebert provided the fiercest brawl of this round."

Talitha

(7,670 posts)
8. "We cannot let the small group dictate to the whole group."
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 05:59 PM
Oct 2023
Good, they're finally saying it out loud!

Only way to beat the bullies is to stand up to them.

slightlv

(7,430 posts)
25. My thought when I read that line was
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 07:46 PM
Oct 2023

"Welcome to MY world!" Seems like even when they're in the Minority, they rule FROM the Minority! And I'm damned tired of it! Ya think they might take that feeling they're feeling and extrapolate to others? Nah.... never happen. They don't know the meaning of the word "empathy," and whatever they can glean from it, they're diametrically opposed to it.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
9. The only republican plan...
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 05:59 PM
Oct 2023

...is to keep our nation's government inoperable for as long as possible, at least until November 2024.

Comfortably_Numb

(4,188 posts)
10. Another repugnant speaker of the house buried in a wrestler sex scandal. Fuck all the way off Gym.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 06:24 PM
Oct 2023

Comfortably_Numb

(4,188 posts)
13. It has to Rickles. There has to be a moment where this despicable pig is held to account.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 06:31 PM
Oct 2023

I hope that the Clooney documentary will bury the jackoff for good.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
41. At the website for Clooney's production co
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:45 AM
Oct 2023

I didn't even see that documentary listed in their works in any stage of production. That was about 6 months ago.

Sounds like an abandoned project to me.

liberalla

(10,789 posts)
35. Great article. Someone needs to pass it on to Nancy Mace so
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 01:07 AM
Oct 2023

she can familiarize herself with Jordan's history of protecting a sexual predator and abuser (and so she can't play dumb the next time she's asked about it).

Thanks for that link!

TheRickles

(3,140 posts)
37. You're welcome. Great idea to contact her directly. Here's the link to her office (below):
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:26 AM
Oct 2023
https://mace.house.gov/how-are-we-doing|

Actually, it turns out that this link only sends your contact info to her office. I'm assuming they'll now email me to find out what was on my mind. The site also gives phone #'s for her offices in DC and SC, for more direct messaging.

And Sports Illustrated is a very mainstream magazine that I'm guessing is read by many MAGAs because it covers the whole range of sports (including NFL and NASCAR, to invoke two stereotypes). So it may end up presenting new info to a whole lot of people.

TheRickles

(3,140 posts)
38. I tried the same tactic with Rep. Mike Turner, an R who has talked about reaching out to Dems.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 08:05 AM
Oct 2023

That story is here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143145254|

But his site only accepts emails from people who live in his district.

2naSalit

(99,832 posts)
11. The sooner he...
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 06:27 PM
Oct 2023

Or anyone of them make it to a floor vote, the sooner the rest of the representatives can vote in Jeffries and get it over with.

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
15. Jordan Is The Worst
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 06:48 PM
Oct 2023

And that is saying something since most Republicans are terrible. Jordan should not be anywhere near the Speakership.

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
16. Make a deal with a half-dozen moderate Repukes and blam! Speaker Hakeem Jefferies
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 07:07 PM
Oct 2023

I will laugh uncontrollably if that happens.

SunSeeker

(57,470 posts)
22. There is no way Republicans could vote for a Democrat. But maybe a "moderate" Republican.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 07:27 PM
Oct 2023

Last edited Sun Oct 15, 2023, 09:21 PM - Edit history (1)

The deal House Dems are pursuing is getting a "Team Normal" Republican nominated, along with certain Legislative concessions from that Speaker, like having certain pieces of legislation brought to the House floor, and getting the budget passed. Enough Democrats may then vote for that Republican under those circumstances.

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
33. I Agree
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 09:12 PM
Oct 2023

Even Moderate Republicans would not vote for Jefferies but Dems *might* vote for a moderate Republican along with some concessions. I think that we should try to do this. It would be good for the country to support more moderate Republicans and reduce the influence of the MAGAs. We need sane bipartisanship. Extremists like Jim Jordan are an awful, awful possibility.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
42. You cannot negotiate with shameless liars and traitors
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:48 AM
Oct 2023

I'd think people would have learned by now that it's useless to negotiate with traitor thugs. They never keep their word because they have no integrity and no remorse at all about that.

All of their "promises" are writ on water.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
28. THAT would be worth opening the tab on my last can of Guinness to!
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 08:07 PM
Oct 2023

Now do I drink it cold or let it get to room temperature?

BlueKota

(5,034 posts)
17. So which of their sources is to be believed? I'm confused.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 07:14 PM
Oct 2023

Did he have positive conversations with the twenty who want to block him? I read somewhere he can only afford to loose 4 Republican votes. So if those 20 aren't the ones he's talked to, he won't have the votes the other source said Jordan thinks he has to become speaker.

BumRushDaShow

(165,388 posts)
19. These are the same people
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 07:20 PM
Oct 2023

who blame Biden for the GOP not being able to install a Speaker with only their votes... and they are in the majority.

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
26. He might be trying to do what McCarthy did.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 07:48 PM
Oct 2023

He'll have to be careful (but then, when was he ever careful?) or else it will backfire on him.

I'm waiting to see if that happens.





Lonestarblue

(13,207 posts)
18. I cannot imagine a worse Speaker than Jordan.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 07:15 PM
Oct 2023

He is anti anything that makes sense, and his screaming style is irritating beyond belief.

Beartracks

(14,337 posts)
24. Good, GOP. Don't let the Israel crisis force you to accept extremist demands.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 07:35 PM
Oct 2023

In other words: don't give in to terrorists.

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NoMoreRepugs

(11,786 posts)
30. Actually GymBo would just be another in a long line of
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 08:29 PM
Oct 2023

ShitForBrains Republican House Speakers.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
32. True That.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 08:49 PM
Oct 2023

How far back do you have to go to find a Republican House Speaker who actually completed their service without being turfed out of office?

Martin68

(26,991 posts)
31. I hope they succeed. We need to find a bipartisan choice for Speaker of the House. The Republicans
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 08:32 PM
Oct 2023

Have utterly failed to do their duty.

Bayard

(28,447 posts)
34. "I refuse to be a victim."
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 12:08 AM
Oct 2023

Seriously? Where did the spine transplants come from?

I'll believe it when I see any of these people going public.

Mz Pip

(28,345 posts)
45. I don't want to get my hopes up.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 12:10 PM
Oct 2023

It took 15 votes to get McCarthy approved. Slowly but surely the votes perled away from no to yes.

Unfortunately, that’s what I expect to happen here.

The class bully should not be awarded Prom King.

BumRushDaShow

(165,388 posts)
47. McCarthy was not as extreme (although he attempted to "talk it" )
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 06:20 PM
Oct 2023

as Gymsuit. Even Scalise, as horrid as he is, wasn't the showboat circus-clown reject type like Gymsuit.

I would not be surprised if they eventually go ahead and expand McHenry's role for "administrative purposes" for a limited time (perhaps through the budget/appropriations process) and then come up with a few changes to the Rules that put the chamber into this position in the first place.

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